The Most Honest Tout in the last 10 years.

[fraser411]

I can say without question Mike Lineback is as honest as anyone could be in this business. I have been with him for over 3 years. He wins every year. When he is on a cold streak, he makes no excuses. He tells you where his strengths are. He decided not to handicap NCAA basketball this year. He thought that it hurt his NBA and MLB handicapping.

His football this year was as good a year as anyone could have possibley imagined. He is the only person I will pay and play every NFL selection that he has.

You are missing out on something special if you are not a Mike Lineback client.

I am not a schill for Lineback. I am merely a loyal follower.

And to boot, he is a better person than he is a handicapper.

 

[printman19]

I knew that sleavy bastard Larry Ness would claim a push on the Rockets last night so he wouldn't have to take the O'fer. Anyone get a push?

Either way, it doesn't cover his inabilities the last three nights:

<TABLE class=data id=hcPicks_tblHandicapperPicks cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=datahead width="17%">Date </TD><TD class=datahead width="10%">W/L</TD><TD class=datahead width="15%">Sport</TD><TD class=datahead width="48%">Pick</TD><TD class=datahead align=right width="10%">Units</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Push</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>Houston Rockets</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>N/A</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Nebraska </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/24/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>San Diego State </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/23/09</TD><TD class=datacell>WIN</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>Utah Jazz</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>700</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/23/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>New York Knicks</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-770</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>WIN</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Duke </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>700</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NBA</TD><TD class=datacell>under (BOS at PHO)</TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-990</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Ohio State </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-880</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datacell>02/22/09</TD><TD class=datacell>Loss</TD><TD class=datacell>NCAAB</TD><TD class=datacell>Syracuse </TD><TD class=datacell align=right>-770</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


I have a few books and they all locked in at 4 1/2 and it never moved.
As did scores and odds:

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 summary="" border=0><THEAD><TR class=section_heading><TD colSpan=5>Complete Listing of Lines/Odds</TD></TR><TR class=section_heading><TD colSpan=5>PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS @ HOUSTON ROCKETS</TD></TR><TR class="game_heading bottom"><TH class=first scope=col>Time</TH><TH scope=col>Pointspread</TH><TH scope=col>Total</TH><TH scope=col>Away ML</TH><TH class=last scope=col>Home ML</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 12:29 PM EST </TD><TD>off </TD><TD>off </TD><TD>off </TD><TD class=last>off </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 3:53 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 -05 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 3:57 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 -02 </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:03 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>192.5u10 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:05 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191.5u10 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 4:07 PM EST </TD><TD>HOUSTON ROCKETS -4.5 </TD><TD>192 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 5:43 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/23/2009 7:57 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>191 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:05 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+165 </TD><TD class=last>-175 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:35 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 9:43 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+168 </TD><TD class=last>-178 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 11:03 AM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>+170 </TD><TD class=last>-200 </TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 12:31 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 6:02 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>189.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class=first>02/24/2009 6:32 PM EST </TD><TD></TD><TD>190 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Ness should declare it a loss, IC had it as a loss as well. Ness is really starting to piss me off because he is losing and keeping shady records.

 

[mrstein]

SO FAR SO GOOD......................

When you post a New tout please inclose thier website also. Lets try and keep this thread clean and not a lot of garbage.

In other words post your tout the resaons why and lets move on to the next one.

There have been some suprises in regards to some of the touts mentioned as a couple of them are not readly known or their plays never show up on this forum.

Intresting..................

 

[TheCuban]

My tout is Teddyjune.com which I pay for. IC's and Budins' picks I get here. What ever you decide pick one or two cappers and follow them everyday if you pick and chose Touts one day and not the next you will lose. Good Luck. I would pay for IC and Budin but my bankroll is not large enough.

 

[OJS#32buff]

is he monitored somewhere?

check THE OKLAHOMA SPORTS MONITOR they go through year by year in each sport. you will find BOSTON BOB near the top in almost everything.they also have web site and phone numbers

 

[HaoleLama]

NC ncaa football is very average, you will lose over time with those plays. his nfl has a 10 YEAR WINNING RECORD at TSM. that is incredible, and i don't believe any other service can beat that. 3 losing seasons over that stretch. like EVERY service, NC is deceptive in their marketing, so be careful.

i think all northcoast 3* should be avoided as they are break even , the 4* and 5* on football have won for me
in 2007 their bowls were amazing, 2008 it was avg;

the power sweep newsletter is a useful tool for capping; i thought his nfl was a bit mediocre this year as he picked a lot of predictable late season chalk

 

[TheCuban]

teddyjune.com has his record posted on his website and it is accurate/updated within a day or two. I monitor him everyday as he builds my bank roll LOL. I am going to check this Boston BoB guy out sounds pretty good.

 

[ArizonaBound]

i know guys that have followed TJ for years and his record is accurate as far as it is posted. Like most others, he has ommitted some things that he doesn't want you to see, but he does have a proven track record of winning over time.
DO NOT TRUST SPORTS MONITORS UNLESS THEY POST ALL GAMES SOON AFTER THEY START. Any monitor that posts results after the games are over have lied and will lie for the right price/person. I would trust someone opinion on the forums before I would any monitor. Of course if they aren't an obvious shill.

 

[SayHeyKid]

The most honest tout, hands down, Stu "The Source" Feiner.

 

[RightAngle]

Felt I needed to respond to some of the inaccurate and hugely biased statements made by Husker about RAS in this thread.

Because of the influence RAS plays have on the market, especially with CBB totals, I am often accused of releasing and grading with lines that are not available. This is far from the truth. The reason the lines move so much so fast is because of the past success of the plays, the number of large bettors who follow them, and the volatility of the CBB totals market.

Every line used is 100% widely available at time of release. In fact, I typically will use a line that is a 1/2 point worse than what is available. For example, if there are four 134's and three 134.5's, I will use the 134.5 for and Over play and use the 134 for an Under play. This can all be confirmed by simply viewing the line history for any of the plays.

Line movement is an issue, especially in November and December, and it admittedly is not easy to place wagers at the release line during these months. I have warnings in red text regarding this right on the order page of my website. It takes lots of experimenting and preparation to optimize your results, but most people will say that it is worth the trouble for 60%+ plays. As mentioned by another poster, even if you got the worst line on every total this year you would still be well into the positive (Roughly +10 units instead of +43 units). Most users would likely fall somewhere inbetween those two numbers. Now that we are deep into February the market has stablizied to the point that everyone can get the release number or very close to it on the majority of plays.

As for honest records, all of our plays are monitored at a third party site (TrackPicks) as well as posted on our website 10 minutes after the start of each game for full transparency.

In an industry that is made up of mostly dishonest individuals, we go out of are way to be different. Not just do we focus on college sports only, but we even end the college football service after 8 weeks to focus exclusively on college basketball. An unprecedented move in this industry that shows we care about finding an edge, not sales and marketing. We use a conservative rating system (1.0 UNIT is what it should be, an average size wager) so we do not misleadingly inflate our unit totals like most services do. We are a standalone site that does not focus promotions on short term records, or on the one sport that happens to be "hot" at the time. We strive to make the service as convenient as possible with features such as text messaging of plays and our new web countdown release page which insures equal and reliable access to plays. Despite outperforming nearly all competitors our subscription rates remain well below industry averages.

I will be more than happy to address any other questions or comments.

If anyone would like to try the totals service free for a night, just e-mail me at info@handicapper.net.

Good luck,


Edward

 

[garybertier23]

hey guys have you guys got cheddarbobs picks at spread consultants...well I've been following him for about a couple weeks now and hes been doing great for me..trust me its worth the money he'll seriously win you some seriusly money.. but i think you guys should atleast give him a try for a couple of days atleast...like i said I've been up pretty good in the last couple of weeks I've been following him..

 

[TheCuban]

Is there a legitimate sports monitor?

 

[mrstein]

I have to admit its nice to see a Rep for one of the capping services actually reply to this thread.

I do agree that their are a lot of bullshiters out there in Cyper tout world,I think the biggest problem is finding a Tout service that can WIN over the long hual.

What is defined as Wiining at least 53-56 % over 1000 plays.With a proper money mangement in place, if one can find such a Service that can produce these results as above you can Win a lot of money Long-term.

There are 2 keys to winning with Sports.

1 Proper money mangement and I mean Strict.

2 Picking the correct side of the games.

Added Bonus........... Consistence is the Key.

Sports wagering for long-term winnings is like going to your favorite resturant. You go there because the Food is Good each and every time.

Show me a long-term winning Tout service and I will show you a bettor that is a Happy Guy :}}}}

 

[RightAngle]

Husker:

As I stated, I know it is not always easy to place wagers at the RAS release line but it definitely can be done with proper know how and preparation. However, anyone relying on a third party source such as a forum definitely would not be able to beat the initial line movement which comes seconds from release. I agree with you that once you miss the initial line movement in most cases it is best to wait until closer to game time before wagering. As with any betting, timing and shopping for best numbers is critical for best results.

MrStein:

As for consistency RAS has won 453 of our last 791 college basketball picks (sides & totals combined) dating back to the start of the 2006-07 season. That is good for a 57.2% clip.


Edward

 

[mrstein]

Edward

Once again I think by you coming on here and posting alone shows Merit at least to myself !!!!!!

As I stated for a true capper/Tout service to be considered Top notch Min 1000 plays need to be logged and shown as 54% + in winnings.

The question remains can your serivce do this with ALL SPOTS PLAYED over a course of Long-term ????

Yes your Basketball numbers are nice $$$$ however if you just issolate you BB Plays and not anything else its still a skewed number. IE 1 SPORT........

Reason why Your service plays most sports.

What is your TOTAL WINNINGS over all sports with a 1000 plays ???????????

Show me over 55% and You are a SOLID SERVICE ..........

Stein

 

[RightAngle]

Good point, however as I stated above we only do college sports, and only cover the first 8 weeks of college football before focusing exclusively on college basketball.

Going back to the start of 2005-06 season and including football (4 full football seasons and 3+ basketball seasons) the the service has won 640 out of 1132 plays going into tonight for a 56.53% clip on well over 1000 plays.


Edward

 

[RightAngle]

Husker:

As we both have agreed, if you miss the initial line movement it is best to wait for the line to settle as it usually gets bet back at some point before game time. This is when shopping and timing is important. Having multiple accounts its only a requirement if you are interested in optimizing your results, regardless if you use RAS, another service, or bet your own plays. Shopping and timing is critical for any kind of betting.

As I noted, the lines we use for grading are typically a 1/2 point WORSE than what is available at time of release, so I am not trying to "justify" anything.

You are welcome to track the fading of total plays after the line moves. I can tell you this much, it would be a big loser all of this year and all of last year.


Edward

 

[dusky]

Is there a legitimate sports monitor?

usasportsmonitor.net is a legitimate sports monitor. They show their picks 15 minutes after the games start so you can track their picks.

 

[mrstein]

I think pounding on Edward is not going to get any of us anywhere ???

At least he has the guts to come on here and represent himself and his company,as far as line movement that Quick the only known capper over the last few years that actually moves lines that fast and they would not settle back was Dr Bob ESP a couple of year ago.When his football would release you litlerally had about 30 seconds and that line would move 1to 3 points that fast.

nothing against Right Angle I just dont know that his overall record justify"s line movement that fast ????

Stein

 

[Freddygot1]

usasportsmonitor.net is a legitimate sports monitor. They show their picks 15 minutes after the games start so you can track their picks.

id have to disagree with you, they do post games 15min after the start of the game, but they have been caught changing plays and adding them to there advantage. there might be a few legit services on there but id be very carefull following anyone on there. most of the services that are winning in there top 10 etc is them, they run most of the services on there.

most of them dont have websites, or dont even respond to emails.

make sure you track the service you are looking at for a while and email the person before you join up and actually talk to him/her etc, be on the look out of them changing plays,

just dont want to see any of you waste your $$$$

as alot of people have said dont trust these monitiors, theres only 1-2 that dont lie and change plays.