I completely appreciate THAT specific point of view,,, but in rreality that is a shitty angle to play,,, You have to be honest it does CHEAPEN horse racing in your example,,, ALL I am saying is that the BEST should compete with the BEST,,,, and if Putting Belmont 1 or 2 more weeks OUT allows CC to be more rested,, that is what we want a fair fight,,
hasn't this been the same set of rules they used since the very beginning? or have they changed something recently?
if they've been playing by these rules for 100 years, give or take, then he's off base
if they've been playing by these rules for 100 years, give or take, then he's off base
There is a reason Horse racing is dieing... It is going the way of BOXING lolol,,, people saw the FIXES right in front of their fkn faces with Boxing,,, (not saying yesterday was a fix) it just wasent a fair fight,,,
and for those that are traditionalists and say dont change anything,,, your being Naive, EVERY SINGLE SPORT has had to MORPH slightly over time,,, EVERY SINGLE ONE<,,, but not Horses??,,,
Now look at you,,,, Your sport is DIEING,,, and its your inability to recognize what needs to happen to generate interest and bring in a crowd,,,
this is the truth,,,
and for those that are traditionalists and say dont change anything,,, your being Naive, EVERY SINGLE SPORT has had to MORPH slightly over time,,, EVERY SINGLE ONE<,,, but not Horses??,,,
Now look at you,,,, Your sport is DIEING,,, and its your inability to recognize what needs to happen to generate interest and bring in a crowd,,,
this is the truth,,,
his rant would have more clout, if he said it before the belmont. however for him
to call others who bypass other triple crown races and run in the belmont cheaters
is classless and ignorant at best. i guess that makes woody stephens who won the
belmont 5 years in a row the ultimate cheater. if woody, a horseman's horseman,
could come out the grave, he'd bitch slap mr coburn silly.
coburn does have some good points. the triple crown series is really tough on horses.
i don't think sham ever raced again after chasing secretariat. many other horses
have had their careers ruined in their owners quest for glory. three races over different
tracks and distances carrying an absurb 126 lbs. is almost criminal to the horses in
light of the fragility of todays breed. i doubt that will change soon until a major tragedy
or two occurs due to this format.
to call others who bypass other triple crown races and run in the belmont cheaters
is classless and ignorant at best. i guess that makes woody stephens who won the
belmont 5 years in a row the ultimate cheater. if woody, a horseman's horseman,
could come out the grave, he'd bitch slap mr coburn silly.
coburn does have some good points. the triple crown series is really tough on horses.
i don't think sham ever raced again after chasing secretariat. many other horses
have had their careers ruined in their owners quest for glory. three races over different
tracks and distances carrying an absurb 126 lbs. is almost criminal to the horses in
light of the fragility of todays breed. i doubt that will change soon until a major tragedy
or two occurs due to this format.
au contraire mon fraire
He did say it before the Belmont. In fact before the Derby. how do I know. Well Ill tell ya...
I was in Louisville OAKS morning, driving to a hotel to pick up my Oaks tickets through a stub hub sale
Of course catching Louisville radio horse racing local coverage which is on non stop Derby weekend...
One of the local radio stations Had an interview with Steve (I don’t recall if it was syndicated type radio show or a local sports radio show ) and in that interview that morning they asked him about his statements about he is winning the Derby and even the Triple Crown. In that interview (radio) that day he said the exact same thing about the triple crown, the Belmont, needs to change, only horse that run in the first races should have a chance in the Belmont, new horses coming in late make this task unfair to the horses and connections attempting what the sport is seeking, and his feelings is that this needs to change.... very direct… it was strange to hear actually.... It also is not an opinion that I agree with but I heard it, adsorbed it, the two guys interviewing were a bit taken back as you normally don’t get a real interview in anything these days its just jargon and political correct, They discussed it a bit after the interview ended so it got their attention some also…Ive been thinking about it lots since that morning…
Now when I heard that great open brash interview OAKS morning I was thinking WOW this will be an interesting year for the Triple Crown, and Chrome connections with this not afraid to state his opinion wild card co owner). I figured well if Americal Sports gave Sherman a partial pass I think this guy will get through it also but I was not sure… I was already feeling like many that he was going to win the Derby, Preakness sets up great for him and then the Belmont buildup will be interesting with this as one of the backdrops......
but unlike what ANYONE has reported about Steve and his opinions he was and did say this BEFORE the Derby....and to the Press...SO I was not even the smallest amount surprised on the in your face 3 minutes after this huge emotional event that NBC sticking a mic in front of him got those direct post race comments again, which again stated the same opinion on the process I heard 5 weeks 1 day earlier. But this time included “cowards” and more heat of the long battle phrases which were unfortunate and I thought inappropriate by Steve.
While I wish he would have been rehearsed a bit more by him those are his actual thoughts.
So sorry haters, there was no Sour grapes at all... so now Ya know...
and I can also say if they had won the Crown he would have said the same thing again, if you want these spaced maybe 35 years apart stay with this format but for the improvement of the sport change some things as his opinion...
. Lots more horse racing discussion next week or so and his consistent opinion and holding to it.you can debate the opinion but now you know the truth...
au contraire mon fraire
He did say it before the Belmont. In fact before the Derby. how do I know. Well Ill tell ya...
I was in Louisville OAKS morning, driving to a hotel to pick up my Oaks tickets through a stub hub sale
Of course catching Louisville radio horse racing local coverage which is on non stop Derby weekend...
One of the local radio stations Had an interview with Steve (I don’t recall if it was syndicated type radio show or a local sports radio show ) and in that interview that morning they asked him about his statements about he is winning the Derby and even the Triple Crown. In that interview (radio) that day he said the exact same thing about the triple crown, the Belmont, needs to change, only horse that run in the first races should have a chance in the Belmont, new horses coming in late make this task unfair to the horses and connections attempting what the sport is seeking, and his feelings is that this needs to change.... very direct… it was strange to hear actually.... It also is not an opinion that I agree with but I heard it, adsorbed it, the two guys interviewing were a bit taken back as you normally don’t get a real interview in anything these days its just jargon and political correct, They discussed it a bit after the interview ended so it got their attention some also…Ive been thinking about it lots since that morning…
Now when I heard that great open brash interview OAKS morning I was thinking WOW this will be an interesting year for the Triple Crown, and Chrome connections with this not afraid to state his opinion wild card co owner). I figured well if Americal Sports gave Sherman a partial pass I think this guy will get through it also but I was not sure… I was already feeling like many that he was going to win the Derby, Preakness sets up great for him and then the Belmont buildup will be interesting with this as one of the backdrops......
but unlike what ANYONE has reported about Steve and his opinions he was and did say this BEFORE the Derby....and to the Press...SO I was not even the smallest amount surprised on the in your face 3 minutes after this huge emotional event that NBC sticking a mic in front of him got those direct post race comments again, which again stated the same opinion on the process I heard 5 weeks 1 day earlier. But this time included “cowards” and more heat of the long battle phrases which were unfortunate and I thought inappropriate by Steve.
While I wish he would have been rehearsed a bit more by him those are his actual thoughts.
So sorry haters, there was no Sour grapes at all... so now Ya know...
and I can also say if they had won the Crown he would have said the same thing again, if you want these spaced maybe 35 years apart stay with this format but for the improvement of the sport change some things as his opinion...
you can debate the opinion but now you know the truth...
Nice post.
Yea, Real Quiets owner was real quiet after he lost the Belmont
Why cant the same horses race again? Its like in the entire course of a horse's lifetime, only 3 races matter and it seems like they race in no more than 8 times in their life. Now next year, it will be a bunch of horses no one has heard of and then everyone goes crazy for a couple weeks over the horse that wins the derby. Orb should still be racing along with Mine that Bird and California Chrome in the 2015 1 month long horse racing season. Give them some equipoise and race them more.
The fields wouldn't be small if the owners were given an incentive to enter them. They need to bring back the points system. I see no reason why they couldn't find a sponsor that can put up a couple million dollars for the points winner. You wouldn't necessarily have to win any of the triple crown races to win the points title. Owners ought to be jumping at that. It also wouldn't be a bad idea to spread out these races to a couple of months instead of 5 weeks. Horse racing isn't the same as it was 100 years ago. They need to progress with the times.
He knew the rules going into the Triple Crown...I can't feel bad for him. If he loses one of the first two does he still complain? Why did he not complain about these rules before the Tripe Crown started...or did he? He has had plenty of time to express his views long before this whole process started.
The thing is, they need to do something or we may not see another Triple Crown winner again. The game has changed. This is no longer the 70's where they had 3 Triple Crown winners. For example the number of horses a triple crown winner have had to beat in the Belmont has been a low 4.45 other horses. Only 5.45 horses average in the Belmont races producing a Triple Crown winner. In the 11 Belmonts from 2002-2012 there were an average of 10 horses coming out of the game. So the number of horses a modern day Triple Crown winner has to beat in the Belmont is more than double that faced by the past 11 Triple Crown winners. And with the lion's share of those other horses being fresh with lots of rest and with jockeys who know the track and the horses bred for the grueling distance of the Belmont.
