The 2015 RX Posters LVH "Style" NFL Super Contest ($150 Post Up ) (117 Entries.. $17550 Pot)

[ML Dog]

and it might get noticed by........ NY TIMES, WSJ, USA TODAY, & DRF.

Oh it will get noticed. No way it doesn't. Imagine how many guys can't afford LVH, ain't comfy with the Proxy need or just assume they can't play cuz they ain't in Vegas. 150 dollars ain't shit for 4+ Months of entertainment trying to prove your The Best and pocket a bunch of cash from The Original & 1st Online Internet Sports Forum.

If any of those publications do mention this Contest though they better also mention the long History of RX or Ken will vaporize their offices with a lightning bolt form the sky.

 

[celticGreen+]

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[halekulani]

we have 36 paid ppl right now and this dude arguing about being behind some 8k prize pool when about 38 ppl had signed up last yr

deadlines are deadlines. no matter how you cut it, some drama will always come with the deadlines. remember the dude who had his house flooded or some shit year1 or year2? leveling the playing field, especially at the end of the year where seeing top cappers' picks do matter should be a priority.

lvh continued to grow even though their deadline is the same. the argument about the deadline being the reason why there aren't as many ppl signed up is anecdotal as the reason is most likely multifactorial. until the season starts, you can't argue it now. and even if the season did start with less than 100 ppl signed up, it's still left to be proven as it is merely a one time coincidence.


if you want a bigger prize pool, you increase the buy-in. it's probably easier to increase the buy-in by 33%/$50 than to increase the # of contestants by 33.

 

[JOH]

powerz entered twice - check your PM

 

[ML Dog]

we have 36 paid ppl right now and this dude arguing about being behind some 8k prize pool when about 38 ppl had signed up last yr

deadlines are deadlines. no matter how you cut it, some drama will always come with the deadlines. remember the dude who had his house flooded or some shit year1 or year2? leveling the playing field, especially at the end of the year where seeing top cappers' picks do matter should be a priority.

lvh continued to grow even though their deadline is the same. the argument about the deadline being the reason why there aren't as many ppl signed up is anecdotal as the reason is most likely multifactorial. until the season starts, you can't argue it now. and even if the season did start with less than 100 ppl signed up, it's still left to be proven as it is merely a one time coincidence.


if you want a bigger prize pool, you increase the buy-in. it's probably easier to increase the buy-in by 33%/$50 than to increase the # of contestants by 33.

None of what I posted was due to concern about the number of entrants thus far. Last I saw Hilton was 288 a couple of Days ago, about 11AM...about the same as last year on Aug 11 at 11 AM. A wee bit ahead maybe.

Concern that the new Deadline had dampened entries thus far was not what I meant to imply. I meant that a lessened Deadline might result in less entries when all is said and done, longer deadline could equate to more entries & higher Pirize Pool, more Traffic to website. Thats All.

I totally believe that entry #'s will be the highest yet this year. Whatever the Deadline.

You're right though. All antecdotal. Keeping the Reduced Deadline is winning the Poll now anyways. To my surprise, having predicted a Reagan-like Landslide Vote for later Deadline.

It just goes to show....you think you know what you know but you don't know. You Know?

You meaning...me. Not You. Well You in that last part, the "You Know?" part but not You in the you know what you know part. :toast:

 

[TheComputerGroup]

This is done exactly like the Hilton contest in Vegas except for the extra perks like last several weeks of season with better record wins extra bonus.......having a later deadline so people can see what the real contest has is stupid IMO.....

Our contest is only $150, 10% of what the Vegas contest is, & if the early deadline discourages the handicopiers of entering, who cares.

I rather pay $500 to the RX contest & have less people & a 2pm deadline.......

 

[ML Dog]

I rather pay $500 to the RX contest & have less people & a 2pm deadline.......

Thats where its evolving to and fine by me as well.

Likely there will eventually be 2 separate contests. What you describe: RX Whale Tank $500 which mirrors LVH Exactly including Deadline and a separate $150 contest with later deadline.

And if RX is REALLY smart they'll do what was suggested before in this thread and have a 3rd Contest, Free Entry for everyone where Prize is Free LVH Entry to following year's contest. Get 5Dimes to pay for it or DSI

Much of this uproar thats led to earlier Deadline is over CH Ballers accomplishing a WIN % FAR above any Win % that was ever done in LVH Contest's long history and is likely to never be done again.

Who are the copycats gonna copy this year? CH Ballers after they've gone Tout? You suppose they're gonna release plays that they'll use in Contest to their competitors?

CH Ballers going Tout is disappointing, to put it Mildly but understandable. I don't blame them. The Lure is too great.

Bet All Sports, the guy with that weird cat as his avatar here has a 55% Win % over 234 LVH Contest picks.

Copycats should consider copying him.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

If the RX gave away a free $1,500 entry to the Vegas contest, I think that would bring in a lot more people to this site.......

Like the poker sites use to do, give away entries to the $10,000 world series of poker......I think people got in those by cheap satellites as well.

Again, it depends if they want to get really big.......maybe they like the site just as it is, I know I do.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

IMO, CH Ballers are a group of very intelligent guys that used their math skills to cap the games & did very well 76% & destroyed everyone else & won......

They're probably not betting on their own games, hence going tout.....I could be wrong by I doubt it.

Touts don't usually bet their own games, & that means their not making a living off their pucks unless they're selling them.

Will be interesting to see how well they do this year, because its super hard to repeat, & I don't think they will repeat as champs.

 

[ML Dog]

If the RX gave away a free $1,500 entry to the Vegas contest, I think that would bring in a lot more people to this site.......

Like the poker sites use to do, give away entries to the $10,000 world series of poker......I think people got in those by cheap satellites as well.

Again, it depends if they want to get really big.......maybe they like the site just as it is, I know I do.

Yes and this could even get done this year....plenty of time & $1500 for a Book to have their name on THAT...account with Book required?

Book would have to be Brain Dead not to jump on that...while salivating.

I know they'd ruminate upon demading a Deposit for entry but I'd hope they'd not demand that the Inaugural Season cuz if they didn't it'd get Max Entries & more deposits anyway IMO at least.

If it were a TOTALLY FREE Contest. At least for the first 2, 3 years. So it could get Known. No Deposit Required would equal bigger contest, maximum possible entries.

This would give RX something along the lines of BTP. Maybe even bigger?

Sponsor could always demand Entry Fee Year 3 of Contest. That'd be the Best Strategy. This could cause Traffic to RX to BLOW UP and possibly get that additional 55 entrants I want to see in the 150 Buy In.

We could sneak in mention of it at other Forums. Just repost after they took it down....snuck in well, mention of the contest would not get taken down quickly.

All a matter of whether those captaining RX Ship now wanna see Massive Traffic to the site, like you say, maybe not. Maybe that brings bad stuff I'm not aware of, headaches only Admin would know.

 

[ML Dog]

IMO, CH Ballers are a group of very intelligent guys that used their math skills to cap the games & did very well 76% & destroyed everyone else & won......

They're probably not betting on their own games, hence going tout.....I could be wrong by I doubt it.

Touts don't usually bet their own games, & that means their not making a living off their pucks unless they're selling them.

Will be interesting to see how well they do this year, because its super hard to repeat, & I don't think they will repeat as champs.

The Key Point is that this reaction thats lead to the reduced Deadline and guy's anger over CopyCats is cuz of that 76% thats never ever gonna happen again. Simple Statistical Probabilities and Truths relating to that when combined with a look at Previous results over the long history of LVH Contest dictate that to be a Truth.

Deadline got reduced, in part at least, due to a complete Anomaly happening like all 15 Home Teams winning on the same day in MLB...going 15-0.

happens one time within the life of a Solar System.

CopyCats are gonna copy based on that 76% Anomaly and they're gonna Crash and Burn. All this was much ado about Nothing to quell CopyCats that would have Crashed & Burned anyway...behind Leeching.

 

[skoda]

Everyone is thinking on same topic I'm sure BAS will consider. I hope he is the 1st to act on this idea as other Forum Leads read Rx as often as we browse. Never thought of an Entry into the big one from a sponsor plus the Rx cash prize to the winner! Could be a travel issue but can get someone from Vegas involved? This is growing, like WSP and Rx can be lead. Maybe BetDSI will get on board? The FREE contest should get at least 100 sign-ups with a free shot at an entry. Include those also who are signed up in this years RxLVH also if they like another chance for a entry for 2016.... Other's?

 

[skoda]

sharky99

RX Wizard

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08-06-2015, 11:19 AM

It s all good, made some great friends through this whole process over the years thats more important to me than anything else, sounds like they will try to eliminate the proxy thing down the road and put it online somehow but Im not sure how they will do that with Nevada Gaming. I was told they will be pushing for that in the near future.

Everything will be just a click away as on-line gambling will be. No ifs ants or buts
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[ML Dog]

Everyone is thinking on same topic I'm sure BAS will consider. I hope he is the 1st to act on this idea as other Forum Leads read Rx as often as we browse. Never thought of an Entry into the big one from a sponsor plus the Rx cash prize to the winner! Could be a travel issue but can get someone from Vegas involved? This is growing, like WSP and Rx can be lead. Maybe BetDSI will get on board? The FREE contest should get at least 100 sign-ups with a free shot at an entry. Include those also who are signed up in this years RxLVH also if they like another chance for a entry for 2016.... Other's?

Exactly.

And you know as well as I do having seen other Forums none Command the Respect, The Loyalty, that RX does cuz its just better than those other ones. This is due in part cuz RX was the First & Original Online Internet Sports Forum, what Ken made and left us was Genius.

RX Started it all. Consider how many Sports Forums there are and have been and you'll grasp why that is Huge.

To have been the very very first way way back in a whole other Century.

Because of its History, better Moderators thus Less Trolls so the crowd is immensely better and way more knowledgeable overall that other Forums RX has a different and better "vibe", "Karma", "aura" whatever word you wanna call it.

We'd have an Army of guys here willing to sneak in promotional mention of The RX Free Entry To the SuperContest Contest. This could be huge....really likely could be huge for RX, The 150 Buy-In and the Book that was Lucky enough to get to Sponsor it.

Key is we'd "put it out there" (promote it) without explaining IMMEDIATELY that it was for entry to the 2016 Contest...let people assume its for this year....just type:

"Theres a Contest for a Free $1500 Entry to the Westgate Football Contest here. Prize is you get a whole entry fee paid totally and its a free contest & anyone can enter, really really cool"

or some such thing.

Which some may call misleading but its really not. Thats what the Contest would be for.

Marketing 101 & just the manner in which things are marketed nowadays.

For Example: Taco Bell gives away 3 Free Tacos when MLB Teams (certain ones) get over 5 Runs.

When talked about by announcers they don't say you have to buy a drink. To get the Tacos.

If The RX Army felt like it they could Rock This Out. If RX wanted to deal with the massive Traffic it might bring.


You already said you'd grade the Contest.

Could you grade 128,332 Entries though? That might take some time

 

[ML Dog]

I hope he is the 1st to act on this idea as other Forum Leads read Rx as often as we browse.

It doesn't matter if pilfering were to occur cuz RX is much much better than any other Forums and Sponsors know this. Ask 5Dimes where, of Forum Based Sponsorship generating Active Accounts, the vastly largest % of total assholes come from....what Forum. Its not RX.

A sponsor would, if they are wise, consider this. Would you, as a book, wanna Sponsor a Conest with a Forum thats gonna get you 100,000 Crybabies signed up then playing $1 Parlays and whining incessantly to your Customer Service People or would you wanna just Sponsor the Contest with RX?

You don't need to worry about it too much. Books ain't stupid.

 

[TheComputerGroup]

sharky99

RX Wizard

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08-06-2015, 11:19 AM

It s all good, made some great friends through this whole process over the years thats more important to me than anything else, sounds like they will try to eliminate the proxy thing down the road and put it online somehow but Im not sure how they will do that with Nevada Gaming. I was told they will be pushing for that in the near future.

Everything will be just a click away as on-line gambling will be. No ifs ants or buts
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Skoda, that's one thing I never understood about the Hilton contest......why they made the contest players drive to put their pucks in every week when you could easily do it online in today's technological age, boggles my mind!

Its a shame for the proxies, they will lose a lot of money, but it will attract a ton more people towards the contest if its all done online.

One they pass sports betting on the east coast, it will be a nationwide contest which will have entries close or over 10,000 people easily. ......& with that, a huge 1st place prize, something like $6 to $7 million or more, depending on the entries.

But for now, what they want is people to come & enter live in person, then that's it, every week will be entered by each person on their mobile phone or home computer.......this should have been done years ago.

 

[ML Dog]

Skoda, that's one thing I never understood about the Hilton contest......why they made the contest players drive to put their pucks in every week when you could easily do it online in today's technological age, boggles my mind!

Its a shame for the proxies, they will lose a lot of money, but it will attract a ton more people towards the contest if its all done online.

One they pass sports betting on the east coast, it will be a nationwide contest which will have entries close or over 10,000 people easily. ......& with that, a huge 1st place prize, something like $6 to $7 million or more, depending on the entries.

But for now, what they want is people to come & enter live in person, then that's it, every week will be entered by each person on their mobile phone or home computer.......this should have been done years ago.

Because its "Gambling"? So there are Legalities?

LVH Legal Counsel prolly advised it could not be done or, at the least, would bring too much Heat to be worth trying.

Right Now anyways. Obviously it goes there then we see 5000+ entrants. I'd reckon anyways. Maybe more than that.

No telling how Big it could get. Because of the Unique Prestige of winning it. It'll always have that over DFS

 

[HarryCaray]

Just shipped ppal for the NFL only. Thanks guys

 

[Betallsports]

Everyone is thinking on same topic I'm sure BAS will consider. I hope he is the 1st to act on this idea as other Forum Leads read Rx as often as we browse. Never thought of an Entry into the big one from a sponsor plus the Rx cash prize to the winner! Could be a travel issue but can get someone from Vegas involved? This is growing, like WSP and Rx can be lead. Maybe BetDSI will get on board? The FREE contest should get at least 100 sign-ups with a free shot at an entry. Include those also who are signed up in this years RxLVH also if they like another chance for a entry for 2016.... Other's?

We did this for the Real LVH 2 years ago.
we ran. A Poker tournament to win an. Entry ....

i alraedy have have something planned for this year with Our contest.

 

[Betallsports]

Just shipped ppal for the NFL only. Thanks guys

Saw that. Will mark it paid tonight.
on the road.