The Most Honest Tout in the last 10 years.

[dusky]

id have to disagree with you, they do post games 15min after the start of the game, but they have been caught changing plays and adding them to there advantage. there might be a few legit services on there but id be very carefull following anyone on there. most of the services that are winning in there top 10 etc is them, they run most of the services on there.

most of them dont have websites, or dont even respond to emails.

make sure you track the service you are looking at for a while and email the person before you join up and actually talk to him/her etc, be on the look out of them changing plays,

just dont want to see any of you waste your $$$$

as alot of people have said dont trust these monitiors, theres only 1-2 that dont lie and change plays.

Freddy, I can prove to you the records are legitimate. Did you know that anyone can be a handicapper on that website? Once the games start, you can't change your picks. When the games are over, you can't delete your losers and you can't add in winners. You know how I know? Because I tried it. I was just playing around and making picks.
Freddy, I want you to try it. You let me know if you can delete your losers and add in winners when the games are over.

 

[Freddygot1]

Freddy, I can prove to you the records are legitimate. Did you know that anyone can be a handicapper on that website? Once the games start, you can't change your picks. When the games are over, you can't delete your losers and you can't add in winners. You know how I know? Because I tried it. I was just playing around and making picks.
Freddy, I want you to try it. You let me know if you can delete your losers and add in winners when the games are over.

i did say that there are some legit cappers on there, i know its hard to believe me but im not making this shit up, ive heard lots of differnet storys and had my own experience there.

the average joe like yourself and me and the next bloke/service who signs up cant change there picks, add or delete there picks im not saying they can, its the people running the website that put up fake services, and they add, change, delete plays to make there "made up service" look good. then you or me or jim down the street thinks shit "this service" is hitting 63% must know what they are on about, il sign up for a year month or what ever, then they will hit 40-50% then onwards.

there is legit services on there, there would have to be, but not all of them are real, thats what im saying,

ive said the service your are intrested in track them very closley, email them and talk to them before you sign up.

if you have found someone good on there, good on you. i just want to get my story out there so people dont get riped off.

 

[mtomto]

i never said you were dishonest, just that people following your plays (especially at forums like this) CAN'T get the lines you release at. that's all that matters to people getting plays from forums like this. the comments i C&P before, were from other people, not me. as far as the lines stabilizing these are total plays i have seen posted.

last night
vcu 140' to 138'
ford 133 to 131'
drexel 118' to 117'
ucsb 138' to 136

2/18
c mich 133' to 131'
ri 154' to 156'
miss 151 to 149'
cal irvine 138 to 137

not as much movement as earlier in the year (many times 5 points), but still movement. a lot of people must be trying to middle these plays, because most of the time the line comes back late. if people want to follow, they should bet late.

That makes sense. WHining about getting and aged, paid play for free. Priceless.

If someone were serious about RASs play, they would be a sunscriber and get his info to make a play immediatly. Expecting the line not to move while you watch the clock tick by and the thing show here for FREE, then crabbing, is ridiculous.


Just like this whole thread. What you guys really want is the Most Honest Capper That Hits 80%. Keep fishing for that one.

 

[printman19]

but does truthful mean winning? It's nice to be truthful, but its just as important to make money right?

 

[RightAngle]

why sell plays (advertise, pay for a website, advertise OS books for kickbacks of the losses, check forums to see what is posted about you, have people shill for you, etc.) when you could just sit back and collect your winnings betting your plays? think about it!

Husker, I am more than happy to discuss any and all issues with you but you aren't going to have any credibility with me or other readers here if you cannot demonstrate an open fair mind in this discussion. So far you appear to be very biased and have an agenda against RAS. Hopefully you will prove me wrong.

This is an age old question, why sell picks when you can just bet them yourself?

For me the answer is simple. Bankrolls, max bet amounts, and reliable outs that last for consistent winners are nowhere near infinite. In fact the latter two are very limited, especially for something like CBB totals.


Edward

 

[PeterGriffin]

why sell plays (advertise, pay for a website, advertise OS books for kickbacks of the losses, check forums to see what is posted about you, have people shill for you, etc.) when you could just sit back and collect your winnings betting your plays? think about it!

I never understand this question, although I hear it all the time. My response would be, why wouldn't you? If you were great at picking stocks, and could make side income giving out stock advice (on top of the money you make buying and selling your own stocks), why wouldn't you do that? What's wrong with supplementary income?

 

[RightAngle]

Very simple answers to all of your statements/questions.

you only had about 40-50 plays all basketball season..

Not sure where you came up with this? Even before the start of the totals service in 2007-08, the CBB service had averaged 125 plays a year the previous eight seasons.

then i guess the same could be said about your clients. how do you expect them to win?

It is easy to find outs with $500-$1000 limits for CBB totals. This makes it quite simple to justify the investment for a single subscription. Replacing all income generated from running the service is an entirely different propisition. I still do not have the necessary bankroll and resources to make such a move.

why doesn't billy walters sell his plays? he makes more money than any service gust betting his plays.

BW has the neccessary bankroll and unmatched resources for getting down.

 

[Club]

why sell plays (advertise, pay for a website, advertise OS books for kickbacks of the losses, check forums to see what is posted about you, have people shill for you, etc.) when you could just sit back and collect your winnings betting your plays? think about it!

this makes absolutely no sense to me. in other words, you are asking: why would anyone want to have two sources of income rather than one? or, when even the best gambler knows there are no locks and losing streaks are inveitable, why would anyone want to diversify and have the certain income that comes from subscribers?

 

[pubguy]

why sell plays (advertise, pay for a website, advertise OS books for kickbacks of the losses, check forums to see what is posted about you, have people shill for you, etc.) when you could just sit back and collect your winnings betting your plays? think about it!

Why do some people survive on commission only pay at their job, while others get a salary? The best deal is salary plus commission and bonuses IMO. They sell their plays because there is a market for them. Simple.

 

[TraderMike]

if someone tried to shop lines when your plays are released, they would have changed already. you even said they change almost immediately. years ago with locals you could shop for good lines, but now with OS books, they are almost all in it together. most people don't have enough money to fund multiple OS accounts.

services and posters use the old "shop for the best line" to justify the extra point or so they get for their plays. you have the real world, and the forum world.

i said at another forum that i would like to see how fading your plays, after the big line move, turns out next year.

I wanted to take this opportunity to interject and say that as an RAS client, I have been satisfied with the level of customer service I have received. I did a lot of research before I chose a tout and decided to go with RAS for the remainder of the CBB season for a plethora of reasons, not least of which was the documented record and strict wagering policy (1 unit two at most.. most touts will just chase with large unit plays to make up for losses.) It can be a pain to get the lines they release, especially on totals, but I have found I am able to get most lines they release if I am quick to the draw (phone method has worked best for me because it seems most books freeze the lines once the rep opens the rotation for you.) It is a cumbersome process, especially on weekends, but one I believe is worth the effort, especially on their totals plays. In fact, I would go as far as saying their totals selections in CBB are worth your investment, but you could pass on the sides plays as they have not shown to be worthy of the investment compared to plays you can get for free on this forum( you can subscribe to only totals btw at RAS). Anyway, that's my two cents on the matter. For what it is worth, I am also considering Mike Lineback due to my own research and feedback on him from different forums I visit. BOL.

 

[TraderMike]

One more thing, if RAS had a heavy interest in seeing their clients lose in order to recieve a percentage of their losses, wouldn't they be releasing many picks every day that they had chosen at random? When in fact, only a few plays are released per day, or none at all. I have no vested interest in RAS outside of the fact that I hope I am right since I am their client and I want them to do well. If I have been duped, which I I took a lot of measures to avoid, I will be the first one on here airing my grievances. There are so may good cappers on this forum for free, like mr MJ and numberz, that I would only consider a tout if they can show me great success over a large period, a constraint which I believe the RAS totals plays meet.

 

[ForeverAGF]

Just wanted to share my experience with Unit Play Sports.
After being a member for a month or so I was accused for posting picks on forums (or selling them) which I have NEVER done. Then I was put on a special list which lost big time. I don't know if it was a bad excuse for losing but their promotion mails told something different than the picks I received. I got really angry but they just told me "we have our reasons" :think2:.

After some time they wrote that I was cleared and put me on a special list where they would help me and some others to build up the bankroll after the massive loss. Then they fucking cheated me (and the others on the special list) once again and were down almost 2000 units!!! Fortunately I stopped betting because they started to use 200 unit games for some kind of chase.

Then they put me on their Platinum Plus membership but after a few weeks they stopped sending out mails and I have written a lot of mails to them without one single answer.

I just wanted to prevent others from joining their CRAP-SERVICE! Also they haven't updated their website for a couple of months or so.

Has anyone else been screwed by them or do they still send out mails to somebody?

Thanks.

 

[Jetplane]

I had to read this when I saw the headline rofl... sorry for the jew-ing though.

 

[CityChicken]

Husky you get banned almost as much as me, what did you say/do this time? I still got ya beat tho, I have a lifetime ban because of that cross dressing queer :finger:

 

[CityChicken]

funny thing is that some guys over there would say "the little kids across the street" and its over there where you get all the drama, You got this mod posting bullshit plays for kicks and another mod banning someone for speaking the truth or telling it like it is.. He needs to clean house sorta speak.. Too many wanabe's with agenda's over there.. At least most of the guys here at the rx try to help 1 another as best they can without all that extra bullshit.. jmo welcome back! <><>