To Stop Iran’s Bomb, Bomb Iran

[superbeets]

Of course, being the lying, War Mongering sicko Casper is, he fails to post the article Attached to this picture from 2010, the retaliation of Iran and the costs to Israel.

Scenarios for an Israeli attack in Iran: view from Tehran​

This week, news website Asr-e Iran has published a commentary article by commentator Seyyed Ziaoldin Ehtesham, discussing the various possible scenarios following an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. The article first presented an optimal scenario for Israel: Israeli fighter planes arrive from Jordan, northern Saudi Arabia, and southern Iraq, and attack four targets simultaneously: the uranium enrichment facility in Natanz, the uranium enrichment facility near the city of Qom, the heavy water reactor in Arak, and the uranium conversion facility in Esfahan. The four sites are destroyed in several minutes, the fighter planes safely return to base, and the pilots receive a hero’s welcome back home. The Iranian government holds an emergency meeting, condemning the Israeli attack as a blatant violation of international law. The Iranian representative to the UN also releases a strong-worded announcement against Israel. Anti-Israeli protests are held in Iran, with the protestors chanting “death to Israel”. Several countries in the world support the Israeli attack, calling it a necessary act of self-defense. Other countries condemn the attack, while still others remain silent. After several days of extensive media coverage of the destruction of Iran’s nuclear facilities by Israel, the situation settles down and things go back to normal.
However, it is the commentator’s view that this scenario is far from what would actually happen. Iran of 2010 is not Iraq of 1981, and the consequences of the Israeli attack on the nuclear reactor in Iraq cannot be compared to those of an Israeli attack in Iran. Iraq was busy fighting Iran and had no desire to confront Israel. Iran, however, is focusing all of its military and defensive plans on the threat posed by Israel, it has the political willpower and national ability to launch a military response to any Israeli attack, and it will never settle for a diplomatic response to a military attack by Israel.

The Iranian response will be reflected in asymmetrical warfare. Israel’s nuclear facilities may be the first victim of an Israeli attack on Iran. Even if Israel believes it has the ability to protect its nuclear facilities, there is nothing it can do against various kinds of rockets coming in from various directions. Iran is likely to surprise Israel, just as Hezbollah surprised it in the “second Lebanon war”.

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Even if Israeli fighter planes reach Iran, they will face a difficult, complicated mission. First, Iran’s air defense system will put the Israeli pilots face-to-face with a new and unfamiliar reality. Second, the nuclear facilities are hidden in various sites across Iran, some of them deep underground, and they are defended by missiles and anti-aircraft defense systems. Even if some of the planes made their way back, there is no guarantee that they would be able to return to Israel. There is no question that the Iranian missiles will hit Israel’s air force bases even before the planes return to Israel, and the pilots may not be able to contact their control towers, which would be destroyed minutes after an Israeli attack.
According to the commentator, news agencies in the world will report simultaneously on the Israeli attack in Iran and the Iranian counter-attack that will follow immediately. After the Iranian response, Israel will have two choices: first, remaining silent over the strong Iranian response and accepting the restoration of the nuclear facilities and the continuation of Iran’s nuclear activity, which would mean a strategic defeat for Israel. Second, continuing the attacks on Iran, which would mean broadening the conflict with it. A war between the two countries would result in widespread destruction in Iran; however, such a war would spell the end of Israel. Unlike the Israelis, who would never be able to cope with sustained warfare, the Iranians lived through an eight-year war against Iraq. A war like that would set Israeli cities ablaze and erase all that Israel has created in the past six decades to attract Jews from all over the world. The commentator concluded by saying that the first bomb Israel were to drop on Iran would begin a process of changing the political map of the Middle East, sparking a fire in the region that would affect the whole world—directly or not (Asr-e Iran, June 14).

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Hello its 2015 now and Israel has the Iron Dome.

 

[ScottL]

U.S. Poll: 63 Percent Say Iran Not Serious about Addressing Concerns over Nuclear Program (Pew Research Center)

63% of Americans who have heard about the nuclear talks say Iranian leaders are not serious "about addressing international concerns about their country's nuclear enrichment program," according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted March 25-29.

If a nuclear agreement is reached, 62% want Congress to have final authority over the deal.

In addition, 65% say they sympathize with Israel in its dispute with the Palestinians.

 

[ScottL]

35-38% of Americans are scary stupid.

 

[superbeets]

Netanyahu speaks at 20th Knesset session

Talking about the potential Iran deal.


We will not bury our heads in the sand

This potential Iran deal is the greatest threat to our future

The breakout clause means Iran could achieve the nuclear bomb in less than a year if they wanted to




Concerned about the development of advanced centrifuges.

 

[ScottL]

Unprecedented Influx of Advanced Weapons from Iran to Syria and Lebanon - Yaakov Lappin (Jerusalem Post)
Advanced weaponry, much of it supplied by Iran, is flowing into Syria and Lebanon, a senior Israel Navy source warned on Sunday.
"Such weapons pose a challenge to all Western navies in the area."
The source described ten different kinds of missiles, including the 300-km.-range Yakhont guided antiship missile.
He warned that the missile can be used to attack targets on land deep inside the country. "They can fire it at military headquarters in Tel Aviv," he said.

 

[ScottL]

The Impact of Iran Sanctions Relief - Bobby Ghosh (Quartz-Defense One)

There is little to suggest that the Iranian regime intends to spend the resulting windfall from sanctions relief on making life better for ordinary citizens.
It is a safe bet that those closest to the regime, like the Revolutionary Guard, will take the largest share of any windfall.

A great deal of the fresh money will also go to expanding Iran's ambitions in its neighborhood. Proxy groups like Lebanon's Hizbullah, Gaza's Hamas and Yemen's Houthis will all receive larger injections of money and weapons with which to further destabilize their countries.

Expect more Iranian money to flow to Syria's Bashar Assad and into Afghanistan and Pakistan, where Shia minorities face Sunni persecution.
If there's money left over, some of it will go to buying the Revolutionary Guards a new arsenal of conventional weapons.

 

[superbeets]

Iran is placing guided warheads on its rockets and smuggling them to Hezbollah in Lebanon, a senior Defense Ministry official involved in preparing Israeli air defenses said Tuesday.

Speaking at the Israel Air and Missile Defense Conference in Herzliya, organized by the iHLS defense website and the Israel Missile Defense Association, Col. Aviram Hasson said Iran is converting Zilzal unguided rockets into accurate, guided M-600 projectiles by upgrading their warheads.

Hasson, who is in charge of upper tier missile defenses in the Defense Ministry's HOMA, which is a part of the Defense Ministry's Administration for the Development of Weapons and Technological Infrastructure, described Iran as a "train engine that is not stopping for a moment. It is manufacturing new and advanced ballistic missiles, and cruise missiles. It is turning unguided rockets that had an accuracy range of kilometers into weapons that are accurate to within meters."

Hezbollah, he continued, "is getting a lot of accurate weapons from Iran. It is in a very different place compared to the Second Lebanon War in 2006."

For Israel, the "ultimate defense is a combination of counter-attack, active defenses, and passive defense [civilian compliance with Home Front Command safety instructions]," Hasson argued.

Riki Ellison, founder and chairman of the US Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance, also spoke to the conference. The Alliance is a non-profit organization advocating for the deployment and development of missile defenses.

Ellison said the US always keeps at least one war ship in the Mediterranean with an Aegis naval missile defense system to ensure that Israel is protected against long-range Iranian ballistic missiles. "It can stand off the coast and shoot long-shots coming in from Iran," Ellison said.

The US is keen to see Israel complete its multi-layered blanket of missile defenses, which would enable it to defend against Iranian missiles without the Aegis, freeing up the US Navy's ships to be deployed elsewhere, he added. Ellison told the delegates that the US remains firmly committed to Israel's security irrespective of recent disagreements between President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

He added that the US could deploy its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) batteries "if necessary to come into Israel to support your country's defense."

The US is "fully supportive of Israel getting full capable system Arrow 3 and David's Sling defense systems," Ellison said.

 

[ScottL]

Iran's Supreme Leader Holds Key to Nuclear Deal - Jay Solomon and Laurence Norman
U.S. and European officials said nuclear negotiations were imperiled by deep uncertainty over whether Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei would sign off on the necessary concessions for a deal. All parties to the talks have set March 31 as the date for concluding a framework agreement that would outline all the main elements of a deal constraining Iran's nuclear program in exchange for lifting international sanctions. Technical discussions on a final, comprehensive agreement will continue through June.

But Western officials said there are signs Khamenei hasn't empowered his negotiators to give ground on the remaining sticking points. These include the pace at which UN sanctions on Iran would be removed, the scope of Tehran's future nuclear work, and the ability of international inspectors to access the country's nuclear and military sites.

In speeches in recent days, Khamenei has fixated on the demand that UN sanctions be removed at the beginning of any agreement. Earlier this month, Khamenei said: "Removal of sanctions will happen immediately when the deal is reached...otherwise, we will not agree." (Wall Street Journal)

 

[ScottL]

Iran Seeks Nuclear Deal But Not Normal Ties with "Great Satan" - Parisa Hafezi
Iran is not expected to normalize relations with the U.S. even if Tehran reaches agreement with world powers on its nuclear program. An Iranian official said that Khamenei "will not agree with normalizing ties with America....You cannot erase decades of hostility with a deal....Ties with America is still a taboo in Iran." Khamenei has continued to give speeches larded with denunciations of "the Great Satan." Anti-American sentiment has always been central to Iran's Islamic revolution.

"As long as Khamenei remains Supreme Leader, the chances of normalizing U.S.-Iran relations are very low. Rapprochement with the U.S. arguably poses a greater existential threat to Khamenei than continued conflict," said Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington. (Reuters)

 

[ScottL]

Bipartisan Letter to Obama: Stop Threatening Israel - Jennifer Rubin (Washington Post)

 

[duckhunter]

Don't know why in the hell everyone is worried about "what the Saudis plan to do". They are the biggest funders and supporters of terrorism. Isn't it ironic? Or do we just bat an eye because of the oil money involved. They become our best friend when certain interests are there...........

 

[superbeets]

The Saudi stand up to Iran, not like the cowardly apologist and appeaser.

 

[duckhunter]

The Saudi stand up to Iran, not like the cowardly apologist and appeaser.

They still aren't much better..........Saudi Arabia has the worst human rights policies in the world, with absolutely no rights for women........who are not allowed to drive or even go to school, yet we "fight for democracy" everywhere else while turning a blind eye when it benefits us.........hypocracy at it's best.

 

[ScottL]

SA is no longer fomenting terrorism outside its borders. Nor is it trying to create an empire in the Middle East. Iran does, and is.

 

[SheriffJoe]

It's cute how libtards make moral judgements against American foreign policy in an area of the world that is beyond FUBARED. Whether it's Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria or coming war against Iran. FDR aligned himself with the Soviets to defeat the scourge of Nazism.

Obviously if we had the technological means, we'd break off that chunk of the world and send it into outer space because as William Gladstone once said, so long as the Koran exists there will be no peace in the world. And that's the bottom line.

Not America's fault. Not Israel's fault.

 

[The Guesser]

The Saudi stand up to Iran, not like the cowardly apologist and appeaser.

So did Iraq, and they were FAR better at it. Until the idiot President invaded them and handed them over to Iran.

 

[The Guesser]

They still aren't much better..........Saudi Arabia has the worst human rights policies in the world, with absolutely no rights for women........who are not allowed to drive or even go to school, yet we "fight for democracy" everywhere else while turning a blind eye when it benefits us.........hypocracy at it's best.

It's hysterical how hypocritical far too many are in Regards to SA. But I'm glad they are FINALLY starting to fight their own battles, instead of having us do it for them. Their region, their fights, and hopefully we finally get the hell out of that region at some point soon. Not optimistic with the War Monger in office currently, and the seeming far worse ones to follow potentially on either side.

 

[superbeets]

[h=1]Saudi generals use Yemen war to showcase their new swagger[/h]
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- There’s no fog of war here. It’s more like a high-gloss, stage-crafted showcase of Saudi Arabia’s new military swagger.
Every evening since the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen began last week, the fortress-like grounds of the defense ministry in Riyadh has opened to journalists. They listen to a briefing on the latest battlefield events, see some black-and-white warplane video clips of missiles destroying suspected rebel buildings and convoys, and pose a few questions. All pretty standard fare for reporters covering any conflict.
But the Saudis have added their own sense of purpose and pride. The event has become something of a possible dress rehearsal for a country that could be quickly moving out of the background of American-directed security agreements and taking regional matters into its own hands.
The optics leave no doubt that Saudi Arabia is in charge. The news conference opens with 30-second made-for-TV spot showing Saudi armed forces with a baritone voice-over from the country's new monarch, King Salman. “It’s all about my people,” he says. “You cannot touch any of them.”
Then enters the spokesman for the mostly Arab coalition backing up the Saudi attacks against Shiite rebels in Yemen that drove out the country’s president and – Saudi Arabia and its allies fear – could open the door wider for influence by Shiite power Iran.
Brig. Gen. Ahmed Asseri stands in front of the flags of the nations aiding Saudi Arabia, including the country’s Gulf Arab partners and others such as Egypt. But spread out in front of him is an array of expertly built models of Saudi’s military power: warplanes, attack helicopters, tanks, armored personnel carriers. Most of the Saudi arsenal has been purchased from the United States. But in a rare display of military self-sufficiency in the Persian Gulf, there is no overt sign of U.S. partnership.

 

[The Guesser]

Saudi generals use Yemen war to showcase their new swagger


RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- There’s no fog of war here. It’s more like a high-gloss, stage-crafted showcase of Saudi Arabia’s new military swagger.
Every evening since the Saudi-led airstrikes in Yemen began last week, the fortress-like grounds of the defense ministry in Riyadh has opened to journalists. They listen to a briefing on the latest battlefield events, see some black-and-white warplane video clips of missiles destroying suspected rebel buildings and convoys, and pose a few questions. All pretty standard fare for reporters covering any conflict.
But the Saudis have added their own sense of purpose and pride. The event has become something of a possible dress rehearsal for a country that could be quickly moving out of the background of American-directed security agreements and taking regional matters into its own hands.
The optics leave no doubt that Saudi Arabia is in charge. The news conference opens with 30-second made-for-TV spot showing Saudi armed forces with a baritone voice-over from the country's new monarch, King Salman. “It’s all about my people,” he says. “You cannot touch any of them.”
Then enters the spokesman for the mostly Arab coalition backing up the Saudi attacks against Shiite rebels in Yemen that drove out the country’s president and – Saudi Arabia and its allies fear – could open the door wider for influence by Shiite power Iran.
Brig. Gen. Ahmed Asseri stands in front of the flags of the nations aiding Saudi Arabia, including the country’s Gulf Arab partners and others such as Egypt. But spread out in front of him is an array of expertly built models of Saudi’s military power: warplanes, attack helicopters, tanks, armored personnel carriers. Most of the Saudi arsenal has been purchased from the United States. But in a rare display of military self-sufficiency in the Persian Gulf, there is no overt sign of U.S. partnership.

 

[superbeets]

While Obama fails to stand against Iran.

Israel is ready to stand alone against Iran.

Saudi coalition is also ready to stand against Iran.

Let the charade continue in Lausanne .