Sportbet renegs on deal

[UberTout]

Hi Jake,

Kudos for showing up to detail your side of the story, but with respect, I think it's unfair to change the terms of your commitment after you made it.

In retrospect, it would have been a good idea to have a timeframe on the rollover requirement. If he wagered 70% of the requirement, he was obviously getting bets in.

I think you left yourself open, and the fact that the player is a sharp is irrelevant.

FYI I dont' know this customer, this is just my two cents.

UT

 

[Jake]

Chuck...your conclusions...

Chuck,

Didn't you also conclude we were going out of business 4 years ago? Then again 3 years ago? Likewise 2 years ago? Didn't you also think we were going out of business this year? HMMMmmm....thanks for your conclusions...I guess, based on your posts on my company, if you post plays, people would say to fade them.

Jake

 

[peteep]

I can definately see Jake's point of view here. You can't just give away $5000 without expecting regular action. Would have to see the exact amount of action he was giving, but I can't fault Jake on this one. I haven't played at sportbet for a wee while....might have to reload.

 

[Jake]

Uber,

KingofPoke is the reason that ALL bailout plans must now come from an Rx Moderator, the Major, or OSGA.

In all fairness, after his first few bets, and after he failed to give us action for a considerable time aftewards, I told the client of my intentions. His balance at that time had not increased that much, nor was their considerable action in the account. He understood and agreed. This conversation happened 3 more times over the course of the next 8 months. I tried to give the client the benefit of the doubt. After so many attempts, I feel he no longer deserved the benefit.

KingofPoke,

My questions did not get answered. I think it is important that they get a response, as it would probably change some of these posters' opinions of the situation. Oh....and you have given me one bet this month. Wisky for 2k -6.5 on Nov. 6th. Hmmmmmm...

Jake

 

[BAUS]

It seems like Jake has a cavalier attitude with the customers he doesn't like.

Unless there was a stipulation that said "hot" games could not be wagered on, then give the man his bonus.

If there was no time frame to meet the rollover, give the man his bonus.

IMHO, cutting limits to $250 is kinda weak when he has thousands in rollover to meet...that's telling the customer to "screw off".

I still find it funny that "sharps" are treated like lepers by sportsbooks.

Shame on Jake.

BAUS

 

[ChuckSims]

Some help. Bailout players that end up losing the money plus the "new" money sent to Sportbet. Anybody that is on their way of rolling the money over 20x and is ahead, Jake steals back the bonus. What a guy. Kudos to Jake.

 

[Jake]

Chuck,

I would agree that 20x is pretty high. That is why we only ask for 10x. Really, you should get SOME facts straight BEFORE you post.

Jake Slater
Sportbet.com...according to Chuck Sims and Drunk...going out of business since 1996.

 

[CharlieChan]

Low life scammer bonus whores like Pokerking are the reason the average small bettor cant get a bailout when they need one. Good for Jake for drawing the line somewhere.

 

[Jake]

I might be shooting myself in the foot, but how about asking this forum and the one next door a poll:

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN BAILOUT PLANS FROM SPORTBET.COM?

OF THOSE PEOPLE, HOW MANY HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEIR BONUS?

Folks, I know the answer...1. Pokerking...anybody wonder why?

I am still waiting for answers to my questions, Pokerking.

Jake

 

[ChuckSims]

Jake lowers his internet limits to a paltry $250 and then steals back the bonus because he was'nt giving Sportbet enough action. How silly is that?

 

[bucsfan67]

Jake, the majority of us know that you are here to help the players when u can....being a moderator, and seeing behind the curtain on matters of bailouts, and Panam, and such, we realize this....

Some posters are never going to be happy, whatever you do...

The vast majority are not like that though....

If the player was told 3-4 times that he needed to wager more, and he still did not, then he obvioulsy wasnt too concerned about it then....

Only when he loses the bonus did he get "concerned"...

If he was paid all but the bonus, then the matter should be over.....

 

[Pokerking]

Jake,

The rollover was 20 times my initial deposit. I gave you about 6k in action a few weeks ago. I can't tell because your software only goes back 2 weeks. You tell me. First you cut my limits to $250 on the net so I sort of lost interest in Sportbet. Then I'd phone in and your clerks would give me a different number than what you posted on the net. You also make your football quarter lines 30 cents instead of 20 cents so I lost interest in that. When you took my money and offerred me the bailout you never said I had to be a square.

 

[ChuckSims]

In that poll ask how may people are way ahead too. I think you will find most if not all are in the loss column. Is'nt that what separates pokerking from the rest?

 

[Jake]

Bucs,

Point well made, sir. I am a little surprised I let this get me worked up, since I knew this gentlemen would go to the forums. It has been a long day, I guess. Thanks for the advice. I guess I will call it an evening. I will check online later and then again tomorrow. Should questions that have not been answered arise, I will be happy to answer them. Thanks again, Bucs, as well as you other posters who see the truth for what it is.

Jake

 

[Noreaga+]

I think Jake took a risk and he lost. He sat back and waited to see if it woudl go his way and it wasnt.. he saw Pokerkings strategy and knew his book was going to lose.

Very lame, even if you communicated with him, you still had no right to envoke new rules after he deposited.

 

[Jake]

OK FOLKS...CHECK THIS OUT AND TELL ME HE DOES NOT TWIST THINGS TO MAKE HIM LOOK BETTER.

Our bailout is 10x the deposit + the bonus. The client deposits, we match it, then there is a 10x rollover. ALWAYS THE SAME THING.

Pokerking wants to twist things so he looks good...THUS the 20x rollover (of his deposit). LOL. Pokerking, THANKS FOR ENDING MY WORK DAY BY PROVING MY POINT OF THE TYPE OF CLIENT YOU ARE.

Jake

 

[Kiss1]

Jake lowers his internet limits to a paltry $250 and then steals back the bonus because he was'nt giving Sportbet enough action. How silly is that?

Almost as silly as saying ....

Sorry pal, we only want losers ... :nono5:

 

[Pokerking]

Jake,

I have just stated the facts. Call the rollover 20x the initial deposit or 10x the initial deposit and bonus. It's the same thing. You've shown everybody that you don't keep your word. The deal was 100k in rollover. There wasn't any time limitation. You also didn't tell me you'd give me $250 internet limits when we started this. I've asked you on numerous occasions to give me higher internet limits and you constantly refused me yet you want more action from me. Then you just go help yourself to $5,000 from my account when I never made any withdrawls from the account for a year and it should have stayed in the account. You've shown everybody here the type of person that you are and that you don't keep your word.

 

[ArenaNut]

Jake

I never have read a more messed up thing in my life. You offer bail out plan then cry like a baby that the guy is not giving you enough action? Get real!!!!!! A deal is a deal. You gave the bailout plan hoping the guy would lose his post up. This is proven with the statement he did not give us enough action. He gambled his way and you wernt happy. Show us some class and live up to your end.

 

[Jake]

KingofPoke,

A few quick questions. After our original conversation....did I, or did I not, tell you that I would take the bonus from you if you did not give us more regular action? How many times did I tell you that? After each time, and before we hung up, were you clear of what I expected?

Jake

Still waiting....