Religious question Adam and Eve

[Kiln]

I forget where I'm posting sometimes. No worries, I can take it.
:missingte

You're a good sport, then. And being a good sport is underrated. So props to you.

 

[COVERIT!]

another classic example of 'gullible'

goes on diatribes against things they don't have a clue of, like 'carbon dating'

call the others 'know it all' as if it is a sin to know something about something and point out the naivete

then plays the 'poor me I am a victim because of my beliefs'

pitiful

No victim or pity here at all buddy. So be it. Doesn't do me any good to argue in here, no skin off my back.
Didn't know you were an expert on carbon dating.
I'm not a know it all.
Not calling anybody a sinner in here. I'm a sinner, I'll say that much. Not my place to judge.

 

[COVERIT!]

to say that you can't prove something you would have to understand first what is there to prove/disprove

1 buck says that you can't properly the current state of affairs of the multiple scientific disciplines that you claim 'are all bs'

If I could understand what you were trying to type, maybe....

 

[wolfie_cr]

If I could understand what you were trying to type, maybe....

ok let's try it this way

you say 'the big bang is bs'

I say, go and tell that to the 'nutjobs' that claim its not.....you know...physicists,cosmologists, astronomers etc

they 'cant prove it' but you can surely show them the source of their mistake......right?

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Unknown? As is any other theory people on here are talking about. Nobody can prove evolution, the big bang, none of it.
However, because I am religious, I'm weak and everyone else isn't. Makes sense.

The Big Bang and Evolution are provable. Your saying they are not?? hno: :missingte

Beliefs when it comes to religion, are not based in science. They are based on past experiences or traditions. So yes, to be God fearing and believe in something not logical is weak. Its shortsighted and your not allowing yourself to grow as a human. But if it makes you happy and your not hurting others, then have at it as far as im concerned.

 

[COVERIT!]

You're a good sport, then. And being a good sport is underrated. So props to you.

LOL, thanks. Look, I believe what I believe, and if I came across like I was slamming others who don't believe, my bad. If anything, I thought it was funny that people who believe in the big bang or similar theories can't comprehend why others might believe in Creation, that's all. I'm not a religious nut, nor an internet tough guy who's knows it all like most people on this board. (I've lurked for a few years, yet have less than 500 posts.) I spend most of my time trying to be a good man, father, and not lose too much gambling. (a sin in my book, but nevertheless, I do it.) The other time is spent defending the Pac 10 and cheering for my Trojans.
I come to this forum to read all the nut jobs that post about politcs on both ends, it's entertaining.

 

[Objection]

one of my favorite parts of the bible
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."

 

[ElTaino]

While we're on the subject of Biblical confusion, will someone please explain this to me:
"You may eat any animal that has a split hoof divided in two and that chews the cud. However, of those that chew the cud or that have a split hoof completely divided you may not eat the camel, the rabbit, or the coney." (Deuteronomy 14:6)

or this:

"All flying insects that walk on all fours are to be detestable to you. There are, however, some winged creatures that walk on all fours that you may eat: those that have jointed legs for hopping on the ground. Of these you may eat any kind of locust, katydid, cricket or grasshopper." Leviticus 11:20-22

this was before hot pockets. now you can heat up something that tastes like a grasshopper in your microwave

 

[COVERIT!]

The Big Bang and Evolution are provable. Your saying they are not?? hno: :missingte

Beliefs when it comes to religion, are not based in science. They are based on past experiences or traditions. So yes, to be God fearing and believe in something not logical is weak. Its shortsighted and your not allowing yourself to grow as a human. But if it makes you happy and your not hurting others, then have at it as far as im concerned.

:nohead:
Great, thanks. "Your" right.

 

[wolfie_cr]

I'm not a know it all.

weird, somehow I thought that you invalidated pretty much all modern science.....they can't prove anything and you 'are not gullible' , obviously that means that there are many 'fools' all over who are gullible and don't believe 'any of that bs'

like here

Originally Posted by COVER IT!
Millions and millions of years? Based on what.... carbon dating?
I may be gullible, but not THAT gullible

 

[Kiln]

this was before hot pockets. now you can heat up something that tastes like a grasshopper in your microwave

That was actually funny. Nice one.

My point, of course, is that rabbits don't chew cud and neither do they have cloven hoof. No insects--none of them--have 4 legs.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

:nohead:
Great, thanks. "Your" right.

Would you like possession? I figured i was doing you a favor of not doing so for believing otherwise?

:lolBIG:

 

[COVERIT!]

weird, somehow I thought that you invalidated pretty much all modern science.....they can't prove anything and you 'are not gullible' , obviously that means that there are many 'fools' all over who are gullible and don't believe 'any of that bs'

like here

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Yet, in one of your posts, you say carbon dating is only accurate up to 60k years, (which is debatable, feel free to research it) but, you pull a post where I comment about millions and millions of years.
Convenient.
You do know how many thousands make up a million, right?

 

[COVERIT!]

Would you like possession? I figured i was doing you a favor of not doing so for believing otherwise?

:lolBIG:

LOL, fletch, I enjoy reading your posts, I think you're an intelligent guy. It shocked me a little that you don't know the difference between you're and your, but it's cool. We don't share the same beliefs, no worries.

 

[Kiln]

Yet, in one of your posts, you say carbon dating is only accurate up to 60k years, (which is debatable, feel free to research it) but, you pull a post where I comment about millions and millions of years.
Convenient.
You do know how many thousands make up a million, right?

You do know that carbon dating plays no role in determining the age of the universe, yes? It relies, if I remember correctly, on the Hubble Constant.

 

[wolfie_cr]

Yet, in one of your posts, you say carbon dating is only accurate up to 60k years, (which is debatable, feel free to research it) but, you pull a post where I comment about millions and millions of years.
Convenient.
You do know how many thousands make up a million, right?

You are digging your own grave for showing that you know nothing about what you are trying to attack

First of all , there are other isotopes that are used for radiometric dating that allow to go back much further than 60k years

Second, methods used to estimate the age of the universe don't rely on radiometric dating


the best part is that you try to play sarcastic by saying "you do know how many thousands blabla" :lolBIG:

if you truly want to know about this and other 'crazy' ideas that according to you 'are all bs' you have no excuse.

you can read articles on how its done, you can go to any university that has a physics/astronomy department and ASK


boy I am glad you are not gullible

btw I am not playing the 'know it all' I am simply making a point on how all these threads have the 'this is BS' yet the person that claims that has made absolutely ZERO effort to research about what they are talking about NOR do they understand the elementary principles of what they are talking and believe they can use the 'its my faith' get out of jail card when it turns ugly

 

[COVERIT!]

You are digging your own grave for showing that you know nothing about what you are trying to attack

First of all , there are other isotopes that are used for radiometric dating that allow to go back much further than 60k years

Second, methods used to estimate the age of the universe don't rely on radiometric dating


the best part is that you try to play sarcastic by saying "you do know how many thousands blabla" :lolBIG:

if you truly want to know about this and other crazy ideas that according to you 'are all bs' you have no excuse.

you can read articles on how its done, you can go to any university that has a physics/astronomy department and ASK


boy I am glad you are not gullible

And none of these methods are infallible! Thanks, I'm a convert.

 

[barman]

There's no middle ground here. If you believe in God, Creation, and Jesus, you don't think the earth was formed by mistake.

I'm a struggling Christian, no more. However, yes, if what I believe is correct, then I'll be in heaven, and others who don't will suffer. If you believe what I do, there's no rosy ending for everyone, sorry.

As someone (me) who also believes in God, Creation (not the Genesis version, though) and Jesus, I invite you to consider the notion that all men are loved by God and all will be forgiven of any errors.

So regardless of how one perceives the creation of the universe, you're going to be okay in God's eyes. All errors (aka - sins) are forgiven.

 

[punter]

one of my favorite parts of the bible
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."

I sorta agree with this, it's abortion retroactive from lets say 18 years.

Sure would promote a more polite bunch of teenagers.

 

[wolfie_cr]

And none of these methods are infallible! Thanks, I'm a convert.

another pitiful 'get out of jail' card, nothing is 'infallible' therefore 'its all bs' and 'I am right'

:lolBIG: