The simple and clear point I've been trying to make is that both Creationism
and Evolution require faith. I'm ridiculed on here for being a Creationist,
when those ridiculing me have a belief system that requires
(in my opinion) more faith than Creationism.
[ In a forum of mostly degenerate gamblers, I expect to have a large
crowd of liberals, atheists, and evolutionists. ]
If my detractors on here were honest, they would admit that the
above is true.
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http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Eno...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1232770594&sr=1-1
way back in the day, when two simple celled creatures mated, we had all kinds of results.
Imagine what the creatures thought when one of their offspring was a bird, another was a crocodile and their third child was a little boy.
The bird and the crocodile mated, and a Zebra was born. The Zebra mated with one of it's simple celled great grandparents, and gave us a fly.
The rest is history
Did you know? a scientist can look at an air bubble found within a glacier that's thousands of years old and prove there is man made global warming, but he still can't predict next weekend's weather accurately?
I love those scientific stone cold facts
anyone care to discuss the big boom?
Imagine what the creatures thought when one of their offspring was a bird, another was a crocodile and their third child was a little boy.
The bird and the crocodile mated, and a Zebra was born. The Zebra mated with one of it's simple celled great grandparents, and gave us a fly.
The rest is history
Did you know? a scientist can look at an air bubble found within a glacier that's thousands of years old and prove there is man made global warming, but he still can't predict next weekend's weather accurately?
I love those scientific stone cold facts
anyone care to discuss the big boom?
Jesus Christ (pardon the poor choice of interjection), but please hold on one minute. You have to tell me that you don't come here to find out what opinions hold in the US. The nut jobs here are a fringe element that are in no way representative of American public opinion. Lord knows we've messed up a lot of stuff but please don't think us so bad that the kooks and nuts around here are any indication of what people (taken in the aggregate) think in this country. Please set the record straight cuz now I'm the one who's gong to have nightmares thinking there are people out there in the world who think what goes on in this forum is the least bit indicative of American attitudes, dispositions, or capacity for rational thought and/or discourse.
Interesting thread. In many instances what one believe's comes down to how they were brought up. I don't really remember going to church very much at all my entire childhood because my mother always worked on Sundays. But here' s something that has always amazed me.....
What's the one day out of the year many people celebrate one way or another, be it, spending time with family, giving gifts, helping feed the homeless, I think you get the point....I'm sure every single person on this forum knows I'm talking about Christmas.
Whether you believe in Jesus or not isn't the point. What I find so amazing is that so much of the world celebrates this one day for a guy who some would say was just a carpenter, others may say he didn't even exist, and others might say he was just a prophet. Whatever the case may be this was someone who hasn't been around for 2000 years, and yet we're still celebrating his birthday.
2000 years ago there was no TV, there was no radio, there was no internet, and yet 2000 years later many of us celebrate this one day whether we believe or not. Of course not everyone celebrates, for some it may be as simple as just not having to go to work that day. How many times has someone told you Merry Christmas! Have a Merry Christmas? Or you wished them a Merry Christmas. Fact is you're acknowledging this one day whether you like it or not.
What are the chances of us picking someone's birthday off this forum and having the whole world celebrate that one day by spending time with family, giving gifts, showing acts of kindness. I would have to say that we would have a much greater chance of having the world celebrate (insert any forum poster's name) than a bunch of people who lived 2000 years ago, due to the fact that we have access to the internet and TV.
I'm not a religious nut or anything but I have to admit that it just doesn't sound logical to me that so much of the world would celebrate this day for someone who was just a carpenter or didnt' even exist at all, especially someone's who has been gone for 2000 years.
What's the one day out of the year many people celebrate one way or another, be it, spending time with family, giving gifts, helping feed the homeless, I think you get the point....I'm sure every single person on this forum knows I'm talking about Christmas.
Whether you believe in Jesus or not isn't the point. What I find so amazing is that so much of the world celebrates this one day for a guy who some would say was just a carpenter, others may say he didn't even exist, and others might say he was just a prophet. Whatever the case may be this was someone who hasn't been around for 2000 years, and yet we're still celebrating his birthday.
2000 years ago there was no TV, there was no radio, there was no internet, and yet 2000 years later many of us celebrate this one day whether we believe or not. Of course not everyone celebrates, for some it may be as simple as just not having to go to work that day. How many times has someone told you Merry Christmas! Have a Merry Christmas? Or you wished them a Merry Christmas. Fact is you're acknowledging this one day whether you like it or not.
What are the chances of us picking someone's birthday off this forum and having the whole world celebrate that one day by spending time with family, giving gifts, showing acts of kindness. I would have to say that we would have a much greater chance of having the world celebrate (insert any forum poster's name) than a bunch of people who lived 2000 years ago, due to the fact that we have access to the internet and TV.
I'm not a religious nut or anything but I have to admit that it just doesn't sound logical to me that so much of the world would celebrate this day for someone who was just a carpenter or didnt' even exist at all, especially someone's who has been gone for 2000 years.
Why does the entire world recognize this as the year 2009 for some guy who didn't even exist?
Everytime someone writes the date they're admitting that he existed, almost like God's saying the jokes on us if we don't believe.
Amazing that some people could create such a myth and get the entire world to go along with it for the rest of history.
If he's just a myth why aren't we celebrating Superman, Batman, and the Green Lantern's birthday's....Look at how many people they've helped out.
Everytime someone writes the date they're admitting that he existed, almost like God's saying the jokes on us if we don't believe.
Amazing that some people could create such a myth and get the entire world to go along with it for the rest of history.
If he's just a myth why aren't we celebrating Superman, Batman, and the Green Lantern's birthday's....Look at how many people they've helped out.
It never ceases to amaze my how little people know when they try to make arguments.
"Christian time" (taking the supposed year of the birth of Jesus as year 1 and counting up from that) was introduced around the year 500 and slowly spread in Europe. And because Europe was the most important factor in the newer history, in the past few hundred years it has spread to most of the world. Before that, every culture had their own year counts, many still have. Believing that there is any significance in some Christian monk, several hundred years after the fact, creating a new system of counting the years from something he read or heard about and strongly believed in is like saying the success of the metric system is proof that Atheism is correct.
Posts like these show that you are not at all interested in a sensible discussion. You know very well that what you wrote here is total bullshit, but of course it's much easier to ridicule a theory if you grossly misrepresent it. Or do you honestly have no idea how evolution works? Or that predicting future developments, especially such chaotic ones as weather, will always be infinitely more difficult than getting information about past events from definite data.
Nonsense.
The prevailing religious and political leaders of the first few generations after Christ's death may well have acknowledged his existence.
But the subsequent almost two millenia were mostly folks just using the convenient shared followup to that first century of dating.
Preussen, I actually lean evolution, but it's an imperfect scientific theory, that's the point I'm making. Just like a lot of other imperfect scientific theories.
When they can cure the common cold and predict next week's weather with 90% accuracy, maybe I'll begin to have absolute faith in such theories.
the biggest scientific theory of the day, man made global warming, is bullshit IMHO. There is far too much contradictory evidence for any argument they make, but Gorebullshitists ignore whatever evidence doesn't fit into their cookie cutter mold. Too me, science has morphed into something of a political debate. Then again, maybe it always has been part politics.
BTW: with respect to an analysis of past events, all you need to do is tweak an assumed variable here or there, and pigs can fly. Don't think people don't find ways to attain their desired result.
I think we went in different directions or something like that. A fine example of an inexact science.
So you are telling him to believe all these scienctist and what they say about there way of knowing how old the earth is, but him believing in the bible is just plain ridiculous or gullible? It would seem that these scienctist's would make great gambler's. But I am sure they have better thing's to disprove of...
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