Texas SCREWED AND LOSES BCS due to OU getting 2 first place Coaches' votes, period.

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Right, that's exactly my point here, so we're in complete and total agreement. Of course the system sucks, we all know that, so GIVEN what we ALL know, I personally find it a CRIME that two coaches would take it upon themselves to vote this way, damn well knowing that their fraudulent 1st place votes for one-loss OU over undefeated Alabama could make a difference.

We're not talking about which coaches voted OU and UT #2 and #3 and vice-versa, we're talking about the ONLY UNDEFEATED BCS TEAM in Alabama not getting 2 first place votes from 2 different head coaches!

And I want to know just WHO these 2 coaches are. I ALSO want to see their ENTIRE ballot. Just how FAR below #1 OU did they have Texas? Was Texas #3 behind #2 Bama on their ballots? Or was Texas maybe #4 behind #2 Bama and #3 Florida on their ballots? You do realize each position on a ballot represents a certain number of points, right? And OU finished with an overall 1 point lead in the #2 position, 1 unbelievable point. See where I'm going with this?

I decided not to quote or respond to the rest of your post because you know the only team I'm loyal to USC and thus I'm not the "blind longhorn homer" you're alluding to. I simply want to see what's right happen and head-to-head absolutely MUST be the ultimate tiebreaker in the minds of voters when they vote. And it WAS, except in the minds of all but 2 coaches. And I want to know just who they are.


Are you going to respond to the Tech beating Texas question while you're on this rampage or not? It seems you're just another OU hater here!


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everygamblers dream, to say that USC is the best team, your an idiot. who in the hell has USC beat? lost to a so so Oregon St. team & to say that Texas doesn't deserve to be there, thats another idiot comment. you keep crying that the refs gave the game to Texas, unreal. maybe, if Florida beats Bama, maybe Oklahoma & Texas can play for all the marbles. i doubt that will happen, but what if.

Don't be mad homer because karma caught up with your team. Your team was helped in that Oklahoma game. Oh that is right, lets ignore the drives that resulted in points which were stopped but continued due to an obvious bad call.

Idiots like you don't know football & overall talent. USC is the best team in the country & would not be an underdog to anyone in the country.

So tell me why your team deserves the spot over Oklahoma & Texas Tech? Don't give me the H2H as you like other two are only 1-1 against each other.

The overall body of work by Oklahoma trumps Texas EASILY. Their OOC schedule is vastly superior & those wins helped out big time. Quick tell me what non Big 12 BCS conference champion Texas beat? Oh that is right, you didn't even play one.
 

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What were the other 4? I find it hard to believe they needed to go 5 deep for a tiebreaker.

Here is the Big 12 tiebreaker process. They are at the 5th tie-breaker:

The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:

  1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
  2. If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
    1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
    2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
    3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)
    4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
    5. The highest ranked team in the fi rst Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
    6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
    7. The representative will be chosen by draw.


 
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Official Big 12 Tiebreaker Rules:

Divisional Tiebreakers: The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:

1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative

2. If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.


1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other

2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division

3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)

4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;

5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative

6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative

7. The representative will be chosen by draw.


Source: Official Big 12 site
 
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Here is the Big 12 tiebreaker process. They are at the 5th tie-breaker:

The following procedure will determine the representative from each division in the event of a tie:

  1. If two teams are tied, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative
  2. If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
    1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
    2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
    3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of fi nish (4, 5 and 6)
    4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
    5. The highest ranked team in the fi rst Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
    6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
    7. The representative will be chosen by draw.



:lolBIG: We were posting at the same time.
 

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big 12 should just have the rule like the SEC where it comes down to the head to head match up
 

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big 12 should just have the rule like the SEC where it comes down to the head to head match up
How does the head to head get solved when you have a three way tie? I hate to keep bringing this up, but Texas Tech did beat Texas. They would have just as much right in a head to head as the two other teams. In this case it couldn't be solved that way.
 

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no shock here that OU made it. people dont like teams with defense (Texas). They want offense (Oklahoma)
 

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Are you going to respond to the Tech beating Texas question while you're on this rampage or not? It seems you're just another OU hater here!


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Do you have a firm enough grasp of the English language to be able to read and follow along in an argument? If not, please go away. No one here is "hating" on OU, grow up and take your blinders off.

As for the TT-UT game, do you know who Blake Gideon is?

Let's do this... go stand 5 feet away from me. I'll then lob a football to you underhanded right to your midsection with no velocity on it. If you can catch it, I'll give you $12 Million dollars. If you don't, I get $12 Million. Care to take that challenge?

That should put your TT-UT argument to bed.

Blake. Gideon. Remember the name.
 

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at Texas Tech...the 4th game in a row against top 10 competition.

we didnt get TTech at home after a bye
It doesn't matter if it was the tenth number one team they played in a row on the road in a driving rainstorm. They still lost.
 

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USC isn't going period, its not even a remote possibility.

They are going to the Rose Bowl to face Penn State

Then the voters should send Georgia a letter of apology after what happened to them last year.
 

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everybody in the world knows the system is flawed but correct me if I'm wrong here but in last weeks poll didn't OU have 4 first place votes. So they actually lost 2 of them this week. All I'm saying is these 2 coaches clearly think that OU was the better than alabama even before this week. And I'm not going to bitch about that. I personally think OU is better than Alabama and I really don't care that OU has 1 loss while Ala is undefeated. Now if alabama had all 61 first place votes last week and than lost 2 of them to OU this week I might be a little upset. Remember in 1997 when Michigan had a huge advantage in both polls and than magically after Nebraska'a coach announced his retirement the coaches voted Neb. #1. That was alot more F-ed up than this is.

Also don't forget that 1 coach voted UF #1. Wonder who that was?
 

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it takes someone seriously retarded to bring up texas tech. texas beat OU and Mizzou, they are tied for the best record in the big 12 south yet two teams they beat will play for the big 12.

texas tech does not factor in. how fucking stupid do you have to be to think that OU deserves a shot over a team that beat them by 10 on a neutral field?

pretty fucking dense.
 

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everygamblersdream, first of all, Texas is not my team, second, Texas beat Oklahoma because they shut OU down in the second half, had more total yards, more first downs, held the ball for 37 minutes & had 0 turnovers. if i'm not mistaken, you said that OU would kill Texas the first game. Texas is one of the few teams that is just as fast as OU.
 

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It doesn't matter if it was the tenth number one team they played in a row on the road in a driving rainstorm. They still lost.

and i think it does make a difference. among TT, OU, and UT....all ended up 1-1 but only UT did not get a home game.

i think this just shows that

a) we need a playoff
b) until then, coaches MUST score as many points as possible. offense matters. playing defense is completely optional
 

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it woulda been kind of cool if it had come down to a draw.... live at 7:30....

who will be the team w/ the revenge factor next year between OU/UT? if i was a UT fan i'd be disappointed as hell, because one of the great things about our rivalry is that the winner will have the upper hand in the division... but TT's season threw a wrench into that.... NFL has a tiebreaker where they factor in scoring margin vs common opponents....OU would have won that one too...

this actually isn't a bad tiebreaker between 3 teams, because everything these teams did thoughout the got factored in. got to throw out the head-2-head unless someone wants to make a case for TT....
 

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