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Johnboy
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I believe this race will be Jimmy Johnson vs the 3 main Rousch cars


Johnson +625 3.5 units

He will most likely drop to 4 or 5-1 later in the week after practices. Ran great last week so he has the momentum. Won here last fall. Usually qualifies in the top 10, so take him early.

Edwards +550 1.5 units (going to put another 1.5 on Sunday before race...just hope that his value goes up...taking a chance with that)

Ran great here last fall before having some kind of car failure. Obviously, he has had great cars each and every week. Rousch has dominated this track, and he has been the dominant car in Rousch. You must take him this week

Kenseth +925 3 units

...ran well here last year. finished 5th and 3rd. A great pit crew than can get him out front. Great value at over 9-1. Shouldnt change too much either b.c he rarely qualifies well.

Biffle +1425 3 units

....great value here! biffle had the fastest car here last fall! only downside is that his pit crew cant get him out front like Kenseth and Johnsons teams can. Biffle could win, but it will most likely have to be on a green flag run to end the race. Note- Biffle has the most quality passes (passes on cars running in the top 15 spots) than any other driver so far this year! He is great during green flag conditions




Lets go get em boys! Give me your imput as well!
 

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Be very careful not to rule out those RCR boys. Did you examine test speeds at this track from March? Burton, Harvick and Bowyer will be tough. For me, it's a toss-up between Harvick and Johnson. The better Roush cars will be tough too, but I don't see them beating RCR/Hendrick this weekend. Hendrick is due for a win and Johnson has momentum from a strong run and did win at this track last year. Hendrick wasn't super fast in testing but I'm sure have done a lot of work at the shop based on the testing to improve the cars. They have to be hungry for that 1st win.

Kevin Harvick or Jimmy Johnson gets it done this weekend.

I believe this race will be Jimmy Johnson vs the 3 main Rousch cars


Johnson +625 3.5 units

He will most likely drop to 4 or 5-1 later in the week after practices. Ran great last week so he has the momentum. Won here last fall. Usually qualifies in the top 10, so take him early.

Edwards +550 1.5 units (going to put another 1.5 on Sunday before race...just hope that his value goes up...taking a chance with that)

Ran great here last fall before having some kind of car failure. Obviously, he has had great cars each and every week. Rousch has dominated this track, and he has been the dominant car in Rousch. You must take him this week

Kenseth +925 3 units

...ran well here last year. finished 5th and 3rd. A great pit crew than can get him out front. Great value at over 9-1. Shouldnt change too much either b.c he rarely qualifies well.

Biffle +1425 3 units

....great value here! biffle had the fastest car here last fall! only downside is that his pit crew cant get him out front like Kenseth and Johnsons teams can. Biffle could win, but it will most likely have to be on a green flag run to end the race. Note- Biffle has the most quality passes (passes on cars running in the top 15 spots) than any other driver so far this year! He is great during green flag conditions




Lets go get em boys! Give me your imput as well!
 

Johnboy
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Be very careful not to rule out those RCR boys. Did you examine test speeds at this track from March? Burton, Harvick and Bowyer will be tough. For me, it's a toss-up between Harvick and Johnson. The better Roush cars will be tough too, but I don't see them beating RCR/Hendrick this weekend. Hendrick is due for a win and Johnson has momentum from a strong run and did win at this track last year. Hendrick wasn't super fast in testing but I'm sure have done a lot of work at the shop based on the testing to improve the cars. They have to be hungry for that 1st win.

Kevin Harvick or Jimmy Johnson gets it done this weekend.

You raise a good point, but the weather at Phoenix the days of testing was in the 50's....it will be mid 90's on Sunday. The cars are going to be sliding all over the place if they bring their March Test setups.

I have never gone off top testing speeds....I wish there was a way to find out 20 lap average in testing...thats the real data you need! You dont know if they could be working on a qualifying setup, which would be real deceiving speed.

I am going off last years races at Phoenix and the way the cars acted on long runs....Johnson and Rousch seemed to be leaders of the pack. Plus, Rousch cars seem to have their COT shit together so far....

Best of luck to you!!
 

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Yeah testing is good and bad. I mean, it can get you in the ballpark on handling, but the track will change and the weather will change before you get back there. Even the practice today is going to be different than the night racing tomorrow night when the track is cooler. And, of course, all weekend more and more rubber gets put down and more grip gets onto the track. Between that rubber and the cooler night conditions, the track will tighten up.

I'm taking Johnson to win it, and Harvick as my 2nd pick. Gibbs struggled in practice today but conditions will be different come race time and RCR will get those cars running well. I think Kenseth and Edwards will run top 10 but have a hard time putting either on a win this weekend. Johnson is way over-due for a win this season going by how often and how early he normally wins. He rolled off fast, and won the fall race here in the Chase. They ran 2nd last weekend and have a lot of momentum for this weekend. Honestly, I'll be suprised if he's not in victory lane at the end of the night. It pains me to say this, cause I personally don't like the guy. Bottom line is he has one of the best crew chiefs in the garage and a lot of resources at the shop.

Interested to see avg lap speeds on tomorrow's practices when they're working on race setups. Those could help a lot, but for now I think Johnson will get the win.

You raise a good point, but the weather at Phoenix the days of testing was in the 50's....it will be mid 90's on Sunday. The cars are going to be sliding all over the place if they bring their March Test setups.

I have never gone off top testing speeds....I wish there was a way to find out 20 lap average in testing...thats the real data you need! You dont know if they could be working on a qualifying setup, which would be real deceiving speed.

I am going off last years races at Phoenix and the way the cars acted on long runs....Johnson and Rousch seemed to be leaders of the pack. Plus, Rousch cars seem to have their COT shit together so far....

Best of luck to you!!
 

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Interested to see avg lap speeds on tomorrow's practices when they're working on race setups. Those could help a lot, but for now I think Johnson will get the win.

Couldnt agree more with that. Hopefully I can be around a computer during practice to track practice speeds.

Johnson is my heavy fav as well, but I think Edwards is right behind him. After that, its a crap shoot.

Best of luck to both of us!
 

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If you have trackpass what I like to do is load the leaderboard anytime during the day. It will start monitoring speeds when it eventually starts. If no other things start (like nationwide qualifying/practice/race) it will leave up those speeds on your screen for when you get home. Like tonight, they have 2nd and 3rd practice and nothing else. So, I'll leave that screen open and when I get home I'll have 3rd practice speeds and it will show me how many laps each driver did and avg lap speeds. By 3rd practice most teams should be testing long runs, and in later (8-9pm) conditions which will be closer to track conditions during the race.

One could argue Newman is fast right now and ran well last fall. Bottom line for me is his team isn't as good as others at adjusting from the daylight to the sundown conditions. The track will tighten up and it's a scramble for teams to adjust the cars correctly. To me, there will only be at best 2 good cars once the sun goes down. I agree it should be Edwards and Johnson. I've got my $ on both of them.

BOL to us!

Couldnt agree more with that. Hopefully I can be around a computer during practice to track practice speeds.

Johnson is my heavy fav as well, but I think Edwards is right behind him. After that, its a crap shoot.

Best of luck to both of us!
 

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I'm still taking Johnson to win it but I think Biffle is a good buy too as a backup. He had a good 10-lap average in final practice which is closer to actual race-time. He's a good wheel-man and is running well this season. He could pull off the upset but I'm investing just enough to break even in case he wins.

BOL!
 

Johnboy
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I'm still taking Johnson to win it but I think Biffle is a good buy too as a backup. He had a good 10-lap average in final practice which is closer to actual race-time. He's a good wheel-man and is running well this season. He could pull off the upset but I'm investing just enough to break even in case he wins.

BOL!


yeah, im sticking with my picks from the top of this page

Glad i took Johnson and Biffle early. Got them at their highest value!


Should be a great race and looking forward to it! Best of luck to everyone!
 

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Adding One More Play!!

BIFFLE TOP 3 FINISH +395 (THEGREEK) 3 UNITS

AS I MENTIONED IN MY FIRST POST, BIFFLE HAD THE FASTEST CAR HERE LAST YEAR. HAD GREAT PRACTICES THIS WEEK AND SHOULD BE VERY COMPETITIVE. YOU CAN STILL GRAB HIM AT CLOSE TO 14-1 WHICH IS INCREDIBLE VALUE, BUT JOHNSON AND EDWARDS LOOK TO BE THE CLASS OF THE FIELD.....BUT THE BEST CAR DOESNT ALWAYS WIN!

I FEEL REAL GOOD WITH THE BIFF AT ALMOST 4-1 FOR A TOP 3 FINISH!!!

I FEEL LIKE IM BLOWING MY LOAD THIS WEEK WITH ALMOST 16 UNITS IN PLAY, BUT GOING ON GUT FEELING. WORST CASE SCENARIO, STILL UP 15 UNITS YTD....BUT IF BIFF CAN PULL OFF THE WIN, IT WILL BE A 50+ UNIT DAY!!!
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I like your card. I don't usually decide till after final practice. Also look for the track to cool down about half way through the race. Not sure if Biffles crew is good enough to adjust at the right time, the right amount.

I'm thinking that Harvick could be the darkhorse here if something happens to Johnson and Edwards.
 

Johnboy
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+42.6 Units Ytd

I believe this race will be Jimmy Johnson vs the 3 main Rousch cars


Johnson +625 3.5 units

He will most likely drop to 4 or 5-1 later in the week after practices. Ran great last week so he has the momentum. Won here last fall. Usually qualifies in the top 10, so take him early.

Edwards +550 1.5 units (going to put another 1.5 on Sunday before race...just hope that his value goes up...taking a chance with that)

Ran great here last fall before having some kind of car failure. Obviously, he has had great cars each and every week. Rousch has dominated this track, and he has been the dominant car in Rousch. You must take him this week

Kenseth +925 3 units

...ran well here last year. finished 5th and 3rd. A great pit crew than can get him out front. Great value at over 9-1. Shouldnt change too much either b.c he rarely qualifies well.

Biffle +1425 3 units

....great value here! biffle had the fastest car here last fall! only downside is that his pit crew cant get him out front like Kenseth and Johnsons teams can. Biffle could win, but it will most likely have to be on a green flag run to end the race. Note- Biffle has the most quality passes (passes on cars running in the top 15 spots) than any other driver so far this year! He is great during green flag conditions




Lets go get em boys! Give me your imput as well!


WELL IT SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF US HIT JOHNSON FOR THE WIN!!

+9.875 UNIT DAY

+42.6 UNITS YTD!!!


WWWOOOOO!!!!

NEXT WEEK THEY ARE OFF, THEN OFF TO TALLADEGA!!!
 

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