The world heard me and my Christian friends loud and clear yesterday

xpanda · Nov 3, 2004

truthteller said:
You people? I have never said I supported the war based on the apocolypse.

You people, yes. You certainly are your own breed. Visit www.rr-bb.com and have a boo at how excited these freaks get when violence heats up in the ME. Rapture nutters and Fundy Islamists deserve each other. Think Bush believes in the Rapture?? Think this might be a little dangerous, with the whole nuke thing and all??

What do you support the war on, if not the Rapture? Certainly can't be anything factual, since any justification has been proven bogus. Or do you fall into the same camp as bblight, who thinks it's just grand that the US invited terrorists to fight in the backyards of Iraqi's?

How does being pro-war -- pro-unecessary war -- sit with god, I wonder?

eek. · Nov 3, 2004

:>Grin> :>Grin>

Hey.

You can ban abortion and bring back prohibition !!
Isn't prohibition the only amendment that ever got repealed?

Once you let in the religious a$$clowns, the fireworks start.
Look at the 1920's, never a dull moment.

Heh.

GAMEFACE · Nov 3, 2004

Two 100+ story buildings crashing down was not an illusion. Are you saying they they mean no harm??? They murdered 3000, if they could have murdered 300,000 they would have. Get a clue.

xpanda · Nov 3, 2004

GAMEFACE said:
Two 100+ story buildings crashing down was not an illusion. Are you saying they they mean no harm??? They murdered 3000, if they could have murdered 300,000 they would have. Get a clue.

Not sure who this is directed to, but what both Eek and I are saying is that Islamists who plan terrorist attacks and Christian Fundies who support holy wars are basically one and the same. Self-righteousness is not becoming to religions who claim to be for brotherhood and peace. Both evangelicals and fundy Islamists reek of it.

I certainly see no distinction.

GAMEFACE · Nov 3, 2004

I don't know of any Christians fighting a holy war. I know America is defending itself against radical islam. I know radical islam is fighting 15 conflicts worldwide. It's time for the two of you to open your eyes to what's going on.

bblight · Nov 3, 2004

xpanda - you are truely clueless!

Now you're comparing the Christian right wing who push their morality on us, but have no wish to kill anyone, to a bunch of radical Muslim murderers who wrap themselves in their religion as their excuse to commit genocide!

You belong in Ripleys Believe it or not - because no right thinking human being would think like you!

truthteller · Nov 3, 2004

Xpanda, your lack of intelligence is truly showing in this thread. The only way one can be for this war is because of the apocolypse?

Truly amazing thought.

docmercer--banned · Nov 3, 2004

this is good ...

well, no turning back now, kiddies ...

there is no exit strategy in Iraq with Bush back in office and god help our kids

This is not good ...

xpanda · Nov 3, 2004

Blight: the evangelicals I refer to would not kill with their own hands, no. But they do believe wholeheartedly in this rapture nonsense and literally (no joking on my part) get all in a tizzy when more violence erupts. At the board I link, they are speculating how long it will take for Israel to hit Iran and ooooh! we're getting closer!!!! They're nutbars.

Truth: I have heard you make no political commentary other than to espouse your religious beliefs in a political forum. Your religious views impact who you vote for, obviously. It seems to be the foundation for your beliefs. I know why people like Shotgun and blight support the war. Why don't you simply clear up any confusion and tell me it's not to pave the way for Jesus' second coming and tell me it's because of ________. Just calling me unintelligent hardly makes your case.

DavidMatthews · Nov 3, 2004

I'm sure all you Christians who are single never have sex, and all you Christians who are married never had sex before marriage.

JudgeWapner · Nov 3, 2004

Scary thread.

truthteller · Nov 3, 2004

xpanda said:
Truth: I have heard you make no political commentary other than to espouse your religious beliefs in a political forum. Your religious views impact who you vote for, obviously. It seems to be the foundation for your beliefs. I know why people like Shotgun and blight support the war. Why don't you simply clear up any confusion and tell me it's not to pave the way for Jesus' second coming and tell me it's because of ________. Just calling me unintelligent hardly makes your case.

I supported the war because Saddam was a threat to the whole world. I would also support invasion of Iran and Korea. Never in my wildest dreams did I thought of the apocolypse for a reason to get rid of Saddam.

You are way off on that one.

JudgeWapner · Nov 3, 2004

TT,strange position for a Christian, to be in favor of so many wars.Not so sure Jesus would agree.

GAMEFACE · Nov 3, 2004

David Matthews said:
I'm sure all you Christians who are single never have sex, and all you Christians who are married never had sex before marriage.

Dave,

Being a Christian doesn't mean you are perfect or have not sinned or will ever to sin again. Is that why some of you are afraid of Christianity? Everyone falls short at times Dave.

JudgeWapner · Nov 3, 2004

Out,I have a great respect for true Christianity. But much of what is being passed of as Chrisianity has few roots in the tenets of the teachings of Christ. IMO.

docmercer--banned · Nov 3, 2004

Judge:

Yep ...

The Christian Church teaches Sunday is the day of worship .. they changed it to Sunday back in the 14th century

DavidMatthews · Nov 3, 2004

"Christians" seem to want to pick and choose which virtues they're going to follow. Sex outside of marriage is clearly wrong in the Bible and I think 80% of "Christian" singles are banging.

It's fine with me if they want to bang each other, jerk off, bang same-sex or not... I don't care, but when they then go use their same religion to make laws that interfere with my life, I find that very hypocritical.

By the way, I am not gay, but I think if two people are in love with each other, why should the government tell them they can't be married? Life is so short, and very hard for most people. The government should support happiness and love. What kind of evil, mean-spirited, group (Christians) would tell two people that love each other they can't be married? That's one sick group who won't let two people be in love and happy together just because they have the same set of genitalia.

Some people were biologically born with both sets of genitals. I suppose they can't marry anyone? Some people were born sterile and unable to reproduce. The only logical reason I can think of the man-woman requirement is a biological ability to reproduce. Should sterile people not be allowed ot marry?

Have your religion all you want. Praise God. Go to church. Tithe. Heck, evangelize and ask me if I want to read the Bible or go to church with you. I have no problems with any of that.

BUT KEEP THE CHURCH OUTTA MY GOVERNMENT

Anyway, deaf ears, I know.

GAMEFACE · Nov 3, 2004

Christophobia..

eek. · Nov 3, 2004

The Christian whackos will want some payback from Bush.

It was their votes that swung it his way.
They now hold the key to the Whitehouse for the Republican party,
and they will demand concessions.

Roe v Wade is the biggest cherry.
(gotta keep the women down, religion specialises in that)

Theres other stuff like putting gays in their place.
(They still have to pay taxes and go off to war, but religion sez they can't get married)

Prohibition? na surely not...(but internet gambling is probaly screwed.)

Sex. omg the S word...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3887177.stm

It won't be long before they start knocking on the front door of the Whitehouse.

heh. Bush has drunk from a poisoned chalice.

Hes got the Mid East Islamic whackos and the homebased christian a$$clowns, and they're all after his raggety cowboy ass.

xpanda · Nov 4, 2004

truthteller said:
I supported the war because Saddam was a threat to the whole world. I would also support invasion of Iran and Korea. Never in my wildest dreams did I thought of the apocolypse for a reason to get rid of Saddam.

You are way off on that one.

Estimates show that between 13,000 and 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died in that war. Evidence also shows that Saddam was not, after all, a threat of dire proportions to the whole world. Even more evidence shows that the US gov't is a greater threat to world peace. Verifiable evidence shows that the US holds more weapons of mass destruction than the rest of the world combined, and uses them. What do you think of the morality of Bush's support for terrorist guerillas in Colombia? Or for his ousting of elected President Aristide from Haiti and his funding and backing of the guerillas who are slaughtering people in the countryside? What do you think of the US turning a blind eye to Saddam's gassing of the Kurds in 1988?

How does having a pro-war stance fit with Christianity?? What ever happened to self-defence as the only defence? Why is it okay for the US to be the aggressor and to hold a cache of nukes but not okay for other countries to do the same? What license on morality does the US hold that makes it so superior to the rest of the world, despite it's record of military aggression?

Do you not see the hypocrisy here? It seems to me that Christian fundamentalists in the US believe that god is on their side, and is against anyone who disagrees with you, since they are probably created by satan and are therefore evil. Thus, the US is always on the side of 'right' even when it does wrong. Is this something you believe, too?