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Dude,

And why did you think this was worth creating a thread over?

This probably happens all the time by accident and not. Store probably rings up other items twice in 100 item orders too so it comes out in the wash for the store I bet...

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Enfuego, you aren't a bad guy but my lord you have to be the stiffest guy in history

And you are in your early 30s correct? You come off as late 60s

Yeah, I don't know. I think you have a skewed view of me just from what I write. I'm not a stiff guy at all really. We could sit and enjoy a steak and dinner over a ball game and have a good conversation.

I'm not in my early 30's.
 

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This probably happens all the time by accident and not. Store probably rings up other items twice in 100 item orders too so it comes out in the wash for the store I bet...

-murph

It definitely doesn't wash out. Thieving is a huge loss and prices increase for sure. It is a big factor in price increases actually. There are career thieves out there that this is what they do nonstop.
 

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It definitely doesn't wash out. Thieving is a huge loss and prices increase for sure. It is a big factor in price increases actually. There are career thieves out there that this is what they do nonstop.

This is kind of why I brought it up. I just thought the response from the checker was kind of callous like "oh well, no big deal, I don't mind."

That's why I posted it. No worries.
 

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I don't know JC, the consumer ends up paying for that kind of loss with higher prices typically.

Definitely does. My gf has an analyst job for a large grocery chain. Part of her job is to analyze shrink, or things that rot or go bad on the shelf before being sold. She said it's hard to factor in thieving with this, but it is definitely factored in as a loss, and it most certainly affects prices, sometimes substantially...

There is a reason why your high priced razors and such are locked up in all stores now...
 

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It definitely doesn't wash out. Thieving is a huge loss and prices increase for sure. It is a big factor in price increases actually. There are career thieves out there that this is what they do nonstop.

Loss prevention units for big retail are better than ever though. Walmart has better surveillance than the NSA.

Always surprised me even in nice suburb areas they got cameras on the roof, etc
 

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This is kind of why I brought it up. I just thought the response from the checker was kind of callous like "oh well, no big deal, I don't mind."

That's why I posted it. No worries.

I hear ya. I have a similar story in an auto parts store one time. I started to tackle and stop the guy and I'm glad I didn't because I would've prob been hit with a lawsuit because the manager's exact words were "It happens all the time, and we do nothing." I should've just picked up my $30 item and walked out too. lol

Another thing, it's the way older crowd that you wouldn't expect to do it that do. Why? Because they're seen in the public eye as the least likely. Wrong. Old folks are the ones selling pharmies the most as well.
 

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Loss prevention units for big retail are better than ever though. Walmart has better surveillance than the NSA.

Always surprised me even in nice suburb areas they got cameras on the roof, etc

They are, but a lot of cheaper items aren't tagged, nor really cared about. If I was a thief, I would stay away from Wal-Mart and such, but people steal from there like crazy.
 

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  • Shoplifters say they are caught an average of only once in every 48 times they steal. They are turned over to the police 50 percent of the time.
Wow
 

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Loss prevention units for big retail are better than ever though. Walmart has better surveillance than the NSA.

Always surprised me even in nice suburb areas they got cameras on the roof, etc


    • There are approximately 27 million shoplifters (or 1 in 11 people) in our nation today. More than 10 million people have been caught shoplifting in the last five years.


    • Shoplifting affects more than the offender. It overburdens the police and the courts, adds to a store’s security expenses, costs consumers more for goods, costs communities lost dollars in sales taxes and hurts children and families.
 

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I'd imagine most shoplifting is done by people under 25 right? Even if some old people do try to get away with it.

That is the worst thing you can get caught for. You can explain a DUI better than shoplifting. Nobody will trust you after.
 

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I'd imagine most shoplifting is done by people under 25 right? Even if some old people do try to get away with it.

That is the worst thing you can get caught for. You can explain a DUI better than shoplifting. Nobody will trust you after.

Nope.


  • Approximately 25 percent of shoplifters are kids, 75 percent are adults. 55 percent of adult shoplifters say they started shoplifting in their teens.

Also most shoflifters, that is the only crime they will commit. They will even return dropped money, or not steal from their friends or families houses.

Most non-professional shoplifters don’t commit other types of crimes. They’ll never steal an ashtray from your house and will return to you a $20 bill you may have dropped. Their criminal activity is restricted to shoplifting and therefore, any rehabilitation program should be “offense-specific” for this crime

Most DUI people are habitual offenders. Most I know drink and drive daily, or every time they drink, they drive. Not me, nor do I support it. However, shoplifters...


  • Habitual shoplifters steal an average of 1.6 times per week.
 

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It definitely doesn't wash out. Thieving is a huge loss and prices increase for sure. It is a big factor in price increases actually. There are career thieves out there that this is what they do nonstop.
Definitely does. My gf has an analyst job for a large grocery chain. Part of her job is to analyze shrink, or things that rot or go bad on the shelf before being sold. She said it's hard to factor in thieving with this, but it is definitely factored in as a loss, and it most certainly affects prices, sometimes substantially...

There is a reason why your high priced razors and such are locked up in all stores now...

I do agree its a huge issue. Just figured it was already factored into the pricing module for the store. I truly do not think stores would relax prices if thievery disappeared, and the consumer would just be paying the same amount making the store more profit. Honestly it would be hard to disagree with this statement. I guess for the consumer it screws them and the store on paper, but just the consumer for real since the store has already factored in the cost to the gauging markup the consumer pays. (sorry I hate knowing markup is 200% + on certain items so I guess view point is off the middle ground somewhat)


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I do agree its a huge issue. Just figured it was already factored into the pricing module for the store. I truly do not think stores would relax prices if thievery disappeared, and the consumer would just be paying the same amount making the store more profit. Honestly it would be hard to disagree with this statement. I guess for the consumer it screws them and the store on paper, but just the consumer for real since the store has already factored in the cost to the gauging markup the consumer pays. (sorry I hate knowing markup is 200% + on certain items so I guess view point is off the middle ground somewhat)


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It's not hard, I'll disagree with this statement. I have a girl sitting beside me right now that all she does is try to find a way to reduce prices. Some is out of her control yes, but they definitely do try...
 

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You also have to remember they take a loss of certain items just to get you in the store. Sometimes a huge loss. I can also assure you nothing is the grocery store is marked up 200%. Some don't even make it to 3%.
 

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I was in a super target the other day in line behind a black family of four with a cart full of groceries using a ebt food stamp card , they had several items that the cashier said they could not use the card for (a plunger , liquid plumber , lightbulbs , and deoderant) the cashier asked if they wanted to pay seperate for those items and the ladie said no just leave them off. ....Well the cashier set them at the end of the tray to the left and continued to ring up the rest of the goceries , then another employee wlaked up and started bagging the groceries and bagged up the items and put them in the cart.

I didnt say anything but it aggrivated the shit out of me. ...And these people think they deserve more than minimum wage. ARRGHH !!!
 

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You also have to remember they take a loss of certain items just to get you in the store. Sometimes a huge loss. I can also assure you nothing is the grocery store is marked up 200%. Some don't even make it to 3%.

Yeah grocery stores only make about $1 in profit per $100 sold, it's a very low margin/high vol business obviously.

What you said about 55% starting in teens makes sense. When I meant most of it is younger people, I moreso meant starting out that way and not people starting to shoplift in their 30s and 40s.
 

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