More like 30/70 I think...but I don't think that's what the avg American gives a shit about. It's about REAL JOBS with REAL PAY. The republican trickle down philosophy is a complete failure...well for all but top 5-10%.
Truth is that "Something" is going to have to drastically change to lift up and employ a HUGE portion of this country. I mean an industry that can accommodate many of the uneducated, yet willing ready and able to work and learn, and one that has room for growth. The MFG sector used to be it. That's LONG gone now and nothing has taken it's place. The distance between the haves and have nots is becoming larger and larger. Trickle down BS economics doesn't work and won't fix it. Offering tax cuts isn't going to do shit. A HUGE FUCKING PORTION of the country is anything BUT overtaxed. They are UNDER FUCKING PAID and have been so for 30+ years. ALL the profits have gone to the top.
Sooner or later the so-called leaders in this country have to face reality that to be a consumption based economy, you need consumption. What a concept hey? The working class doesn't have ANYWHERE NEAR the money they need to consume enough to support and build a growing economy. The mega rich have all the disposable income. Civil unrest? That's just beginning here in America.
It's gonna get a LOT WORSE before it ever gets better.
If you ask people why they are a dem or why they are a republican.....many answer because of a particular social issue ....not economic... people will vote for someone if they feel they are aligned with a candidate on those type of issues. More personality stuff than hardcore economic issues.
@WVJOE...You probably won't agree with this post..
I don't know why they ran with "trickle down economics", that sounds like someone is pissing on you and you should enjoy it because urine water is better than dying of thirst.
I do believe a rising tide lifts all boats though. That is what should be said and what should be the goal.
Most income inequality just a function of big biz/big gov't crony capitalism. If we had a real competitive free market it wouldn't be an issue.
I don't know why they ran with "trickle down economics", that sounds like someone is pissing on you and you should enjoy it because urine water is better than dying of thirst.
I do believe a rising tide lifts all boats though. That is what should be said and what should be the goal.
Most income inequality just a function of big biz/big gov't crony capitalism. If we had a real competitive free market it wouldn't be an issue.
That is probably pretty close to the truth. But the "idea" of a real competitive free market is a complete pipe dream. Will NEVER happen. Greed is too ingrained into human nature.
Except for hard right loonies, most Americans absolutely believe that those in Govt are bought and paid for by big biz. They USED TO BE bought by BOTH labor and biz. And the country worked better economically in that more of the profits were earned by both labor and biz. It's not that way today and hasn't been for 30+ years. It's not ideaology. It's simple math. All the profits have gone to the shareholders and the employees (labor) has been given scraps and told to be thankful they have a job. Cost of living is all they've gotten.
It's a nice theory about the "competitive free market". Kind of pie in the sky though because corruption and greed will and often do overcome "market" forces.
IMO the only way things will become more balanced again is if Labor gets a place back at the table. The Dems abandoned Labor back in the late 70's. It's all lip service. Both parties are bought and paid for by the corp. scum. Until that changes, nothing will really change.
Sheriff Anarchist...You wouldn't know a real American if they crawled inside your head and starting screaming. You are clueless. You don't live a normal life. More likely than not, you don't even live in America. Yet you act like you're a fucking genius and that if we just had the smallest of small govt everything would take care of itself. Yeah we did that in America. IT DOESN'T WORK. Common people had to go through hell and put their lives on the line to get any "rights" as employees. You have no understanding of that. You think the "market" is God. It's not. I'm willing to bet you don't even understand the fucking reality that GOVT creates markets.
Crawl back into your shithole and pretend you're a patriot. You're a whack job and always will be.
Govt creates markets and jobs! - oh god, more Pavian economics (wealth falling from the sky!) face)(*^%
You and the other ignoramuses who keep voting for different strains of the SAME FAILED IDEOLOGY need to go through a lot of pain before you finally realize that...
There's no such thing as a free lunch
Seems to have some supporters on this board. I hate breaking down political races in simplistic cookie cutter ways but..
She is a woman and last I checked they do make up a majority of the population. I don't expect her to win but I think she will probably be in that core 4 or 5 candidates that are around for awhile. Tons of women out there that probably want a women prez but just don't want it being someone like Hilary or a dem that they oppose on every issue.
If the federal government was far less powerful and let the states mostly dictate policy then they would be forced to compete with one another. Tough to be the anti-labor state and tough to be the anti-business state. You would likely get the best of both worlds and any state that lacked at either would fall behind economically. You would have states great for education, states great for business, states great for workers and there would be more choice across the board. Eventually like I said, a rising tide would lift all boats through competition and innovation.
There are holes to poke in this strategy, but it is far more efficient than a federal government dictating policy on healthcare, education, energy, technology, etc.
Yeah not sure if she can raise the money but the longer you stay in it, the more $ you can attract if they see you as viable (see Obama v Hilary)
A lot of money is just searching for a winner with no real loyalty.
I think she could be a good VP but I mostly think people overrate VP picks in general and they have a minimal impact on who wins the election. My guess is Kasich as the cheap "win Ohio" play would have a better chance to be VP than her.
I didn't say created Jobs you arrogant piece of dung! I said creates markets. YES, govt of some sort has ALWAYS been needed to create and maintain "free markets". Doesn't matter if the Govt is/was good or bad. It was and is still needed. Your idolized "free market" with all it's buyers and sellers competing with each other WOULD NOT EXIST without intensive government support and regulation. Do you think that's an "American" thing dumbfuck?
Oh geez...let's see....how about the fucking Chinese, Babylonians, and Egyptians in like 2000 B.C. No they didn't ESTABLISH and CREATE Marketplaces did they? No they also didn't build roads and canals and provide infrastructure did they? No Markets just fucking "appear" out of nowhere because that's how we all roll, right Sheriff Moron? Yeah you and all the dumbass right wing fucktards!!! LMFAO
Hey I know...Here's the best example yet....How about when dumb Motherfucking NeoCon Donald Rumsfeld thought all those free markets were going to "magically" appear in Iraq after we invaded there. How'd that work out? Yeah they've been a huge success hey?
You are JUST LIKE HIM...."Magic Market Dust" is just gonna float down and fix everything as soon as we get rid of Govt...LMFAO @ you COMPLETE IDIOTS!!!!
Here...I'll take 30 seconds to educate you...
IN THE REAL WORLD, not that imaginary place you reside, the GOVERNMENT creates and enforces titles to property among other things. What a concept hey? After all how does one trade (buy and sell) the right to something if he doesn't own it? How long has that been happening? I don't know...how about govt has been doing that since early civilization...No not too long...
hno:Oh and let's not forget that unlike that imaginary place in your head, here in the REAL WORLD, govt creates and maintains INFRASTRUCTURE. Oh yeah..it happens BEFORE there is a market. hey how was Wall Street doing after Hurricane Sandy? They didn't really "need" the govt to get the electricity back up and running did they? Da da da...Yeah I know...Wealth falling from the sky it was...LMFAO
"The Market" does NOT operate on it's own you dumb fucking shithead. NEVER HAS and NEVER WILL. It is by it's VERY NATURE, DEPENDENT on GOVT to create the infrastructure to help it start and to help maintain it, among other things. When scumbag corps payoff Govt and twist all the rules governing the market to THEIR Favor, well then we the people lose while the needs of the few dominate and overtake ALL. THAT is what is wrong with America today.
The failed ideology belongs to people like YOU who think Govt on it's own is the problem. You're not fucking intelligent enough to take the next step and see THE REAL PROBLEM....The problem isn't the "idea" of Govt. The problem is the scumbags who are CONTROLLING GOVT. The Govt has become nothing but puppets. Dumbfucks like you keep thinking the puppet is the problem. Walk around back dumbass and you'll see the Corporate Scumbags pulling all the strings.
So concludes your lesson for today. Maybe tomorrow you'll be worthy of another lesson.
