I've studied science vs. creation, I'm just fighting trying to stay up! (I'm tired) It's been years since I engaged in this sort of discussion. Funny that the "BS" portion is called out on MY side, when this was all started with the attack on Adam and Eve. No research done on THAT side and Creationists beliefs or theories. I've freely stated I could be wrong... that's why it's called faith. Everyone else hangs their hat on science, yet that's debated as well. Nothing we're discussing is very elementary, is it?
Spelling isnt a problem but sometimes i get lazy and dont use the proper grammar. Its not a question of not knowing it, it just a matter of not taking the time to do it properly. And as far as beliefs, i prefer to deal in logic. Beliefs get people killed. And unless its in a state of Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium, evolution is always going on. It just takes many many many million years for you to see tangible results. Humans have been here for what 200k years? that is nothing in 4 billion years on earth. You're a smelly pirate hooker.
the Adam/Eve point is moot, its a given that anything that 'can be perceived' as contradicting can either be reinterpreted or just said that 'we can't understand what 'insert god' was trying to say, we are too stupid to understand but we may when we go to 'insert place where the good guys go' ) or 'that is not suposed to be literal but THIS other stuff is '
you want science to go after EVERY 'creationist belief or theory' ? :lolBIG: (very good tactique that would be......distract them with all sort of nutty ideas .....budget on scientific research is very limited...therefore no time left to do actual research)
time might be infinite but so is the number of crazy beliefs that any of the gazillion religions of the World can come up with
I normally just read this forum to see what opinions come up from the US (as I am not an US citizen/resident) and its clear that scientific/critical thinking is on a total downfall over there
anyone believes they can 'destroy' any scientific idea with or without having a clue as to what they are trying to attack, the guy that sells newspapers knows that astronomy is bs, the guy that flips burgers jokes that the explanation of everything is 'an accident'
'its all the same, its faith, you can't prove anything, its all bs' that SUPOSEDLY destroys any rational thing that science can bring
the rest of you Americans that are not totally mentally impaired better do something quick as I have no desire to learn a different language such as Chinese or defend myself against some sort of modern age Crusade.....
btw I am going to bed soon (to have nightmares after this thread of course)
you want science to go after EVERY 'creationist belief or theory' ? :lolBIG: (very good tactique that would be......distract them with all sort of nutty ideas .....budget on scientific research is very limited...therefore no time left to do actual research)
time might be infinite but so is the number of crazy beliefs that any of the gazillion religions of the World can come up with
I normally just read this forum to see what opinions come up from the US (as I am not an US citizen/resident) and its clear that scientific/critical thinking is on a total downfall over there
anyone believes they can 'destroy' any scientific idea with or without having a clue as to what they are trying to attack, the guy that sells newspapers knows that astronomy is bs, the guy that flips burgers jokes that the explanation of everything is 'an accident'
'its all the same, its faith, you can't prove anything, its all bs' that SUPOSEDLY destroys any rational thing that science can bring
the rest of you Americans that are not totally mentally impaired better do something quick as I have no desire to learn a different language such as Chinese or defend myself against some sort of modern age Crusade.....
btw I am going to bed soon (to have nightmares after this thread of course)
Reading comprehension is fine but you are going on a tangent
'it's what I believe and its my faith" its a condecending way to say "its all bs this nonsense you are talking about"
you know it and I know it, I am sorry if I have to call you on that
barman....don't send any life preserver....he is going to heaven while I will suffer (if he is right of course)
send me a beer though :toast:
btw the only reason this thread is not already on page 10 is because the guys that post articles right out of the 'creationist manual for world conquest' are sleeping or still bitching/hungover about Obama and all that stuff, otherwise posts with thousands of lines would have been here 1 hour ago LOL
I should have stopped reading at this point at the latest, as it shows that you are totally ignorant in this matter.
Nothing stopped, evolution is going on all around us. It's just that naturally things move much too slow to be visible. But look, for example, at all the diverse dog races that have been bred. All of them originally came from wolves, and people did nothing else than selecting which animals would mate. Of course the direction of development was artificial but anyone who sees what wolves can turn into in just a few hundred or thousand years can have no doubt that huge changes may happen naturally over billions of years.
That some ancient apes evolved into our human species had to do with, among other things, a lot of chance and is very unlikely to be repeated. However, I do believe that a long-term scientific breeding project with, for example, Orang-Utans could produce a significantly intelligent species. Of course such an experiment would probably not be ethical.
The followers of the religion of Darwinism on here want to spout out
lots of hot air about the supposed age of the universe, but they
don't want to talk about the origin of life on this here planet,
because they have absolutely no clue.
Even their venerated Richard Dawkins supposes that life started here
because an alien came here and blew a load of sperm to seed life on
this planet. The sheer stupidity of this statement begs the question,
who seeded life where this alien came from?
Darwin had no clue, he supposed that all life here came from swamp goo.
Then we have this brilliant quote from Richard Dawkins:
"Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...
life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...
life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but
blind pitiless indifference."
This is the logical conclusion that all atheists must come to.
lots of hot air about the supposed age of the universe, but they
don't want to talk about the origin of life on this here planet,
because they have absolutely no clue.
Even their venerated Richard Dawkins supposes that life started here
because an alien came here and blew a load of sperm to seed life on
this planet. The sheer stupidity of this statement begs the question,
who seeded life where this alien came from?
Darwin had no clue, he supposed that all life here came from swamp goo.
Then we have this brilliant quote from Richard Dawkins:
"Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...
life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...
life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but
blind pitiless indifference."
This is the logical conclusion that all atheists must come to.
God really didn't address this issue until he commanded Moses in Leviticus. It's really hard to know exactly how the earth was originally populated because it doesn't say for sure. Genisis does lack some detail in this area probably because Moses wrote the book many years later without being an eye witness to these things. Genisis 4:14 however does point out that Cain was fearful of others killing him when he was sent to wander the earth, which leads some to believe that others had been created at this point.
ZIT: Even their venerated Richard Dawkins supposes that life started here because an alien came here and blew a load of sperm to seed life on this planet.
B: Some sects of Christianity believe that a supernatural being blew a load of sperm into a virgin human to create Jesus.
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Z: Darwin had no clue, he supposed that all life here came from swamp goo.
B: Some sects of Christianity believe that all life here came from "dust" (dry swamp goo)
Speculation Is Fun!
B: Some sects of Christianity believe that a supernatural being blew a load of sperm into a virgin human to create Jesus.
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Z: Darwin had no clue, he supposed that all life here came from swamp goo.
B: Some sects of Christianity believe that all life here came from "dust" (dry swamp goo)
Speculation Is Fun!
I will see if I can do a C&P from the DMN but in the meantime, the god did it like the book says boys, have been fighting a Nobel battle against science and common sense so that they may have an alternative theory taught in public schools. They have lost so in an end run play they want it taught that there are gaps in the theory of evolution. If they get this in they can raise holy hell about it being not a complete science. In a rare display of a spine, the board voted against them.
