When everyone says something is overrated, that would that make it underrated, or at least rated accurately. Being overrated has nothing to do with how good a player is, it has everything to do with peoples perceptions.
Perhaps regular season QB rating isn't worth anything. If people were to look at passer rating and say Dave Krieg was better John Elway, Elway would be extremely underrated. But no one does that. And so few people have ever said Elway was the best ever
douglas, where do you rank Ripken among all shortstops in baseball history?
hno:Big Ben got to his SB's because of his team and coaching staff....
Elway (in the 80's) got to his SB's in spite of his....The fact that they got blown out in all 3 further illustrates just how mediocre those teams were and adds to Elway's lore that he got them there. Go ask the Cleveland Browns and Marty Schottenheimer if Elway was overrated.
I'm not even going to justify the Lomax & Kreig comparison.
Are you under 30 Hines? I'm guessing you only saw him play in the 90's and not the 80's?
He was actually voted in the top 50 players of all time in 1996.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Greatest_Players_in_NBA_History
Scottie was a nobody without being able to eat the crumbs that
fell from the master's table.
Oh, really? What about 1994 when Jordan was playing baseball and Pippen led the Bulls to within one horrendous call of getting to the finals???
And for those who think Elway was overrated, maybe you don't understand that you play the games to WIN. PERIOD. And Elway was one of the greatest winners in the history of sports.
The three most overrated players in sports history are:
1. Julius Erving
2. Dan Fouts
3. Wilt Chamberlain
And shut my mouth for forgetting the most overrated athlete EVER.
MOHAMMAD ALI.
Lost to Frazier, lost to Norton, lost to Spinks. Also lost to Ellis, btw, even though they gave him the win.
Great, yes. But definitely not anywhere near as great as the hype.
MOHAMMAD ALI.
Lost to Frazier, lost to Norton, lost to Spinks. Also lost to Ellis, btw, even though they gave him the win.
Great, yes. But definitely not anywhere near as great as the hype.
Scottie was a good player, but top 50 of all time? Not even close.
A couple of memorable Pippen moments:
1. His refusal to enter the crucial last minutes of a close playoff game
1994 Eastern Conf Semifinals because Phil Jackson drew up a play
for Tony Kukoc and not Pippen.
2. [FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]June 3, 1990: Complaining of migraine headaches, Pippen goes 1-of-10 for just two points as the Bulls are eliminated by the Pistons in Game 7 of the Eastern finals.
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Big Ben got to his SB's because of his team and coaching staff....
Amen to that. Great D's every year. That's why 17 TD's a year is good enough.
[/quote]Elway (in the 80's) got to his SB's in spite of his....The fact that they got blown out in all 3 further illustrates just how mediocre those teams were and adds to Elway's lore that he got them there. Go ask the Cleveland Browns and Marty Schottenheimer if Elway was overrated.
Are you under 30 Hines? I'm guessing you only saw him play in the 90's and not the 80's?[/quote]
Elway did throw a lot of interceptions especially early in his career. I wouldn't call him the greatest, but he was legitimately a top-ten QB of all-time. Dan Reeves crappy offenses held Elway back for 55 minutes, then he'd take the leash off and Elway would do his thing.
If you think Nolan Ryan is over rated, prehaps you don't know as much about baseball as you think you do...
Grab a bat and get in the box... I can promise you that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who actually BATTED against the Express who felt like he was over rated. Oh, there was Robin Ventura but I think we all remembered how that worked out when he had a momentary lapse of sanity and charged the mound.
Nolan Ryan pitched for 27 seasons so he had longevity.
He struck out 5714, an all-time record.
He totaled 324 victories and a host of Major League records. Most notable of his milestones are seven no-hitters and 12 one-hitters.
The eight-time All-Star fanned a single-season record 383 batters in 1973, and his career strikeouts encompassed 1,176 different players. And he got 98.8% of the vote for the HOF.
Of course, you're the same guy who thought Magic Johnson was the second best player in the history of the NBA. So, this is pretty easy to dismiss...
Doc
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