I'm not going to comment on how good or not good OSU is (personally I think they are a solid team). However, I sincerely hope the committee sets a precedent this year that punishes teams (like OSU) that play in a weak conference and then schedules incredibly weak OOC games. I'm not going to blame OSU for their conference (bc that's out of their control) but I will blame them for scheduling 4 awful OOC games (3 of those at home) and losing one of those games. I cannot look past that no matter how good OSU is in their conference schedule.
If you want to schedule weak OOC games, fine, but your conference schedule better make up for it (like Miss St or Arizona). Otherwise, you should be severely punished in the committees eyes. I'll give FSU a ton of credit because they made a sincere effort to schedule big boy games. Although their schedule didn't turn out as strong as we expected, at least they tried with Florida, OkSt, and Notre Dame. To me, I will reward their effort and that makes up for being in a weak conference like the ACC.
For the sake of college football and fans getting to watch interesting games, they cannot reward teams that schedule such trash games OOC and play in bad conferences. All you are doing is incentivizing teams to not schedule tough games. On top of that, the one top-50 team OSU did schedule OOC, they still lost to at home, then ran the table in the weakest conference in the country while not playing a tough game until week #9.
What other schools can literally play no tough game until week #9 (thus giving themselves 9 weeks to improve as a team and "find themselves"), still lose one of those games at home, then show up for their 1st legit game in week #9, win, and be considered a top-4 team? Every Pac-12, Big-12, and SEC school doesn't get that same luxury. Hell, neither did Wisconsin.
I think Wisconsin is more deserving than OSU (not because I think they are better) but because they at least scheduled a great OOC game to start the season. OSU would have lost that game to LSU to start the year also. At least Wisconsin's losses are to 1 good team (neutral site) and another loss on the road by 6 points. If they scheduled like OSU, they'd have only road 1 loss to this point.
If you want to schedule weak OOC games, fine, but your conference schedule better make up for it (like Miss St or Arizona). Otherwise, you should be severely punished in the committees eyes. I'll give FSU a ton of credit because they made a sincere effort to schedule big boy games. Although their schedule didn't turn out as strong as we expected, at least they tried with Florida, OkSt, and Notre Dame. To me, I will reward their effort and that makes up for being in a weak conference like the ACC.
For the sake of college football and fans getting to watch interesting games, they cannot reward teams that schedule such trash games OOC and play in bad conferences. All you are doing is incentivizing teams to not schedule tough games. On top of that, the one top-50 team OSU did schedule OOC, they still lost to at home, then ran the table in the weakest conference in the country while not playing a tough game until week #9.
What other schools can literally play no tough game until week #9 (thus giving themselves 9 weeks to improve as a team and "find themselves"), still lose one of those games at home, then show up for their 1st legit game in week #9, win, and be considered a top-4 team? Every Pac-12, Big-12, and SEC school doesn't get that same luxury. Hell, neither did Wisconsin.
I think Wisconsin is more deserving than OSU (not because I think they are better) but because they at least scheduled a great OOC game to start the season. OSU would have lost that game to LSU to start the year also. At least Wisconsin's losses are to 1 good team (neutral site) and another loss on the road by 6 points. If they scheduled like OSU, they'd have only road 1 loss to this point.
8ate in all due respect Big 10 football players are not like SEC players mentality wise. First of all we weren't freshman at 20yrs old. Second we are student athletes that GRADUATE from some of the finest academic schools in the country.( there are SIX Big 10 schools that take a back seat to not many academically)...and last but not least Big 10 players don't talk as if they have shit in their mouth...
take note Torpedo knucklehead...
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1) Alabama at least schedule 1 legit OOC game and they also did another novel thing...they won it. At a neutral site. OSU scheduled 0 tough OOC games and they lost 1 at home.
2) The Pac-12, Big-12, & SEC schedules give teams in those conferences a chance to beat good teams (unlike the Big10) to make up for weak OOC games. I'm not saying I like that they schedule 3 weak OOC games but at least they have to play good teams before week #9 and most teams in those conferences (like Alabama, LSU, Florida, Tenn, Oregon, AzSt, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Texas, etc.) schedule 1 legit OOC game.
3) I'm not asking OSU to schedule 4 top-25 OOC games but 1 tough game would be nice to see. In the past 3 seasons, their best OOCs have been Cal (twice) and VaTech (once). That's horrible. And they are 2-1.
4) Here are other Big-10 teams that (unlike OSU) schedule at least 1 legit OOC game and actually challenged themselves: Michigan, Wisconsin, MichSt, Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Maryland. Notice OSU is not on that list. It's embarrasing.
You flat out can't defend OSU here. They have set a precedent of scheduling as weak as possible, trying to run through a weak conference, hope a bunch of other teams lose, then back door into the NCG. That's Ohio St's M.O.
Poor argument for strength of schedule. 4 years ago when these schedules were made, Cincy was a 10-3 team and so was V Tech. Only in the past 2 years did these teams go to shit. Navy is a tough game no matter what with that offense, ask any Coach in America about that. They have scheduled Oklahoma, TCU, Oregon, and Notre Dame in the next 10 years. But when they suck we will hear the same bullshit. Ohio State can't help Michigan and Penn State has went to hell or that teams have been down the past couple years. They play the teams on their schedule.
1) This is the biggest fan-boy post: "Navy is a tough game no matter what..". Please spare me on that nonsense.
2) VaTech hasn't been good in a decade...they've just been in the ACC. The "games are scheduled 5 years out" argument is ridiculous. Wisconsin didn't have a hard time scheuling good OOC game with LSU. Neither did Mich St with Orgeon. The OSU fan base loves this fallacy because they consistently have to use it to defend their embarrasing OOC games. Also, you sound ridiculous trying to sell anyone on the idea that OSU scheduled Cinncy 4 years ago thinking they'd be good. No they didn't...which is the exact reason OSU wanted to play them. They also didn't think VaTech would be good so stop with that. If you schedule a truly top program (like UGA, USC, Oregon, LSU, Auburn, Oklahoma, FSU, etc) and they aren't good the year you play them, I won't blame you. But I will blame you if you scheule Cal or Va Tech because you knew what you were doing.
3) When OSU plays Oklahoma, Oregon, and Notre Dame...I'll give them credit. But this year they instead played VaTech and loss...so they get none.
4) You're right, Michigan being down is not OSU's fault which is why I don't blame them for that. But the OOC schedule is Ohio St's fault. So when you end up in a weak conference and then you're OOC schedule is weak, and you have a loss....you have no right to claim a spot in the big game. IMO, you should be behind a lot of 2 loss schools because you simply shouldn't be rewarded for playing 1 tough game a year. In the last 3 years, OSU has had 3 tough games and they are 1-2 in those games. And they also have a loss to Va Tech in addition to those 3 games. I simply can't reward a team for that.
Your speaking from the heart... I am rooting but you have to be objective. I think they are undervalued but if able to get in the top 4 nothing will be easy. With such a young team all I could hope for is a respectable showing. FSU is undefeated for a reason, Bama is like a machine with the athletes they put on the field. Oregon, TCU, and Baylor I think we could beat. FSU/Bama should be the favorites to win it all.
Bama opened up against WV. A solid team. Sorry bama plays their out of conf schedule early and plays small teams before there byes. We are just a bunch of dumb hicks we aint got know idea whats going on..Play good teams early before they can max potential and play cupcakes before big games. Get some sense and do the same at your school.
1. Southern schools won't play up North because they are scared. They always want to do neutral field in the south somewhere. This is well documented, no argumenting this.
2. Virginia Tech has near 100 wins over the last decade. If that's not quality scheduling, I don't know what is. If they were put on any bodies schedule 5 years ago, they would be considered quAlity. You can't argue they haven't been a top 25 program the past 10 years. Weak argument.
3. You still aren't giving them credit with schedules of the past which includes Notre DAme, USC, and Texas with Vince Young.
4. Out of conference, I'd match them up with about anybody based on nobody knows when teams will be up or down.
5. If they win out they will be in. I hope they get Florida State. They will kick his teeth in. I don't want tot play Bama, who does. Oregon would be a good game.
Gl gl luck on ur action today and go bucks!
2. Virginia Tech has near 100 wins over the last decade. If that's not quality scheduling, I don't know what is. If they were put on any bodies schedule 5 years ago, they would be considered quAlity. You can't argue they haven't been a top 25 program the past 10 years. Weak argument.
3. You still aren't giving them credit with schedules of the past which includes Notre DAme, USC, and Texas with Vince Young.
4. Out of conference, I'd match them up with about anybody based on nobody knows when teams will be up or down.
5. If they win out they will be in. I hope they get Florida State. They will kick his teeth in. I don't want tot play Bama, who does. Oregon would be a good game.
Gl gl luck on ur action today and go bucks!
So by this logic you are saying wvu is historically better in the past 10 years thank virginia tech? Lol
wvu is an average team this year just as va tech--how U can say their "solid" is beyond me, just reaching on your part.
Also, I'm sick of seeing this love for Alabama on this board, but it's not surprising given the squares here that drink the espn kool aid
Exactly...heard this before...Ohio state beat a very fast, chip kelly coached oregon team handily in the 2010 rose bowl when everyone said OSU didn't have the speed to match oregon's(lamichael james, kenjon garner, legarette blount, jeremiah masoli who was getting a ton of hype, and more)...had fun taking that money line....we have as much speed as anyone in the nation...these are urbane recruits now, not tressels...please come with facts gents, these general statements are foolish and annoy the shit out of me..take the 6 to 1 odds fellas, this is this years national champion...they have it all...oh and now noah spence
1) The "scared southern teams" argument is such a fan-boy move. There is no documentation or truth to that. Plus, why is the Big10 so worried about the South? The Big10 isn't even keeping up with the Pac12 or Big12 much less Southern schools. As a Pac-12 fan, I'd say you guys should be more concerned with schools out West than in the South.
2) Jus like trying to convince us that Navy and Cinncy were legit OOC games failed, so too does your VaTech argument. Va Tech has had average talent for a decade. I'm sorry I don't consider a team that loses 3+ games in the weak ACC every year good. Va Tech hasn't been a top-25 team in 3 years and they weren't that good when they were in it so stop with that argument. Once again, your rivals Wisconsin & Mich St didn't have trouble getting a decent OOC game scheduled.
3) OSU hasn't played a decent OOC game since USC in 2009. You don't get any credit for who you played 5 years ago. I also don't think it is a coincidence that OSU lost both of those games to USC and stopped scheduling top-tier teams.
4) As I've said, I'm not arguing about if OSU is any good because I think they are. I just find it ridiculous that a team can avoid playing a tough game until week #9, still lose a game before that, win their 1 tough game in a weak conference, and be considered for the playoff. You have to punish teams that take that route otherwise you will encourage every team to schedule trash OOC. I simply want to watch good football games and IMO, if OSU gets in, we are rewarding them for not challenging themselves and avoiding playing good schools.
