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Nirvana Shill
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Really? You and redeye were the two biggest buyers of the whole lie. Like I said in the beginning, Mortenson knew crap and the whole thing was made up. You called me an idiot in how many posts? Eat the crow

I'm still waiting on the verdict before I issue a retraction....
 

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They've been in the league alot longer. And both have benefitted from good defenses and running games in the playoffs.

when Luck does these great things in big games, and I think he will, I will be agreeing with you..
 

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Really? You and redeye were the two biggest buyers of the whole lie. Like I said in the beginning, Mortenson knew crap and the whole thing was made up. You called me an idiot in how many posts? Eat the crow

I think you have me mistaken for someone else. I don't see deflate gate as a big deal. I kind of want to reserve having an opinion on it until the results of the investigation.

I called you an idiot? Care to show me where?
 

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I'm still waiting on the verdict before I issue a retraction....


Really?!?

You didn't wait for a verdict before you issued blame.....
 

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Really?!?

You didn't wait for a verdict before you issued blame.....

Still think they cheated but we'll see..Brady still is the only QB on record that can't tell the difference in the air pressure of the balls..sounds shady to me and everyone outside of NE
 
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Looks like Montana's wins are tainted, he was throwing to a cheater.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/jerry-rice-admits-to-cheating-says-everyone-did-it/

[h=1]Jerry Rice admits to cheating, says everyone did it[/h]Posted by Mike Florio on February 7, 2015, 10:28 AM EST
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With Hall of Fame receiver Jerry Rice applying an asterisk to New England’s latest Super Bowl win, Patriots fans will now apply 1,549 asterisks to Jerry Rice’s career achievements.
On Friday, PFT pointed out (at the behest of multiple Patriots fans) a recent admission from Rice that he applied stickum to his gloves.
“I know this might be a little illegal, guys, but you put a little spray, a little stickum on them, to make sure that texture is a little sticky,” Rice said with a laugh as part of an ESPN feature regarding the evolution of gloves.
At a time when many were expecting Rice to claim that his words were taken out of context or that he was joking, Rice has taken to Twitter to admit that he did it, and that it was more than “a little illegal.”
“I apologize ppl after doing my research about stickum!,” Rice said. “The NFL banned this in 1981. All players did it! #equalplayingfield.”
The banishment of stickum sparked the increased use of gloves. Rice, who was drafted by the 49ers four years after stickum became an illegal substance, enhanced the gloves with stickum.
“I’m going to be point blank, I feel like it’s cheating,” Rice told Jim Rome on January 22 regarding the current controversy regarding whether the Patriots deflated footballs. “Because you have an edge up on your opponent and it’s unfortunate that it happened. I’m not saying the outcome of the game would have been different or anything like that because they got beat 45-7, but they still had an edge.”
By claiming that “All players did it!” regarding stickum use, Rice is trying to create the impression that he didn’t have an edge. Regardless, it’s now clear that the greatest receiver of all time cheated — and it’s hard not to wonder whether Rice discovered the glove-stickum combo at some point during a rocky rookie season that featured nearly enough drops to get him benched.
Indeed, Rice at one point in 1985 ditched his glove and went back to catching footballs bare-handed.
I had to get back to my hands,” Rice said in 1985, from a 2006 item by Mike Tanier of FootballOutsiders.com. “My hands got me here.”
At some point, Rice got back to his gloves. And he started putting stickum on them. And his gloves with stickum helped get him to Canton.
 

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Haha difference between Rice and Brady... Rice admits to it and says it was illegal/cheating. Brady says durrr I can't tell the difference in the ball, I don't know what you're talking about.
 
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Haha difference between Rice and Brady... Rice admits to it and says it was illegal/cheating. Brady says durrr I can't tell the difference in the ball, I don't know what you're talking about.

1. So if you admit it, it's ok?
2. Nothing has even come close to proving Brady did anything wrong
 

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the weeks prior to this year's SB will go down as filled with some of the shittiest reporting, and coverage of that reporting, in sports history. Regardless of the outcome; everyone involved should be embarrassed to cash their checks for those two weeks.
 

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Still think they cheated but we'll see..Brady still is the only QB on record that can't tell the difference in the air pressure of the balls..sounds shady to me and everyone outside of NE

at best, this in known as an argumentative fallacy known as "begging the question", and that's assuming balls were actually significantly deflated

but the real problem I have with that statement is that I don't believe professional football players can tell if a ball is under-inflated by 1 PSI (which appears to be greater than what 10 of the balls were deflated by). ESPN's sports science video, which was pulled very quickly early on in the controversy, concluded that a professional athlete can apply 1.5% more pressure which did necessarily mean an advantage because it really depends on personal preference. Secondly, the weight of the ball changes by the weight of a dollar bill. So I really don't think they can feel the difference. And since they play with 12 game balls a day, I'm 100% certain they're all playing with game balls that vary in PSI each and every game.




http://youtu.be/VZ_S8F3mKFE
 

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Looks like Montana's wins are tainted, he was throwing to a cheater.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/07/jerry-rice-admits-to-cheating-says-everyone-did-it/

Jerry Rice admits to cheating, says everyone did it

Posted by Mike Florio on February 7, 2015, 10:28 AM EST
jerryricegetty.jpg
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With Hall of Fame receiver Jerry Rice applying an asterisk to New England’s latest Super Bowl win, Patriots fans will now apply 1,549 asterisks to Jerry Rice’s career achievements.
On Friday, PFT pointed out (at the behest of multiple Patriots fans) a recent admission from Rice that he applied stickum to his gloves.
“I know this might be a little illegal, guys, but you put a little spray, a little stickum on them, to make sure that texture is a little sticky,” Rice said with a laugh as part of an ESPN feature regarding the evolution of gloves.
At a time when many were expecting Rice to claim that his words were taken out of context or that he was joking, Rice has taken to Twitter to admit that he did it, and that it was more than “a little illegal.”
“I apologize ppl after doing my research about stickum!,” Rice said. “The NFL banned this in 1981. All players did it! #equalplayingfield.”
The banishment of stickum sparked the increased use of gloves. Rice, who was drafted by the 49ers four years after stickum became an illegal substance, enhanced the gloves with stickum.
“I’m going to be point blank, I feel like it’s cheating,” Rice told Jim Rome on January 22 regarding the current controversy regarding whether the Patriots deflated footballs. “Because you have an edge up on your opponent and it’s unfortunate that it happened. I’m not saying the outcome of the game would have been different or anything like that because they got beat 45-7, but they still had an edge.”
By claiming that “All players did it!” regarding stickum use, Rice is trying to create the impression that he didn’t have an edge. Regardless, it’s now clear that the greatest receiver of all time cheated — and it’s hard not to wonder whether Rice discovered the glove-stickum combo at some point during a rocky rookie season that featured nearly enough drops to get him benched.
Indeed, Rice at one point in 1985 ditched his glove and went back to catching footballs bare-handed.
I had to get back to my hands,” Rice said in 1985, from a 2006 item by Mike Tanier of FootballOutsiders.com. “My hands got me here.”
At some point, Rice got back to his gloves. And he started putting stickum on them. And his gloves with stickum helped get him to Canton.


cheater, and that's an acknowledged fact

didn't the 49er's have illegal contracts skirting the salary cap issues? I "think" they did
 
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cheater, and that's an acknowledged fact

didn't the 49er's have illegal contracts skirting the salary cap issues? I "think" they did

Yep. So by the logic of the national media and some of the loons on this board.. Asterisk next to all of rices records, and sb win he was involved in, and montana should be viewed as tainted. This is fun.
 
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I thought he just said, he can't tell the difference? Brady on a Boston radio show in November 2011

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at best, this in known as an argumentative fallacy known as "begging the question", and that's assuming balls were actually significantly deflated

but the real problem I have with that statement is that I don't believe professional football players can tell if a ball is under-inflated by 1 PSI (which appears to be greater than what 10 of the balls were deflated by). ESPN's sports science video, which was pulled very quickly early on in the controversy, concluded that a professional athlete can apply 1.5% more pressure which did necessarily mean an advantage because it really depends on personal preference. Secondly, the weight of the ball changes by the weight of a dollar bill. So I really don't think they can feel the difference. And since they play with 12 game balls a day, I'm 100% certain they're all playing with game balls that vary in PSI each and every game.




http://youtu.be/VZ_S8F3mKFE

all the other QB's interviewed are lying then.....ok............
 
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Brady admitted he prefers the deflated balls. But having thrown a football, I would think everyone would. More control over the ball, easier to handle. NFL footballs are like huge rocks when fully inflated. That is why these GM's put alot of value in hand size. Remember as kids, you would play with those halfway small footballs and you could throw those things harder and farther than a regular ball.
 

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Well lets hope the NFL keeps control of the balls for now on. Since the NFL controlled the balls (2nd half of the AFCCG) Brady is like 50-70 500 yards 6 TD's and Super Bowl MVP, against the best defense in the NFL in 15 years, in the process over coming the largest 4th quarter deficit in Super Bowl History.
Tom and Patriot nation thank you. Because the Patriots have won since spygate and Ballghazi. Thanks for the scrutiny and the national attempt to discredit and distract the greatest franchise in the NFL. Thank you Patriots for giving hater nation the best dick punch you possibly could have by ripping their balls off with a last second pick by a dirt cheap undrafted free agent from some school in Ala. nobody ever heard of. The Patriot way. It was the most satisfying win ever for Pats fans.
 

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