I think a lot of diff things could play out before expansion with those teams above....with a conf championship now in big12, the added revenue it doesn't make sense to advance with those teams above....then with big tv deal coming up, will they sit back and not add?....then with no acc tv deal do others members start to look as they fall farther behind in revenue to sec.....then is Arkansas really happy in sec? Happy money wise yes, but the teams haven't won anything...could they be a candidate with sec type money by going back to big12?.... And are the Arizona schools really happy in the pac? Games on late at night, and pac 12 money is thought to be as high as before.
Well, I pretty much feel the same way. The pickens are pretty thin out there. If I had a choice I would probably go with the Florida schools UCF and USF. Big schools with a big alumni base and recruiting area. Neither of those schools are sexy or elite picks, but they have a lot of future potential. More than these other schools. Watching Michigan and others doing all they can to get into Florida and tap that areas talent pool only shows the benefit of getting into Florida as a conference. Right now it looks like the flavor of the month is Cincinnati. They are really wanting in. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/02/13/inside-ucs-bid-join-big-12/80280488/
I don't hate Ole Miss any more than any other program that isn't named Oklahoma. I also don't care if they cheat, as long as it's not in Big 12 territory and taking recruits out of Texas and away from OU. Like I said before, I'm always very suspicious when a very mediocre program is suddenly going into unfamiliar recruiting territory and pulling 4 and 5 star players. I can see a Bama or an Ohio State doing it because of their name. But Ole Miss brings up red flags with me...
Cincinnati would be a nice addition. They can move past that "mid-major" tag, and have fielded fine programs in the top sports for decades (on and off like most teams of course). The trick is finding a 12th school, which SHOULD have been Louisville but the Big 12 was too slow. BYU will always be controversial. UConn is not geographically correct, but brings a basketball X2 presence. I'd look long and hard at Memphis, another "mid-major" who may stay a bit too low by Big 12 standards but they have loads of alumni $$$ and are currently riding a two sport high.
The only other recourse (sorry ucf, usf) is poaching, which is much harder these days.
The only other recourse (sorry ucf, usf) is poaching, which is much harder these days.
The B-12 would do well to rob the west coast.
I think both Fresno and Nevada could become competitive. They would open up new
markets in an entirely new part of the country for the B-12. The popularity will be there.
Perhaps Colo. St. could integrate and Air Force Acad. might increase the conference's
national appeal. None of those 4 carry a price such as what BYU would bring.
Just thinking some things through.
I think both Fresno and Nevada could become competitive. They would open up new
markets in an entirely new part of the country for the B-12. The popularity will be there.
Perhaps Colo. St. could integrate and Air Force Acad. might increase the conference's
national appeal. None of those 4 carry a price such as what BYU would bring.
Just thinking some things through.
I would take CSU, Fresno or Air Force before I would take some of these other schools who have been mentioned for the Big 12 like Houston or SMU. The last thing I want in this conference is another Texas team. I don't think BYU will ever be able to overcome their religious principals of not playing on Sunday. If they were to join a conference, it will be because the conference caved and not BYU.
If the Big 12 brass is truly serious about improving this conference and keeping it together, they would pay FSU and Clemson's exit fees and dump TLN for a conference network. Adding those two schools would easily make the Big 12 the second best conference in football. I think they should go big or let everybody go their separate ways.
Yes, but myopia will make sure this never happens. Somebody *hint,hint* will have to take a pay cut to make this happen. These two buyouts would surely be more than when Maryland exited. You are talking the top draws of that conference, which I believe gets the worst payout of all P5's. It seems a huge investment to me; an opportunity that already went. Im not even sure if adding those two programs could even potentially close the growing $ gap of the SEC/B10 payday train. Thats just a guess, though.
I dont know what the answer is, but if they can break into a market with talent with a bad team, that might be the best deal for the Big 12 at least getting better on field....see Rutgers
After their court settlement, Maryland got out for $32 million. If the Big 12 can get FSU and Clemson for a similar fee, then it's possible. Not probable, but possible. I think the biggest obstacle for the Big 12 getting those two schools isn't the money, but the sales pitch to bring them in. I would like to hear that pitch. "Come to the Big 12 and fight for supremacy with OU and Texas. And guess what, you get to go to Ames and Manhattan for games every 8 years, yay!" I don't think the potential for bigger money alone would compel either of those two schools to make a move. Now if the deal included bringing in Notre Dame too (as if), then it becomes much more than a possibility.
Texas is making more tv money than just about everyone. While ESPN is losing its ass, Texa$ gets a cool 12 mil or so from 3 tier rights. They arent going to make any contractual changes, unless it means more money. Get that part hashed out and they might sign off on the last 15 years, otherwise they'll ride the conference all the way to Hades.
Well, sounds like half of this mega-deal is in...time for the, soon to be, have-nots starting to think how they can get in....
If Ourand’s reporting is accurate, the Big Ten will sell half of its rights package to Fox for up to $250 million per year — which would divide out to a cool $17.86 million per school. And that’s with the other half still up for bid to ESPN, CBS, NBC or whomever.
We’ll see where the final numbers come out, but it seems almost certain that Big Ten schools will soon be banking more than $30 million per year — a number that doesn’t even include what the conference makes off the Big Ten Network and digital rights. When it’s all said and done, it could be a $40 million distribution.
If Ourand’s reporting is accurate, the Big Ten will sell half of its rights package to Fox for up to $250 million per year — which would divide out to a cool $17.86 million per school. And that’s with the other half still up for bid to ESPN, CBS, NBC or whomever.
We’ll see where the final numbers come out, but it seems almost certain that Big Ten schools will soon be banking more than $30 million per year — a number that doesn’t even include what the conference makes off the Big Ten Network and digital rights. When it’s all said and done, it could be a $40 million distribution.
