I was reading that the first half of the B10/Fox deal is bad news for the B12. It's 25 football games for Fox and FS1. I read that Fox only has to broadcast 6 B12 games a year. That sounds like less tv exposure, possibly being bumped down the network hierarchy.
This looks like bad news for the Big 12. All I can say at this point is I hope all of the Big 12 fans have FS2 and FSN in their cable packages, because a game like Kansas St/Texas Tech could and probably will be bumped from FS1 by say a mediocre Big 10 game between Minnesota/Illinois. There goes more Big 12 exposure. If this doesn't push the Big 12 into expansion to secure enough TV sets and start a Big 12 Network, then nothing will. The Big 12 just keeps dragging their feet while the big get bigger...You know what they say, "he who hesitates"...
Id much rather see Kansas and Oklahoma go to the Big Ten. It scratches a big bbal itch and strokes the Big Ten's fascination with rivalry games (OU-NU, obviously, but NU-KU was the longest running rivalry until 2012). I do believe the OU AD's options list has the SEC down a ways. He's fancying things beyond athletics and the B10 has the grant $.
I agree about Texas. Basically the reason for it is OU President David Boren. I think he lost his manhood a long time ago. For what it's worth, there is nobody that would like to get out from under Texas than me and about 90% of the OU fans. They can't stand Boren and wish he would retire. But I think our AD Castiglione is finally getting through to him, judging by the things he has said in the past few months it looks like Boren is setting up the league so we can exit with minimal fallout to OU. but there are a lot of politics involved when it comes to a Blueblood program moving to another conference. Most people think it's easy. But you can't just big dick your way into another conference whenever you feel like it. If moving to the Pac-12 or Big was that easy Boren would have done it a long time ago. There are many many factors to consider besides football or sports in general.
GS,
Report are that it takes 75% of the members to approve expansion. Apparently TEXAS does not want expansion and has it's lackies (Tx Tech, Baylor and TCU) to vote along the same lines. Texas does not want another split of revenue. Does not sound like expansion will happen unless someone is able to convince Texas to change it's tune or convince the other Texas schools to flip their votes.
Hopefully Boren will look to the Big10 or the PAC12 and make the move that he should have made over 4+ years ago. PAC12 wants to get into the central time zone as well as getting the DirecTV deal and that might help them.
WinOne!!
Report are that it takes 75% of the members to approve expansion. Apparently TEXAS does not want expansion and has it's lackies (Tx Tech, Baylor and TCU) to vote along the same lines. Texas does not want another split of revenue. Does not sound like expansion will happen unless someone is able to convince Texas to change it's tune or convince the other Texas schools to flip their votes.
Hopefully Boren will look to the Big10 or the PAC12 and make the move that he should have made over 4+ years ago. PAC12 wants to get into the central time zone as well as getting the DirecTV deal and that might help them.
WinOne!!
I read this yesterday. I hate to say it, but I find no plausible way this conference can get better. And any of these mid majors that are added to the conference only dilutes what we already have. I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping when the time is right OU jumps ship first. There's nothing I would like to see more than the looks on Texas faces when/if it happens. That's my wish, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Texas made the first move and got out. Even though it would probably cost them the LHN. It's just the kind of assholes they can be..
What's funny is LHN is losing money for ESPN. They are far, far in the hole. However, they have to pay UT. Serves ESPN right for enticing UT to stay tethered to the B12 and prevent the PAC12 from adding the teams. Texas is in the catbirds seat. I feel for the rest of the B12 (other than OU/OSU) because at anytime UT can bolt and the B12 would implode. Texas is making money hand over fist in this deal, gotta love it. Scary thing is they are making all this $$$ and they have a horrible product on the field. Imagine what their revenues would be like if they were rolling like the VY or Colt McCoy days.
Hypothesizing....if they add cincy and byu, doesnt everyone now get less?
or does that somehow allow them to restructure their deals since they expanded the number of TVs?
I doubt 99% of the Texas fans care if the LHN stays or goes. hence why ESPN is losing money. Give Texas a bigger share for losing the LHN and get a Big12 network and move on.
I'd rather see a big splash and try to pull away a Cincy, BYU, Memphis, Houston...and then some bigger fish like FSU and Clemson.
Eh....i dont follow this close enough to comment but it's more interesting to follow than the next 28 point NBA blowout or anything MLB.
or does that somehow allow them to restructure their deals since they expanded the number of TVs?
I doubt 99% of the Texas fans care if the LHN stays or goes. hence why ESPN is losing money. Give Texas a bigger share for losing the LHN and get a Big12 network and move on.
I'd rather see a big splash and try to pull away a Cincy, BYU, Memphis, Houston...and then some bigger fish like FSU and Clemson.
Eh....i dont follow this close enough to comment but it's more interesting to follow than the next 28 point NBA blowout or anything MLB.
It's the "give Texas a bigger share than everybody else" part that isn't going over very well with the other schools. Which has pretty much been the problem all along...I'm assuming that if the Big 12 adds two more teams there will have been some kind of renegotiation with the contract. But if Fox doesn't go along with it, I doubt if it will ever happen. Nobody wants a smaller slice of pie...
Seems like that is the only way they would part with the LHN, according to sources. Sounds like they will strongarm TCU and Tech to keep the expansion from happening (needs 8 votes). Money isn't the concern, they don't want to lose the "LHN branding"....ha ha. Shows how disconnected the egomaniacs are. ESPN is losing it's ass cause nobody watches and they are worried about branding. There will be no expansion. Texas is willing to force Oklahoma's hand if need be. They probably don't think OU would do it, and even if they did, "We're Texas, everybody wants us." Pocket Aces and one up the sleeve.
