Romo is the most overrated in football? Did Eli retire with Strahan or is the Trent Dilfer of the Giants retire?
Lol, I know a lot of people hate the cowboys but he is a very good player. He certainly is a top 5 qb. Eli is also certainly not a top 10 qb just like Dilfer wasn't, just like Hostetler wasn't, Mark Rypien, etc, etc. A lot of teams have won with defense.
Also, we'll see what happens to Eli when it hits the point where the running game isn't working and they're down by 10 points. I find it funny people talk about Romo and turnovers (true) and then say that's why they prefer Eli. Has anyone made as many dumb throws as him the last 3 years?
Lol, I know a lot of people hate the cowboys but he is a very good player. He certainly is a top 5 qb. Eli is also certainly not a top 10 qb just like Dilfer wasn't, just like Hostetler wasn't, Mark Rypien, etc, etc. A lot of teams have won with defense.
Also, we'll see what happens to Eli when it hits the point where the running game isn't working and they're down by 10 points. I find it funny people talk about Romo and turnovers (true) and then say that's why they prefer Eli. Has anyone made as many dumb throws as him the last 3 years?
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Romo against the Browns - 24 of 32, 320 yards, TD and 1 INT.
Eli against the Browns - 18 of 26, 186 yards, TD and 3 INT.
Romo on the season - 1,689 yards, 14 TD, 5 INT, 103.5 Passer Rating
Eli on the season - 1,218 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT
I know the Giants haven't played as many games as the Cowboys, but even if they had, his stats still wouldn't be as good as Romo's. The Giants played 3 shitty teams in the first 4 weeks, so Eli's stats were inflated and misleading.
Still think Eli is the better QB? I would hope not.
Romo is so talented he was sitting on the bench for 4 something years?? LMFAO...no coach could even see that he was better than, hmm..what's his name, I forget already...the loser that got hurt when Brady tookover. Just so happened Parcells had no choice but to change quarterbacks at the time, and with all the talent Dallas has he better be putting up good numbers since he knew that system in and out before he started. DALLAS HAS THE MOST TALENT IN THEIR ROSTER. PPL are so blind...it's not Romo for all u Cowboy Homos.
Yes I do.
BUT I will tell you what the problem is with Dallas and Romo.
First Dallas has a lame duck coach. They will never win a Super Bowl with Wade Phillips. Second is Jerry Jones. As long as Jones has his hands on coaching/managing they won't win a Super Bowl. He needs to stay in the booth and watch.
The same goes for Romo. He needs a better coach to help him cut down on his mistakes and to keep him from being to "Hollywood".
As for Eli....Yes he did look like Eli of old, but I think it was a fluke. That game was the perfect "TRAP" for the Giants. I still think they win the division though.
As for Cleveland....I say they lose to Washington on Sunday. They are still overated and it was a HUGE mistake to give Anderson that extension.
Anyway we have a difference on opinion, but that's constructive criticism for you.
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God, where do you start in this trainwreck of a thread.
First off, it drives me crazy to see this and other sites talking lists. Who are the best 3 QB's in the league.....you can ask this question to 100 people and get 100 different answers...hell, you can ask every GM in the NFL and get 32 different answers. Who cares what your list is compared to everyone else's. Some here believe that Romo is the top 3, some believe he is not even top 5. What is the point of the argument? Romo is a good QB, who is working on becoming elite....getting to elite means cutting down on the "gunslinger" plays, and winning a playoff game.
Brad Johnson - a serviceable backup, who should probably beat the Rams, but the problem is going to be his lack of mobility against teams with good pass rushes, especially those who don't have to blitz to get pressure...Tampa and the NY Giants I had marked as W's at the beginning of the season, now not so sure. The offense will have a much different look, I can guarantee you that. Plus, he doesn't have the arm strength that Bledsoe had a few years back, so even when he does have time, he will have to make more precise touch throws.
Other things about comments here.
-To put Matt Ryan in the same class as Tony Romo right now is a little premature
-Who cares how long Romo sat the bench before he started...Parcells knew what he had, which is why he didn't cut him for 4 years. It is unusual for a QB from Eastern Illinois to in year 1 and become a star. Romo is good because he learned while sitting. More teams have been going to this strategy.
-Whoever made the points about Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones were dead on. One reason the Cowboys are only 4-2 is because of lack of attention to detail and undisciplined play, especially on special teams and in the secondary. This falls on the head coach to make sure your team is focused in every sense. In regards to Jerry Jones, my biggest fear is this - the Cowboys are talented enough to go to the Super Bowl...this talent will only stick around for a few years - you only have a small window of opportunity to win it all in the NFL. Parcells built this team pretty much top to bottom, and with him gone, once all of the talent starts to migrate around the league, Jerry Jones will be the guy that starts to retool the team. Not good. Quincy Carter was not a good enough QB to be drafted in the 5th round.....where did JJ take him? 2nd round.
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First off, it drives me crazy to see this and other sites talking lists. Who are the best 3 QB's in the league.....you can ask this question to 100 people and get 100 different answers...hell, you can ask every GM in the NFL and get 32 different answers. Who cares what your list is compared to everyone else's. Some here believe that Romo is the top 3, some believe he is not even top 5. What is the point of the argument? Romo is a good QB, who is working on becoming elite....getting to elite means cutting down on the "gunslinger" plays, and winning a playoff game.
Brad Johnson - a serviceable backup, who should probably beat the Rams, but the problem is going to be his lack of mobility against teams with good pass rushes, especially those who don't have to blitz to get pressure...Tampa and the NY Giants I had marked as W's at the beginning of the season, now not so sure. The offense will have a much different look, I can guarantee you that. Plus, he doesn't have the arm strength that Bledsoe had a few years back, so even when he does have time, he will have to make more precise touch throws.
Other things about comments here.
-To put Matt Ryan in the same class as Tony Romo right now is a little premature
-Who cares how long Romo sat the bench before he started...Parcells knew what he had, which is why he didn't cut him for 4 years. It is unusual for a QB from Eastern Illinois to in year 1 and become a star. Romo is good because he learned while sitting. More teams have been going to this strategy.
-Whoever made the points about Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones were dead on. One reason the Cowboys are only 4-2 is because of lack of attention to detail and undisciplined play, especially on special teams and in the secondary. This falls on the head coach to make sure your team is focused in every sense. In regards to Jerry Jones, my biggest fear is this - the Cowboys are talented enough to go to the Super Bowl...this talent will only stick around for a few years - you only have a small window of opportunity to win it all in the NFL. Parcells built this team pretty much top to bottom, and with him gone, once all of the talent starts to migrate around the league, Jerry Jones will be the guy that starts to retool the team. Not good. Quincy Carter was not a good enough QB to be drafted in the 5th round.....where did JJ take him? 2nd round.
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I agree with the Wade Phillips comment. I don't think he's a good coach. I do think Jason Garrett is going to be a great coach when he takes over (which I think happens next year). As far as Jerry Jones goes, he does have to much control but that didn't stop the Cowboys from winning 3 Superbowls in the 90's.
Eli is back to his old form and will continue to have trouble against average/good teams. He'll never be Peyton. I don't think Romo is a top 3 QB yet (makes to many mistakes), but I believe in the next 2-3 years he will be. I think in the next 2-3 years Eli will be a backup somewhere, just like David Carr who is currently backing him up.
I get nobody here likes Romo, but there is nobody I would even think of taking ahead of Romo, Brady and Manning. Nobody touches these three imo, and right after them I'd put another unpopular pick in Carson Palmer when he's healthy. Jay Cutler is another top QB that I would take over fan favorites like Eli Manning and Donovan McNabb. Eli Manning isn't that great guys. He's a good QB and was the most underrated last year until his playoff run, and now he is the most overrated by a good amount. One playoff run changes peoples minds way too quickly. People talk shit about Romo because he hasn't won a playoff game. HE'S PLAYED 1 AND A HALF YEARS IN THE NFL! Way too low of a sample size to say he isn't good come playoff time. You play last years playoffs over 1000 times and Dallas reps the NFC more often than anyone, that is a fact. Too bad it's only played once and the Giants won, and deservingly so.
I'm just saying Romo has a ton of talent and you can't base your dislike of him off the two playoff games. If I have an NFL team this year, with Brady hurt, the only guy I'd prefer behind my center is Peyton Manning, and he's the best QB of all time. I'd trade any other QB straight up for Tony Romo (discounting age for the younger guys like Cutler).
I'm just saying Romo has a ton of talent and you can't base your dislike of him off the two playoff games. If I have an NFL team this year, with Brady hurt, the only guy I'd prefer behind my center is Peyton Manning, and he's the best QB of all time. I'd trade any other QB straight up for Tony Romo (discounting age for the younger guys like Cutler).
BUT...Jimmy Johnson had most of the control back then. He is the one that built that team through the draft. He took a team that went 1-15 his first year to the playoffs in three years. Then Jerry Jones ego took over and forced Johnson out. Switzer's SB victory came due to Johnson's team & Neil O'Donnel. Remember that SB Pittsburgh dominated Dallas. It was those two picks to Larry Brown ran back for TD's that gave Dallas the victory.
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