Revenge Games - Circled Games

[GoSooners]

Tulsa vs Houston

Tulsa played by far their worst game of the year against Houston and got lit up 70-30 in Houston. They get them at home this year. Also, the Tulsa schedule isn't complete yet within their conference. But if they should get East Carolina on their schedule they'll be looking for revenge in that one too since their 8 turnovers against EC cost them the CUSA title.

 

[Gator627]

wow, seems i hit a nerve, who said anything about Kiffin?

i think Meyers problems started when he lied to Jarvis Snead telling him he was recruiting Tebow as a LB

really thats what hurts your team in the end - if you lie to players its hard to keep them coming in

he had a good run at Florida,he will do good at Notre Dame too, and maybe Charlie Strong will finally get the chance he to be a HC that he deserves

We've had two top 5 classes in recruiting since Jevan Snead was recruited.....It ain't getting any easier for your Vols. ~~:<<

From Rivals since they are the most popular/recognized.
2006 - #2 ranked class
2007 - #1 ranked class
2008 - #3 ranked class
2009- #10 ranked class (very small class)

So, how exactly did the recruitment of 2006 QB Jevan Snead hurt us?

Yup, burned this bridge:

“I’m sure, at least for a short period of time, there will be strained relations with Urban and the Florida coaches,” Weiner told the AJC on Wednesday. “But eventually we’ll be back to business. I’ll have other players that the University of Florida will want in future years, and I’d love to get players to the University of Florida. Anytime you have two players so highly recruited, things can get pretty intense. But in the end, there are no hard feelings. Everything will be OK.”

Check out how Pahokee feels about Tennessee, if you want to see a real burned bridge. hno:

 

[Gravy]

Thursday Sept 3

NC State vs South Carolina


Wolfpack owes them from last years 34-0 shutout in Columbia on ESPN


Sat Sept 5


Maryland vs California


Tedford I think will payback the Fridge from last year here and long trip for the Terps

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

i just hope the florida/tenn line doesnt get out of hand. its most likely meyer will want to embarrass kiffin so if i play it will be the second the line comes out. im sure it will get spiked up as the week goes on.

Don't worry about waiting til the week of the game. Beg, borrow, or steal -- get to Vegas in August. Play college games of the year at the Hilton. I'm going against Tennessee with every decent team I can get. Florida, Alabama, Georgia (maybe less here cause it's at Knoxville with a new Georgia QB) .... Take your pick. Kiffin is a fool with a big mouth and a bad quarterback. Unqualified for the job. Kiffin was mocking Saban too after stealing the recruiting guy.

The only reason to wait on the Florida game is if you think Tennessee gets a boost from possibly beating UCLA at home in week1. If Tennessee loses though -- you're screwed and the line will be even higher. Myself I'll be making the biggest bet I can come August at the Hilton. If Tennessee beats UCLA and starts getting respected --- then I play more.

It ain't just Meyer. Tebow is the best leader in college football. That guy WONT let his coach down. Brandon Spikes is the best linebacker in college football. And this game is in the Swamp.

Good angles on some of the other games.

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

does Lane Kiffin play defense ? does he coach defense?

Monte Kiffin is the most proven defensive coach in the world. thats who Florida has to score on to run up a score....do you guys not understand that ?

if Mike Tyson called me names, id be mad - but i still couldnt kick his ass

You're kidding right. Most proven defensive coach in the world. Aint even the best defensive coach in the state of Tennessee. That honor belongs to Mr. Fisher. If you're going to say that Monte Kiffin is a better defensive coach than Belichek, Saban, Carroll, Dick Lebeau etc. it's the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

 

[itsallabouttheloot]

We've had two top 5 classes in recruiting since Jevan Snead was recruited.....It ain't getting any easier for your Vols. ~~:<<

From Rivals since they are the most popular/recognized.
2006 - #2 ranked class
2007 - #1 ranked class
2008 - #3 ranked class
2009- #10 ranked class (very small class)

So, how exactly did the recruitment of 2006 QB Jevan Snead hurt us?

Yup, burned this bridge:



Check out how Pahokee feels about Tennessee, if you want to see a real burned bridge. hno:

You forgot a couple important points....
2006-2007 bcs championship
2008-2009 bcs championship

Jevon Sneed is a talented guy but I don't think the Gators have missed him much.

 

[CoachCB]

You're kidding right. Most proven defensive coach in the world. Aint even the best defensive coach in the state of Tennessee. That honor belongs to Mr. Fisher. If you're going to say that Monte Kiffin is a better defensive coach than Belichek, Saban, Carroll, Dick Lebeau etc. it's the funniest thing I've heard in a while.

No. I'm pretty sure he's serious! Must be the moonshine.....

 

[russ1945]

Tulsa vs Houston

Tulsa played by far their worst game of the year against Houston and got lit up 70-30 in Houston. They get them at home this year. Also, the Tulsa schedule isn't complete yet within their conference. But if they should get East Carolina on their schedule they'll be looking for revenge in that one too since their 8 turnovers against EC cost them the CUSA title.

They had 5 TO's against Houston too. According to Steel's list Houston returns 8 on offense including the QB. I thought Kevin Kolb was the QB and he graduates. Do you know anything about that?

 

[CoachCB]

How much will Tulsa's offense be effected by the loss of Gus Malzahn?

 

[russ1945]

How much will Tulsa's offense be effected by the loss of Gus Malzahn?

Good point. You lose your OC/QB Coach and your starting QB. Gotta hurt. They lost RB Adams too. Surely they don't change the system just the coach. What is Malzahn's connection to Chizik? Also, is it just me but it looks like Chizik's biggest successes were as an assistant. It is really hard to judge someone who coached at Iowa St. By hiring Malzahn he obviously sees that he needs to add some octane to their Offense. Also must mean a bigger paycheck for Malzahn who I think deserves it.

 

[GoSooners]

Personally I think the jury is still out on Malzahn...Until 2006 this guy was coaching highschool football. He didn't make a great impression when he was at Arkansas. And who knows how much he had to do with the jest of Graham's offense. And since Graham was an OC/QB coach before, my guess is no matter who comes in, he is the one who is going to be large and in charge. As for Tulsa's QB situation, it was a pretty close dogfight between three players last season with Johnson narrowly winning out. And as far as I know all of those other candidtates are back. Last year Tulsa was mainly a run slash play action pass team. But they have two big losses their going to have to deal with. RB Adams who was a 3,000 yard career rusher. And WR Marion, who was their big play wideout. So I would be a little surprised if Tulsa matches the great season on offense they had this year regardless of which OC comes in. But the good news for them is they lose only 8 senior starters. So I don't expect a big dropoff overall. Graham is just too good of a coach. He'll find a formula for them to get it done. As for Houston, first year coach Sumlin, who coached under Stoops, had a better than expected first season. But I believe a lot of that success was because he had so many returning starters. Especially on the O and D lines. Although they lose only 9 seniors overall, they lose pretty much all of their OL. But the good news is they still have QB Keenum, and that great RB Beall, who was just a true freshman last year. So if he doesn't suffer the sophomore jinx running behind a new line, Houston should be fairly decent on offense. But like Tulsa, they may not be quite as effective as last year. Both of these teams fisnished the season ranked below #80 on defense. Which is a big reason why neither won their conference. So that's where they need to make their biggest improvement if either hope to win their conference. I just don't like the fact that Houston also loses pretty much all of their DL too. They retain their skill players, but lose all of their big uglies. So I would say advantage Tulsa.

 

[russ1945]

Two things for sure about Tulsa LY. 1. They played much better at home than on the road. 2. When Johnson had a bad game.....they lost. Again, turnovers did them in more than once. I think they have plenty of WR's and if they replace Johnson they will be able to score. It is really cliche, but when you see a team with a good offense you have to say they need to improve on defense, and visa versa. The more you research the truer it gets. Most teams are stronger if not much stronger on one side of the ball than the other. Steele shows 9 returning on defense which I am not so sure about. They did lose Chamberlain who I thought was an impact player. As far as circle games go this has to be on the Tulsa bulletin board. It will get their full attention. And they get Houston at home this time. Looks like a circle to me.

 

[russ1945]

Last year B.C. shutout N.Dame 17-0. It was the first shut out for either team since the series began in 1975. N.D. had a 5-0 T.O. deficit and Clausen threw an int that was ret'd 76 yards for a TD. This has to be a circle game. N.D. lost despite a 292-246 ydg edge. This year they play in South Bend. However, they play the week after N.D. hosts USC. I guess we will have to see how that turns out first.

 

[919]

East Carolina at WVU Sept 12

 

[russ1945]

East Carolina at WVU Sept 12

I guess you are talking about a revenge game for WVU. What do you see in the post Pat White era. E.Car was 9-4 Ly with 8 back on each side of the ball and Pinkney back ( I think). EC started off LY with wins over VT and WVU both. Is WVU a sleeper in 2009?

 

[RunLeeRun]

Nebraska vs Missouri, Oct 8th. Nebraska has two losses in a row, lost in Lincoln for the first time since 1978. Pelini knows he doesn't have the guns to take down Texas or Oklahoma, this is his must win game to keep the fans and potential recruits thinking he has them coming back to old Nebraska form.

 

[russ1945]

Nebraska vs Missouri, Oct 8th. Nebraska has two losses in a row, lost in Lincoln for the first time since 1978. Pelini knows he doesn't have the guns to take down Texas or Oklahoma, this is his must win game to keep the fans and potential recruits thinking he has them coming back to old Nebraska form.

Nice one. That one could get ugly.

 

[bigtendominator]

I guess you are talking about a revenge game for WVU. What do you see in the post Pat White era. E.Car was 9-4 Ly with 8 back on each side of the ball and Pinkney back ( I think). EC started off LY with wins over VT and WVU both. Is WVU a sleeper in 2009?

WVU returns 8 on defense. Don't know much about their offense yet.

Looking like an early under.

Great thred you started Russ.

If we could get a little less homerism ( I have been just as guilty) and people analyzing games instead of saying my Johnson is bigger and badder than yours, we all will benefit.

 

[everythingthatsgreen]

WVU is going to be more solid than the average person thinks.

Brown is a vet, he hasn't played a lot of QB but he has played and he is a senior. A key to the offense is the fate of Jock Sanders, he is just as important to the offense as Devine is.

The defense will be good, they have some holes on the OL to fill up but WV usually has some guys to play on the OL.

Now, their in-game coaching can use a ton of work.

 

[russ1945]

WVU returns 8 on defense. Don't know much about their offense yet.

Looking like an early under.

Great thred you started Russ.

If we could get a little less homerism ( I have been just as guilty) and people analyzing games instead of saying my Johnson is bigger and badder than yours, we all will benefit.

I agree. It is all about honesty and trust also. We can expand our horizons by sharing. I will listen to a homer on both sides on a given game but I can still decide one way or another or to pass. But any way you look at it you can expand your horizons in the process. I think early revenge games and circled games are a pretty good thing to zero in on especially early in the season. Any time a team is focused on a game you can usually expect an all out effort. That is about all you can ever ask for.
I am using my other thread like a bulletin board that can be used for reference throughout the season. I know it is very early on but I am amazed at the wealth of useful information that is already out there. It is an ongoing process that can benefit everyone who contributes.