Trading up to the second round of the NFL draft and using two picks to take Florida State kicker --Bucs roll dice with Robert Aguayo pick

[HacheMan]

I think most people, even Florida fans would agree the kid is a good kicker. But the fact is the difference between him and any number of kickers in the nfl is insanely small, if he is even better at all, and thats why you dont use a 2nd round pick on him.

And again, Tampa has more holes then swiss cheese. That defense last year was just fucking putrid. You know who the happiest people in the world that the bucs used a 2nd round pick on a kicker are? the 7-9 shity Defensive starters on the bucs team. Its almost a certainty that any number of guys taken in round 2-3 would be immediate starters on tampa's team but they said fuck it, you know what we really need, a kicker. That will put us over the top. jesus chrst, i cant take this franchise anymore.

Man I hear ya & you are right about everything above.

I think it's a proven fact that Bucs fans have shorter life spans than other sports fans ha!

Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, Alstott, Dunn, Keyshawn, Simeon Rice all spoiled us for a while...

 

[EasyMoney]

Man I hear ya & you are right about everything above.

I think it's a proven fact that Bucs fans have shorter life spans than other sports fans ha!

Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, Alstott, Dunn, Keyshawn, Simeon Rice all spoiled us for a while...

They very very rarely make a draft pick I really like for the last several years. Its crazy. I'm not even that in love with their first pick of Hargreaves. I get it, its an area of need but I'm just not sold that he is going to be all that great. Guy referred to himself as the best player in the world at one point. Before their bowl game they asked him what he thought of the Michigan defense and Jabril Peppers and he said that they have 11 Peppers on their defense. And then he goes out and precedes to get torched by an average Michigan WR in Chesson several times during the game and lose by like 100. There is a difference between confident and cocky. I will say this, I did like the pick of Spence in the 2nd round. Thats a guy with top 15 pick talent that fell due to some drug problems. Hopefully those are behind him.

 

[HacheMan]

They very very rarely make a draft pick I really like for the last several years. Its crazy. I'm not even that in love with their first pick of Hargreaves. I get it, its an area of need but I'm just not sold that he is going to be all that great. Guy referred to himself as the best player in the world at one point. Before their bowl game they asked him what he thought of the Michigan defense and Jabril Peppers and he said that they have 11 Peppers on their defense. And then he goes out and precedes to get torched by an average Michigan WR in Chesson several times during the game and lose by like 100. There is a difference between confident and cocky. I will say this, I did like the pick of Spence in the 2nd round. Thats a guy with top 15 pick talent that fell due to some drug problems. Hopefully those are behind him.

Agree on Hargreaves.....Most teams has him much lower.

This team hasn't had an eye for talent since Rich McKay (And Dungy) left...

 

[EasyMoney]

Agree on Hargreaves.....Most teams has him much lower.

This team hasn't had an eye for talent since Rich McKay (And Dungy) left...

Bingo.

personally I would've prefered after Ramsey was gone to just go ahead and taken Tunsil instead of Hargreaves. Maybe Hargreaves looked so good partly cause QB play in the SEC is horrid.