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No question this game was decided by another bad performance by Cam Ward, (and Ranger PP as you said). Terrible rebounds by him and the score could have been worse. Meanwhile I don’t see where Lundqvist was really tested and when he was he failed. I think Lundqvist is in one of those funks that all goalies experience during the course of a long season and obviously beatable, especially 5 hole. Confidence is such a fragile thing for goalies and I don’t think he’s feeling it right now.

As far as Wednesday it would have to be a fade Ranger mentality for me as the Islanders have been underwhelming in my eyes this year. Not even close to meeting the expectations I had for them before the season started. However when you compare the two rosters I think the Islanders are the superior team in all ways except in goal. With Lundqvist experiencing this less than stellar streak I’ll be with you again. The other Ranger strength this year with special teams is basically a wash between these two especially considering the Islanders seem to be turning their’s around, (3/6 PP, 0/7 PK last two).

I think your -120 for the Islanders is spot on.

Isles opened at -115 most places, and now sit around -125. I don't think there's massive value there, as the Islanders have been pretty underwhelming so far this year as you noted. Having said that, despite the Rangers' recent struggles (at least points-wise) their shooting and save percentages (PDO) SA5v5 are still at 105.1, so there's plenty of room for more correction. For reference, second best in the NHL is at 102.4, and the Rangers STILL have the #1 Sh% AND #1 Sv% in the league.
So while the Isles have been mediocre so far this year, their analytics are damn-near elite compared to the Rangers.
 

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http://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/en/preview?id=2015020356

When NHL.com staff writers start hinting at a lot of luck and poor possession metrics it tells you 2 things:
1) it's getting pretty mainstream
2) ordinary joes will start paying attention, eating away at the value fading the Rangers provides...

It's one thing when Yost or Cullen discuss it, and another thing entirely when it's almost the only thing discussed in a game preview...
There will always be plenty of standings watchers capping that way, but less of those guys is bad for us.
 

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Feddz, What a great game that was last night. A friend of mine went to it and said the atmosphere was absolutely crazy. I think the move to Brooklyn has just ramped up what was already a good rivalry. They have 3 games left against each other, (at Barclay’s on 1/14), and the second to last game of the season at MSG could have monumental implications. Both for the teams and our personal wager.

You gave me a bit of a head start in our bet but something tells me it’ll come right down to the wire. Rangers on pace for 116 points as of today. Considering their loss of momentum over the last 10 games I think 110 points might be a over estimate. I don’t know, we’ll see, but god help me if Lundqvist goes down.
 

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If there was any thread deserving of a bump it would be this one.

Can anyone remember a team going from that hot to this cold in a blink of a eye? Very good, (and timely), call Feddz
 

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Since Feddz posted this.

The Rangers have gone 3-9-2. Outscored 53-35
 

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If there was any thread deserving of a bump it would be this one.

Can anyone remember a team going from that hot to this cold in a blink of a eye? Very good, (and timely), call Feddz

Yeah, that was perfect forecasting. Rangers went to shit in a big way.
 

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Thanks for the shout-out fellas. I had always intended to do a follow-up post, especially in the event that the Rangers' luck dramatically turned, which it clearly did.

A reminder of the Rangers' stats on the morning of November 25:
Goal
DateTeamPDORankOsh%Osv%CF%RankSC%RankSOSWin %GPRecordDiff
After Game 21NYR107.1111.096.147.22745.7302912116-3-2+27

Since my original post, this is what the Rangers' numbers look like:
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DateTeamPDORankOsh%Osv%CF%RankSC%RankSOSWin %GPRecordDiff
Next 15 gamesNYR96.3297.289.048.2204625154-9-2-16

So the total is:
Goal
DateTeamPDORankOsh%Osv%CF%RankSC%RankSOSWin %GPRecordDiff
TotalNYR102.619.593.147.72245.8272883620-12-4+11


Biggest takeaways? Firstly, the Rangers weren't good then, and they aren't good now. Obviously not even I thought that their PDO would crater the way it did right after my post, and as a result it makes me look a lot more clever than I really am. Mostly it was just dumb luck and flukey timing. Nonetheless, there was a ton of dough to be won fading the hell out of the Rangers in the last month, as they won only 4 out of 15 games despite being a favourite in most of them. I didn't blindly fade, which was clearly a mistake, but I definitely faded them a lot.

Secondly, the Rangers STILL have the highest PDO in the league. Second is still Ottawa at 102.1. At least now though, their PDO is in the realm of realistic/sustainable and out of the historic/generational region. But the Rangers are still getting caved in on a nightly basis in terms of possession. I actually thought we'd see a bit of an uptick by now, since they do have a lot of good players. But they're still really bad, and while their CF% has gone up a little, their SC% hasn't moved, which is more significant/telling/worrying if you're a Rangers fan. They could still improve in this area, but every week that goes by makes it less and less likely.

Could the Rangers even miss the playoffs? It seems impossible given where they were, and due to the historical odds of teams in playoff position at this stage, but in reality they are only 5 points up on 9th-place New Jersey, who have a game in hand. Plus there are still perennial contenders like PIT and TBL on the outside looking in. On the plus side, the Rangers are second in the conference! I don't think Vigneault is sleeping well these days, and he shouldn't be. If Henrik should ever get hurt a la Carey Price, then look out.

After the first 21 games the Rangers were on pace for 133 points, and while I don't think anyone actually expected them to get that many, my little O/U side-bet with Vic looked shaky at best with the total set at 110. As of today, the Rangers are on pace for 100 points, and this despite one of the easiest schedules in the league, and playing a high percentage of their games at home thus far. Obviously this bet is by no means in the bag for me, and I'm not picking on Vic since I think a ton of people would have made that friendly wager, but I still think the Rangers are a playoff bubble team, and potentially worse if they don't change their player usage (cough cough Girardi) and systems. Actually, if Girardi stays hurt it might be the best trade they make all year, as he is among the 5 worst defencemen in the league who takes a regular shift, and that's ignoring his albatross contract.


In closing:

This is a team that has had one of the luckiest first halfs imaginable despite the recent struggles, and they still might be tooth and nail to make the playoffs. Lundqvist is STILL almost a full percentage point over his career average EV SV%, and their PP is top-5 and PK top-10. Their PDO is tops by a chunk and CF% and SCF% are among the worst in the league and don't seem to be improving. The Rangers likely won't play 55 pt pace hockey the rest of the way (as they have for the last 15 games), but it's certainly not unreasonable to think they'll play .500 from now until the end of the season. If they do, they'll finish with ~90 points and miss the playoffs. Probably unlikely, and I'll look like an idiot if they go on a big run now, but how many of you out there think the Rangers are a lock to finish with more than 100 points now?


As always comments and criticisms welcome. Merry Christmas!
 

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I'm very late to the party and just read through this thread but it's never too late to show some appreciation. Awesome post(s), Feddz! It's contributions like these that bring value to the forum. Thank you!
 

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That is some serious data.

Rangers are finding ways of getting points but I don't think their team is the real deal at all. Rick Nash is simply not a winner and after that who's really on their team other than Lundqvist?

Either they are serious over achievers or Alaign Vigneault is really that good of a coach taking a team that shouldn't be doing well and consistently getting results.
 

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I'm very late to the party and just read through this thread but it's never too late to show some appreciation. Awesome post(s), Feddz! It's contributions like these that bring value to the forum. Thank you!

Thanks for the kind words and Merry Christmas!
 

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That is some serious data.

Rangers are finding ways of getting points but I don't think their team is the real deal at all. Rick Nash is simply not a winner and after that who's really on their team other than Lundqvist?

Either they are serious over achievers or Alaign Vigneault is really that good of a coach taking a team that shouldn't be doing well and consistently getting results.

I'm actually starting to think that they're a group of good players succeeding in spite of their coach (and thanks to a lot of luck), and that is starting to catch up with them. An absolute TON of their goals come from players making great individual efforts rather than systems producing consistent pressure leading to goals. And defending/player usage are mostly on a coaching staff - 2 areas in which the Rangers are atrocious. Thanks for the post.
 

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Feddz, what number did we use for our $50 side bet on the Rangers? I can’t find the thread.
 

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Surprisingly, since 12/22, the Rangers have recorded points in 17 of their last 24 games, (15-7-2).

They have a tough schedule the rest of the way though.
 

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Awesome stuff Feddz. I love it when you post. My friend is a huge Rangers fan and he cringes when he reads this but he totally agrees with you. He's not too confident in his team this year.
 

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oops sorry guys been off the grid for a bit. Vic, the number we settled on was 110pts for the Rangers. Which is not impossible, but will take a hell of a run to hit. I can try to find the thread later if there's any doubt. I'm not that worried about the money though - fun bets are just that. If they don't hit 110, which is pretty unlikely, just donate the dough to somewhere worthwhile!
 

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Awesome stuff Feddz. I love it when you post. My friend is a huge Rangers fan and he cringes when he reads this but he totally agrees with you. He's not too confident in his team this year.

Yeah, I was fortunate that my analysis was pretty close with respect to the Rangers, but was clearly way off on the Capitals. Having said that, I think the Caps are even more overrated than before, but play in what is just a train-wreck of a conference this year. I mean, they're running away with the President's Trophy, but how many of today's playoff teams would you lay chalk on them beating in the West? I have a list of one: Minnesota. I'll definitely be looking for opportunities to fade them in the playoffs.
 

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Found it Vic and bumped it. "How about those New York Rangers."
Some good talk on the first page too about how legendary the Rangers are.
Again though, if it stays under 110 (I think NYR need to close 14-2 to hit the number) I trust you can find better places for $50 than my wallet.
 

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Appreciate that sentiment Feddz but the way I see it it’s your privilege to choose the charity. Please PM me your pp addy.


.......unless the Rangers run the table. ;)
 

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