I'd be hard pressed to find virtually any Muslim that will speak out against terrorism? This post right here shows me your level of knowledge on this topic. I lived with 40 Muslims every single day for a year. Ate with them, worked out with them and trained together. Not one of them condoned terrorism. They described fanatics as "uneducated" and "in need of money." The Muslims I lived with were educated, motivated and trying to better their future. They prayed daily, read the Koran and observed Ramadan. We were all peaceful and lived together just fine. Your view is based on the fanatics you see on T.V. That's it.
I'd be hard pressed to find virtually any Muslim that will speak out against terrorism? This post right here shows me your level of knowledge on this topic. I lived with 40 Muslims every single day for a year. Ate with them, worked out with them and trained together. Not one of them condoned terrorism. They described fanatics as "uneducated" and "in need of money." The Muslims I lived with were educated, motivated and trying to better their future. They prayed daily, read the Koran and observed Ramadan. We were all peaceful and lived together just fine. Your view is based on the fanatics you see on T.V. That's it.
Are you really trying to compare 40 people to a belief/movement? Likely one of the dumbest things I have ever heard on the internet, which says a lot. I agree we shouldn't judge masses on the actions of a few, but supporting any way a culture that supports abuse of women and children is the biggest hole a man could possibly have in his character.
Uh no. In post #59, the poster said we'd be hard pressed to find any Muslim that would speak out against terror. The example I provided is just a small sample of how that assertion is completely false. That's all. Guys, there's been at least three posts in this thread that are just complete and utter lies with the poster claiming me or another poster are saying things we aren't. I understand you're trying to get your points across but let's stick to facts and keep it civil.
Of course if they were in the US military.
I guess my greater point is that there is not a swell or an uprising from "The vast majority" against the "few fanatics". Surely this "vast majority" would be able to squash the fanatics without much of a problem right?
now, if one is not arguing "Christians are as bad as Muslims", then why are we having this conversation? why does one argue the Christian religion encourages violence and uses Hitler as proof of such because Hitler was a Christian? Why does one feel it necessary to say all religion has fanaticals that resort to violence in an attempt to mitigate Muslim violence?
if one is not arguing "Christians are as bad as Muslims", then are you now acknowledging the vast majority of modern day violence done in the name of religion is committed by Muslims? because if that's the case, then we're on the same page
and once again that doesn't mean all Muslims are evil, although the % of evil is obviously significant when you consider how many people are murdered or tortured or disfigured by them each and every year
if one is not arguing "Christians are as bad as Muslims", then are you now acknowledging the vast majority of modern day violence done in the name of religion is committed by Muslims? because if that's the case, then we're on the same page
and once again that doesn't mean all Muslims are evil, although the % of evil is obviously significant when you consider how many people are murdered or tortured or disfigured by them each and every year
just keep dancing, your words have meaning and your words were clearly and purposely implying some false equivalency, "they all have fanaticals" was your "open minded" argument. So much so you said "I have to be more reasonable". Of course, you compounded your mistake by saying we think "all Muslims are evil". Now if that's your argument, all Muslims are not evil uou should have taken a much different path. this thread would not be what it is today.i
furthermore, saying "if one is NOT arguing "Christians are as bad as Muslims"" is not an accusation, it's something one should be able to get past unless one simply chooses not to. Now maybe what follows could have pissed you off, but not the words you choose to cite.
and I still don't know how anyone can justify the Hitler argument, yet you didn't have a problem with that and you didn't correct such statement. Instead you quoted it while talking about your dissent from my positions
You guys claim
"Chritains are as bad as Muslims" with some weak equivalency arguments
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did you know? the aforementioned statement is not intended to be a quote, and it should be obvious as to why
I did not say you spoke such words, I am saying you're IMPLYING SUCH with EQUIVALENCY ARGUMENTS
get in the game already, I don't lie.
"Chritains are as bad as Muslims" with some weak equivalency arguments
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did you know? the aforementioned statement is not intended to be a quote, and it should be obvious as to why
I did not say you spoke such words, I am saying you're IMPLYING SUCH with EQUIVALENCY ARGUMENTS
get in the game already, I don't lie.
just for clarification, although I am a catholic (what Italian isn't?), I'm not a religious zealot and religious people would not consider me to be a religious man
I would say that I've been to hundreds of Christian ceremonies, and a dozen Jewish ceremonies, and not once have any words been spoken about committing acts of violence, not one time. However, each and every time someone spoke about love and compassion and tolerance, helping people and doing what's right. So when I here arguments about all religions being a source of violence, I simply can't respect such nonsense.
I don't know if there's a god, but I do know Jesus was a wonderful philosopher and the very minimum. I'm proud to cite his teachings and essentially live by his value system.
Not sure you can say that about a religion who's leaders often times teach you must kill infidels. And no, that doesn't mean they all teach such, but enough of them do.
I would say that I've been to hundreds of Christian ceremonies, and a dozen Jewish ceremonies, and not once have any words been spoken about committing acts of violence, not one time. However, each and every time someone spoke about love and compassion and tolerance, helping people and doing what's right. So when I here arguments about all religions being a source of violence, I simply can't respect such nonsense.
I don't know if there's a god, but I do know Jesus was a wonderful philosopher and the very minimum. I'm proud to cite his teachings and essentially live by his value system.
Not sure you can say that about a religion who's leaders often times teach you must kill infidels. And no, that doesn't mean they all teach such, but enough of them do.
40 out of 4 billion.
I'm just wondering that if the majority or a cast minority don't feel as these radicals do, then why don't they stop them? They are commuting these atrocities in the name of their God yet their own is letting them get away with it.
Maybe it's me but I'm a little apprehensive here
Dancing about what Willie? And please answer my question. I've asked it twice now. Why did you claim me and another poster said in this thread "Christians are as bas as Muslims" when we clearly did not say that? Can you just admit you were wrong and made a claim that isn't true? Then we can move on.
been there, done that
hint: it's the first post quoted above this statement
a/k/a post number 73 in this thread
