As much as I hate betting against my Mountaineers, UNC may wind up being my biggest play of bowl season. UNC is a solid, well-balanced team on both sides of the ball and WVU simply plays without a pulse. Pat White, Noel Devine, and Jock Sanders can all have an exciting play or two but we're dismal when it comes to the RZ and goal line. We have no power running attack like we did in previous seasons with Slaton & Schmitt (not say Slaton was a power back, but he was more stout than Devine or Jock). If UNC can make us one dimensional, which many D's can do, I have no doubt Butch Davis can run us right off the field.
WVU should get some public action because of our past success in the last big bowl games we've played in but we were under the helm of Rodriguez. Right now, we're attempting to institute the Wake Forest offense (our O coordinator) and we simply don't have the athletes to run such a dominant running attack. We're much quicker than we are stout. We have ZERO rushing ability up the middle and our O-Line is not quick enough for all the pull blocking we attempt to do. Nearly every 20+ yard run by White or Devine is down on their own and looks like a youtube highlight. UNC will also grind down our soft as shit defense.
UNC - 24
WVU - 13
WVU should get some public action because of our past success in the last big bowl games we've played in but we were under the helm of Rodriguez. Right now, we're attempting to institute the Wake Forest offense (our O coordinator) and we simply don't have the athletes to run such a dominant running attack. We're much quicker than we are stout. We have ZERO rushing ability up the middle and our O-Line is not quick enough for all the pull blocking we attempt to do. Nearly every 20+ yard run by White or Devine is down on their own and looks like a youtube highlight. UNC will also grind down our soft as shit defense.
UNC - 24
WVU - 13
Appreciate all your observations Seanm and if I was to do a write up it would be along the lines to this one. My only true concern as I stated in my brief write up is UNC's lack of a great running game. I faded WVU against physical running teams (Ville/Pitt) and while UNC doesn't pose a running game comparable to those two I think their passing game gives them a balance which should give WVU trouble. At the end of the day WVU defense should wear down first and not the other way around. Thanks again and good luck
3* Ole Miss +7 -110: What I like: Value, Best D-Line Tech has faced all season, solid O-Line, underrated passing attack, and solid run game. My concerns: Tech's passing game.
2* Arizona -3 -110: What I like: AZ has the superior pass defense with comparable passing offenses and better stable of RB's. My concerns: BYU crowd and weather.
2* Georgia Tech -2.5 -110: What I like: Value, better coach, more efficient offense and defense. Concerns: TO's and health
2* Oregon +3.5 -110: Why I like it: Chip's rushing attack vs Pokes vulnerable front 7. Concerns: Defense
1.5* TCU -1.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: Slight advantages on Offense, defense, and coaching. Why I don't: Boise has a slightly better pass D and motivation.
1.5* Ball State -2.5 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better QB and Defense Why I don't: Tulsa's offense
1* Navy +3.5 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: beat them without Dobbs Why I don't: WF has the better D.
1* GA -6 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better coach, QB, and wideouts. Why I don't: GA Defense
1* Iowa -3 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better defense and running game Why I don't: Steve Spurrier
1* BC -3 (BM): Why I like it: Coaching, rush defense, and Vandy's offense Why I don't: BC QB play
1* Nebraska +3 -110 (Betonline) (Greek has it at -115) Why I like it: Ganz vs Clemson's secondary. Nebraska's offensive line vs Clemson's O-Line Why I don't like: Davis/Spiller and Clemson's underrated rush defense
.5* Oregon State -3 -105 (Greek): Why I like it: Moveau or Canfield over Stull, coaching, and rested front 4. Why I don't: Shady, Shady, Shady
.5* Oregon State -3 +102 (Matchbook)
.5* Penn State +10.5 -110 (Bookmaker) Why I like it: Value, balanced offense to expose USC slightly overrated defense, and solid enough D Why I don't: location and USC D
.5* UNC -1 +104 (Matchbook): Why I like it: location, solid run defense, coaching, and healthy Yates Why I don't: Pat White and UNC's lack of a great running game.
.25* FSU -4.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: talent, speed, better skill players, and solid rush defense Why I don't: Its FSU
.25* Hawaii -1.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: Its ND Why I don't: Its Hawaii
2* Arizona -3 -110: What I like: AZ has the superior pass defense with comparable passing offenses and better stable of RB's. My concerns: BYU crowd and weather.
2* Georgia Tech -2.5 -110: What I like: Value, better coach, more efficient offense and defense. Concerns: TO's and health
2* Oregon +3.5 -110: Why I like it: Chip's rushing attack vs Pokes vulnerable front 7. Concerns: Defense
1.5* TCU -1.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: Slight advantages on Offense, defense, and coaching. Why I don't: Boise has a slightly better pass D and motivation.
1.5* Ball State -2.5 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better QB and Defense Why I don't: Tulsa's offense
1* Navy +3.5 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: beat them without Dobbs Why I don't: WF has the better D.
1* GA -6 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better coach, QB, and wideouts. Why I don't: GA Defense
1* Iowa -3 -110 (Bookmaker): Why I like it: Better defense and running game Why I don't: Steve Spurrier
1* BC -3 (BM): Why I like it: Coaching, rush defense, and Vandy's offense Why I don't: BC QB play
1* Nebraska +3 -110 (Betonline) (Greek has it at -115) Why I like it: Ganz vs Clemson's secondary. Nebraska's offensive line vs Clemson's O-Line Why I don't like: Davis/Spiller and Clemson's underrated rush defense
.5* Oregon State -3 -105 (Greek): Why I like it: Moveau or Canfield over Stull, coaching, and rested front 4. Why I don't: Shady, Shady, Shady
.5* Oregon State -3 +102 (Matchbook)
.5* Penn State +10.5 -110 (Bookmaker) Why I like it: Value, balanced offense to expose USC slightly overrated defense, and solid enough D Why I don't: location and USC D
.5* UNC -1 +104 (Matchbook): Why I like it: location, solid run defense, coaching, and healthy Yates Why I don't: Pat White and UNC's lack of a great running game.
.25* FSU -4.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: talent, speed, better skill players, and solid rush defense Why I don't: Its FSU
.25* Hawaii -1.5 -110 (Greek): Why I like it: Its ND Why I don't: Its Hawaii
Live in Lincoln, NE and follow Nebraska pretty close. Talked to a guy that used to book and has done very, very well this season on his own...says he thinks Clemson is the play in that game. Big Nebraska fan too, btw.
Just a heads-up as I really respect this guy's opinion. Like your plays though. GL.
Just a heads-up as I really respect this guy's opinion. Like your plays though. GL.
Yeah a lot of my good friends which have been handicapping this sport for quite sometime have also warn me about this game. I totally understand why someone would like Clemson in this game and can probably make a case for them myself. Having said that I believe I'm on the right side for some the reasons I've mentioned. Then again I've been wrong 125 times this season so what the heck do I know.
I thank you though and wish you the best :toast:
I'm pretty sure most of you that check out my plays here don't go to the NBA thread so this a link to a play I have going tonight:
http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6145788#post6145788
http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6145788#post6145788
No problem I know your not bud. Flsunman in post #8 I posted who I was going to be on and for how many units depending on line value. I actually did this for two reasons 1) I knew that I wouldn't have computer access once the lines came out (had to phone them in) 2) I wanted those that have been loyal to me for this season to get an early jump on my plays.
GL to you
Final Card
3* Ole Miss +7 -110 (Bookmaker)(2* +6) 1.5* +4.5 till +5.5) (1.25* +4)
2* Arizona -3 -110 (Bookmaker) (1* -3.5 till -4)
2* Georgia Tech -2.5 -110 (2* up till -3) (1* -3.5 till -5.5)
2* Oregon +3.5 -110 (2* +3 +5.5) (2.5* +6) (3* +7)
1.5* TCU -1.5 -110 (Greek) (.5* -3.5 or higher)
1.5* Ball State -2.5 -110 (Bookmaker) (1* -3)
.5* Oregon State -3 -105 (Greek) (no play at -3.5 or higher)
.5* Oregon State -3 +102
1* Nebraska +3 -110
1* Navy +3.5 -110 (Bookmaker) (.75* +3) (.50* +2.5 till -2.5)
1* GA -6 -110 (Bookmaker) (.5* at -7) (no play at -7.5 or up)
1* Iowa -3 -110 (Bookmaker) (no play at -3.5 or higher)
1* BC -3 (BM) (.5* BC -3.5 till -5.5) (no play at -6 or higher)
.5* Penn State +10.5 -110 (Bookmaer) (no play +9.5 or below)
.5* UNC waiting for Matchbooks juice on this one
.25* FSU -4.5 -110 (Greek)
.25* Hawaii -1.5 -110 (Greek)
7 days more days :drink:
3* Ole Miss +7 -110 (Bookmaker)(2* +6) 1.5* +4.5 till +5.5) (1.25* +4)
2* Arizona -3 -110 (Bookmaker) (1* -3.5 till -4)
2* Georgia Tech -2.5 -110 (2* up till -3) (1* -3.5 till -5.5)
2* Oregon +3.5 -110 (2* +3 +5.5) (2.5* +6) (3* +7)
1.5* TCU -1.5 -110 (Greek) (.5* -3.5 or higher)
1.5* Ball State -2.5 -110 (Bookmaker) (1* -3)
.5* Oregon State -3 -105 (Greek) (no play at -3.5 or higher)
.5* Oregon State -3 +102
1* Nebraska +3 -110
1* Navy +3.5 -110 (Bookmaker) (.75* +3) (.50* +2.5 till -2.5)
1* GA -6 -110 (Bookmaker) (.5* at -7) (no play at -7.5 or up)
1* Iowa -3 -110 (Bookmaker) (no play at -3.5 or higher)
1* BC -3 (BM) (.5* BC -3.5 till -5.5) (no play at -6 or higher)
.5* Penn State +10.5 -110 (Bookmaer) (no play +9.5 or below)
.5* UNC waiting for Matchbooks juice on this one
.25* FSU -4.5 -110 (Greek)
.25* Hawaii -1.5 -110 (Greek)
7 days more days :drink:
