you sound like you are probably a nice guy but seriously MMA could have been confused for "hype" 3 years ago... it has since surpassed boxing.
boxing is awesome and it gives us 2 or 3 amazing fights, like the one tonight, a year... but go watch the replay of UFC 84 on spike (for free) or any of the WEC events on VERSUS (free) or DREAM 4 replay on HDNET (free)... MMA not only gives dozens of awesome fights in a year it gives a lot of them for free.
it is also better managed than boxing... if boxing was run like MMA margarito's next fight would be against floyd but instead it will probably be some chump.
boxing is amazing.. i cannot wait till the RJJ / Calzaghe fight but it is not hype and it has surpassed boxing in just about every way.
I cannot disagree that boxing is run by douche bags/idiots. Also, the next Calzaghe fight will be epic; I really think he'll destroy Jones Jr, if for no other reason than hand-speed.
My dream if I ever become a multi-millionaire, which will most likely never happen, is to "remake" the structure of boxing as we know it today so that there is one legitimate champion per weight class, etc. It's a sad, sad state of affairs that we're left to deal with now.
That said, everytime I've given MMA a chance (Liddel vs. Rampage, Kimbo vs. the guy that beat him), it has failed, in my eyes, to live up to the hype. I guess in this case we can say, "to each his own," as it seems you do have an appreciation for boxing, which, it seems, most MMA fans do not.
the problem is you cannot take a small random sample size and expect to get great fights.
can you imagine if i just purchased 2 or 3 random PPV Boxing events? chances of me getting something great are slim... my appreciation of boxing comes from 15 years of watching every event i can find.
with that said there is no doubt that the sport has gone down the tubes the more power that the fighters gain.
if you watched all of the MMA you could find for 6 months you would find action that boxing can rival but not very often.
honestly what was the last fight that was as good as tonight's cotto fight?
lots of people out there with preconceived notions that will never be over come but coming from someone who loves both sports and grew up a die hard boxing fan the current edge clearly belongs to MMA currently.
can you imagine if i just purchased 2 or 3 random PPV Boxing events? chances of me getting something great are slim... my appreciation of boxing comes from 15 years of watching every event i can find.
with that said there is no doubt that the sport has gone down the tubes the more power that the fighters gain.
if you watched all of the MMA you could find for 6 months you would find action that boxing can rival but not very often.
honestly what was the last fight that was as good as tonight's cotto fight?
lots of people out there with preconceived notions that will never be over come but coming from someone who loves both sports and grew up a die hard boxing fan the current edge clearly belongs to MMA currently.
That may be. I just can't get into it. I also see far more opportunity for corruption as I believe, and please, correct me if I'm wrong, the top of the sport is UFC, which is run by one person. This is not to say that boxing is not wrought with corruption, however, more people need to be corrupted in order to gain a significant enough edge.
I love boxing, always will, and it seems that the sport is very disrespected by those that love MMA, most of whom seem to be short attention span losers, fair or not.
The last two Pacquiao fights, for example, were incredible, if for nothing else, one man's superb athletic ability.
I still, and probably always will believe, that track and boxing are the greatest measurement of athletic ability. To me there is nothing more pure.
I love boxing, always will, and it seems that the sport is very disrespected by those that love MMA, most of whom seem to be short attention span losers, fair or not.
The last two Pacquiao fights, for example, were incredible, if for nothing else, one man's superb athletic ability.
I still, and probably always will believe, that track and boxing are the greatest measurement of athletic ability. To me there is nothing more pure.
i will leave you with this... coming from someone who loves both sports....
there are lots of guys fighting MMA that if they only focused on boxing would have plenty of potential to climb the ranks. there are lots of guys in boxing who if they had to learn jitz or kick boxing or wrestling they would be a mess.
there is no doubt to anyone who is educated in both sports that boxing is not a greater measure of athletic ability.
what you have to remember is i love boxing but it has fallen behind mma in every aspect. i hope it rebounds but without a shadow of a doubt it is second in combat sports for more reasons i care to number.
there are lots of guys fighting MMA that if they only focused on boxing would have plenty of potential to climb the ranks. there are lots of guys in boxing who if they had to learn jitz or kick boxing or wrestling they would be a mess.
there is no doubt to anyone who is educated in both sports that boxing is not a greater measure of athletic ability.
what you have to remember is i love boxing but it has fallen behind mma in every aspect. i hope it rebounds but without a shadow of a doubt it is second in combat sports for more reasons i care to number.
I~ll say two things about the Mexicans..
In soccer if you blow on him he will fall...
In boxing..You`ve got to kill him for him to fall
Busy night for me so I paid the 50 and TvO`d it..I loaded on Margarito..Too much man..Too much power for Coto..He basically tenderized him for 10 rounds and beat him to a pulp
On a side note: I do not know how the fuck 5 Dimes makes lines on that asshole Harold Lettermen scoring rounds. He is a loud mouthed idiot although tonight he was tolerable..
Good thing that other asshole Joe Cortez did not ref this fight..He would have DQ`d Margarito for hitting when Cotto`s knee was down..Joe Cortez can kiss my ass..MFer cost me big with that insane dec 4 weeks ago..
Guys load up on Vic Darchinyan now!..-200 for next Sat fight..Line is low because of his flash KO to N Donaire..I see him winning next Sat -The Menace
In soccer if you blow on him he will fall...
In boxing..You`ve got to kill him for him to fall
Busy night for me so I paid the 50 and TvO`d it..I loaded on Margarito..Too much man..Too much power for Coto..He basically tenderized him for 10 rounds and beat him to a pulp
On a side note: I do not know how the fuck 5 Dimes makes lines on that asshole Harold Lettermen scoring rounds. He is a loud mouthed idiot although tonight he was tolerable..
Good thing that other asshole Joe Cortez did not ref this fight..He would have DQ`d Margarito for hitting when Cotto`s knee was down..Joe Cortez can kiss my ass..MFer cost me big with that insane dec 4 weeks ago..
Guys load up on Vic Darchinyan now!..-200 for next Sat fight..Line is low because of his flash KO to N Donaire..I see him winning next Sat -The Menace
Can't argue with that. Boxing's done a terrible job marketing itself for years.
Margarito's wanted that fight for a long time. Has nothing to do with the way boxing's run. Simply a case of Floyd wanting no part of Marg, and after tonight that surely won't change.
I'll be at MSG for this one. Don't see how Roy can handle Joe's workrate. Shame this fight wasn't made 4-5 years ago, as RJJ would have toyed with Calzaghe. Now, there's a good chance Zags will embarrass him. Will be a great spectacle, but I'm not anticipating a great fight.
Been several great fights already in 2008 -- Vazquez/Marquez III, Pac/JMM II, Holt/Torres II (one of the best rounds ever).
Don't really understand why many even compare boxing and MMA. They're two completely different sports altogether.
i agree RJ they should not be compared. i just responded to what ASU said in his post about how mma could not hold a candle to boxing.
as far as what i said about floyd and margarito the point was that in boxing it is all up to the fighter and their "promoter"... the reason MMA reigns supreme in this regard is because it is not up to the fighter. these guys fight who they are told to fight... in boxing it is ass backwards.
we can both name a number of great fights in both sports and i live for an awesome boxing match like tonights.
as far as what i said about floyd and margarito the point was that in boxing it is all up to the fighter and their "promoter"... the reason MMA reigns supreme in this regard is because it is not up to the fighter. these guys fight who they are told to fight... in boxing it is ass backwards.
we can both name a number of great fights in both sports and i live for an awesome boxing match like tonights.
Man I also taped the fights on Showtime and CBS and watched them now..
Did you see that bad ass girl who won the first fight on CBS..The girl she beat was a bad ass submission expert herself..The chick who won was the dog too..
Cant think of her name but the baddest chick on the planet ws in the stands..And shes drop dead hot too..Conyo!
Add the tennis,MLB and abunch of other shit..Great day for sports today.
Oscar is a millionaire many times over and should not step back in the ring..Oscar looked average against Forbes who is nothing..Margarito would kill him..Why put yourself one punch away from a cerebral hemorhage?..Stay retired Oscar..
Paul Williams is no match either..Only reason he TKO`d the guy he beat 4 weeks ago is because the guy came out too confident..unlike the first fight he beat Williams skinny ass..
I pretty much agree with ASU's comment. But I'm completely bias in that I'm a huge boxing guy, while I don't understand the fascination with MMA in the least.
Already a number of great fights lined up the rest of the year.
Diaz/Katsidis: Has the potential to provide even more action than tonight. Katsidis' fights are always worth watching, and Diaz is similar to Margarito in that he only knows one direction -- forward. Diaz will drill him, but it will be fun to watch.
Zags/RJJ: Five years too late, but two legends at MSG will still be special.
Campbell/Guzman: Great contrast in styles.
Dawson/Tarver: Finally someone to shut up the delusional Tarver. Watching Tarver go to sleep will be priceless.
Hatton/Malignaggi: Probably won't be the most entertaining fight, but it's always enjoyable seeing Hatton lose, and a +200 dog giving him a boxing lesson will make up for Ricky's constant holding and Paulie's lack of power.
It was my impression that Mayweather retired because he realized he would be forced to fight Cotto. Mayweater never contemplated fighting Margarita. Can you imagine a little guy like Mayweather in the ring with Tony. Cotto is what i call a good "commercial fighter" Margarito is what fighters call a policeman.
Absolutely not. There is not ONE MMA guy who can make it in boxing. Would you like to know how I know as much? Boxers get paid better than MMA fighters. The fact is if they could be a boxer, they would be. It's just common sense. You can say that MMA fighters have to learn more things but lets be honest. Most of them are the best in the world at none of them. The UFC does a BRILLIANT job marketing but the truth is the fights can't match up to a truly great fight like tonight. Not that it matters most people aren't that bright anyways. I like MMA and I like boxing but the truth is a fight like tonight can't be matched by MMA.
Of course, there are great fights on almost a weekly basis. Lost in the Marg/Cotto classic is the fact the undercard turned out to be much better than expected, including the Canchila/Segura fight, which was nothing but action.
The reason for pointing out the bigger matches is that's what appeals to the casual fan. For freaks like you and I, we're already hooked.
