This is the reason that pretty much settles the better QB argument Brady vs Farve/ Manning.

PatPatriot · Jan 16, 2011

...and he just a little past the halfway point in his career.

With a win Sunday against the Jets, Patriots quarterback Tom Brady will set another impressive record.

It would mark his 15th career playoff victory, which would be the most for any quarterback with one team in NFL history. Brady (14-4 postseason record) entered Sunday tied with Joe Montana (14-5 with the 49ers), Terry Bradshaw (14-5 with the Steelers) and John Elway (14-8 with the Broncos). Montana, Bradshaw and Elway are all first-ballot Hall of Famers.

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

Pat Patriot said:
...and he just a little past the halfway point in his career.

He's been on the best team and had the best coach over the last 10 years, that doesn't mean he is the best QB ! If he is on some of those teams that were coached by a overrated Holmgren,Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress, we are not having this conversation.
Case in point, If Montana doesn't play for SF under Walsh and lets say playing where Elway played, we are not having that conversation. Montana would not have sniffed 1 SB ! Brady now has moved ahead of Manning IMO but not Favre

doubledeuce22 · Jan 16, 2011

RED EYE said:
He's been on the best team and had the best coach over the last 10 years, that doesn't mean he is the best QB ! If he is on some of those teams that were coached by a overrated Holmgren,Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress, we are not having this conversation.
Case in point, If Montana doesn't play for SF under Walsh and lets say playing where Elway played, we are not having that conversation. Montana would not have sniffed 1 SB ! Brady now has moved ahead of Manning IMO but not Favre

maybe brady was the reason they were the best team?????

PatPatriot · Jan 16, 2011

Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress would probably still have jobs if it weren't for Farve.

As far as Brady being on the best teams the other QB's listed teams weren't exactley chopped liver.Brady along with those other QB's were intrical cornerstone parts of those great teams.

Defying · Jan 16, 2011

I hate this arugment. Give me Manning any day. Brady is a shot gun QB playing in the perfect system. Yes he is really good. Yes he runs the system to perfection.. but take Brady out of it, and youll get a slightly above average QB.. still a starter, still a star, just never mentioned in the same breath as Manning.

PatPatriot · Jan 16, 2011

I hate this arugment. Give me Manning any day. Brady is a shot gun QB playing in the perfect system. Yes he is really good. Yes he runs the system to perfection.. but take Brady out of it, and youll get a slightly above average QB.. still a starter, still a star, just never mentioned in the same breath as Manning.

I get your point and everyonelse point on Manning. It depends on how you measure QB's.
The only other QB besides Brady I'd want in a big game is Rothelsberger today.
If you want pretty passes in a dome in October against the Jaguars.I'll take Manning.

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

Pat Patriot said:
Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress would probably still have jobs if it weren't for Farve.

As far as Brady being on the best teams the other QB's listed teams weren't exactley chopped liver.Brady along with those other QB's were intrical cornerstone parts of those great teams.

I can see that Mangini did alot better in Cleveland

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

Pat Patriot said:
Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress would probably still have jobs if it weren't for Farve.

As far as Brady being on the best teams the other QB's listed teams weren't exactley chopped liver.Brady along with those other QB's were intrical cornerstone parts of those great teams.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great QB even with Belichek, I think I moves in to my top 5 or close to it if he finishes this year on top

xpanda · Jan 16, 2011

Heya, Pat!

:bigfinger

(xoxoxo)

HuskerFan1 · Jan 16, 2011

Yup its the system or the coach etc. And it MUST have been the coach who threw the pic6 last year in the sb (obviously ) ya ill take Manning any day too loler. We will see what's up next game...

cincy_ · Jan 16, 2011

RED EYE said:
He's been on the best team and had the best coach over the last 10 years, that doesn't mean he is the best QB ! If he is on some of those teams that were coached by a overrated Holmgren,Rhodes, Sherman,Mangini, Childress, we are not having this conversation.
Case in point, If Montana doesn't play for SF under Walsh and lets say playing where Elway played, we are not having that conversation. Montana would not have sniffed 1 SB ! Brady now has moved ahead of Manning IMO but not Favre

If if if if

No facts. Nothing.

Just if if if if if

Here is one for you:

If Brady's mom and dad hadn't fuckt the day they did ...

cincy_ · Jan 16, 2011

Favre has one Super Bowl in 20 years. FACT.

Favre has 4 playoff wins the last 13 years. FACT.

Yup. That's one of the BEST QBs in your book. FACT.

betedgeonly · Jan 16, 2011

cincy_ said:
Favre has one Super Bowl in 20 years. FACT.

Favre has 4 playoff wins the last 13 years. FACT.

Yup. That's one of the BEST QBs in your book. FACT.

...red eye kill's me also...if if if,,,pick who you want, but if you want ring's, which i believe is the GOAL of ea team to accomplish ea yr, then give me brady or montana over anyone else period....if manning was half the qb that some of these guy's think he is, then he should shut up and just win....pick 6's won't win you any superbowl's anytime soon...

HacheMan · Jan 16, 2011

Give me Favre in his younger days & Prime....

betedgeonly · Jan 16, 2011

favre had a couple of really good yrs, but that was about it....horrible decision making and just way too many pick's.

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

cincy_ said:
If if if if

No facts. Nothing.

Just if if if if if

Here is one for you:

If Brady's mom and dad hadn't fuckt the day they did ...

Kinda getting defensive aren't you ! fact is, this looks like another pathetic playoff performance, same as last years, and not so good against Giants also. When you pressure Brady, he is not very good. He's not like Big Ben or Favre who can create a play. Brady can't do that ! he needs the great offensive lineor he's average at best. Looks like I will be on ignore in 30 minutes

cincy_ · Jan 16, 2011

Hache Man said:
Give me Favre in his younger days & Prime....

His prime was THREE years. For seventeen years, he sucked.

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

cincy_ said:
His prime was THREE years. For seventeen years, he sucked.

He was the best QB in the league in 09 ! Should have had the MVP

cincy_ · Jan 16, 2011

RED EYE said:
Kinda getting defensive aren't you ! fact is, this looks like another pathetic playoff performance, same as last years, and not so good against Giants also. When you pressure brady, he is not very good. He's not like Big Ben or Favre who can creat a play. Brady can't do that ! he needs the great offensive lineor he's average at best. Looks like I will be on ignore in 30 minutes

Oh ... Premature ejaculation. Do you have a boner too? Those pics that Brett Favre sent probably gets you jacked up. 30 minutes don't mean shit.

Over three years, you've proven yourself to be a delusional hater.

It is halftime now, but if the Pats come back, you need to STFU, sit down, eat crow and go look at the pics that Favre sent Jenn Sterger.

REDEYE · Jan 16, 2011

cincy_ said:
Oh ... Premature ejaculation. Do you have a boner too? Those pics that Brett Favre sent probably gets you jacked up. 30 minutes don't mean shit.

Over three years, you've proven yourself to be a delusional hater.

It is halftime now, but if the Pats come back, you need to STFU, sit down, eat crow and go look at the pics that Favre sent Jenn Sterger.

funny ! I'm actually rooting for them to come back , I make more money with Pats winning this game ! have 2 teasers on this sorry ass team laying -2. I know the truth hurts but come on man !