That logic is also why I feel like an asshole for taking UNC. All I here is yea man UNC will definitley not start 0-2. I hate being on the square side.
You can't compare blowouts to non-blowouts, just not fair. All of UNC's games have been blowouts.
How about vs good teams???
vs. ND= 19 pts, 13 Reb, 28 Min
Mich St= 10 pts, 7 Reb, 26 Min
@ BC he had just 5pts on 6 shots. Hard to score when you only play 20 minutes that consist of the guards throwing up 3's to try to get back in it.
Also where does it say Ginyard is out?
So you think the new guys are going to come in and shutdown Hansborough?
So you think the new guys are going to come in and shutdown Hansborough?
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Ginyard is out and I will match Johnson, Aminu, and McFarland vs. Hansbrough, Thompson, and Davis.
Then your nuts.
There is a reason none of the NBA scouts are high on Hansborough. When he goes up against players he can't shoot over, and muscle up, like the ones he will see in the NBA daily, are the same type of athletes he will see tonight. I just don't see him out muscling Johnson, Aminu, and Chas like he does smaller opponents. Wake matches up better with him than anyone in the country. He isn't going to be throwing up shots and chasing down his rebound tonight.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Cover123
Ginyard is out and I will match Johnson, Aminu, and McFarland vs. Hansbrough, Thompson, and Davis.
Then your nuts.
There is a reason none of the NBA scouts are high on Hansborough. When he goes up against players he can't shoot over, and muscle up, like the ones he will see in the NBA daily, are the same type of athletes he will see tonight. I just don't see him out muscling Johnson, Aminu, and Chas like he does smaller opponents. Wake matches up better with him than anyone in the country. He isn't going to be throwing up shots and chasing down his rebound tonight.
http://www.collegeinjuryreport.com/basketball-injury-report.php?vw=N
Not expecting them to shut him down because nobody can, but not make it easy for him.
Not expecting them to shut him down because nobody can, but not make it easy for him.
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Updated Player Pos. Injury Status Update Rotowire Analysis
1/10/2009 2:19:25 PM Marcus Ginyard G Stress Fracture Doubtful missed last game, downgraded to doubtful Sunday (1/11) vs Wake Forest.
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also they won't shut Hansborough down , but I think he will have a much tougher time against a front line that matches up with him physically
Hansborough is definitley not an NBA caliber player. However, to say that he will not be able to get it done vs Johnson, Aminu, and Chas is not true.
I agree. I think he will go for his 15-9. But the extra attention Hansborough requires is going to make it tough for them to stop Thompson or whoever else is down low with him.
The thing with UNC is they have 4 reallly good players that would be the star on most other teams and if you double any of them the other one will kill you.
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Wake +5.5
Really don't see why this isn't a no brainer? Even before the season I picked Wake as my sleeper pick (got a nice future +4000 to win title on them), and had them as my top 5 most talented teams in the country. I had this game circled since schedules were released. Now I thought I would be getting 9 points or so, but I will still gladly take the 5.5. I didn't think they would be undefeated. I thought they would have slipped up at least once or twice, but this team is actually a little bit better than even I thought they were going to be. People are discrediting their win at BYU. That is a great win. Anytime you go somewhere and end a 53game home winning streak you did something special. 53 games is a shit load of games and speaks to the advantage this team has at home. it's not like they are slouches either. Wake easily could have looked past that game with their showdown with UNC on the horizon, but they showed me again that this team has a legit shot at winning it all. In that game they showed that they could step up defensively at the end of the game when needed most. I think they are thought of as a run and gun team, but their defensive statistics are some of the best in the country. They hold opponents to 36.4% from the floor, and more importantly 28% from the 3 point line. Those numbers are ridiculous and against good competition. UNC relies a lot on the 3 point shot, but Wake has quick guards that are able to get out and cover the line very easily. Those defensive numbers for guarding the 3 are no fluke. Their quickness and size make it difficult for teams to shoot over, or get off a easy shot. That's another thing about Wake. Most teams UNC just looks like they are on a different level from a physical standpoint. Not against Wake. The Deamon Decons have the size that is second to none. They look like an NBA team when they warm up. Just look at this roster; James Johnson 6'8 235, Al Farouq Aminu 6'8 205, Chas Macfarland 7'0 225, Tony Woods 6'10 235, David Weaver 6'10 240. and these aren't just big bodies they are elite athletes who can get up and down the floor. They have that NBA size that most scouts say will give Hansborough trouble. He isn't going to be able to muscle up shots, and hustle and physically get a rebound. Wake has the size that will give Hasborough trouble. That little push shot he shoots from his face will get it shot right back at him, and when he goes to muscle a rebound from Johnson he will bounce right off him. Ok, maybe a little bit of an exaggeration, but there is a reason NBA scouts say he will struggle in the NBA, and you will see why tonight. Now Wake just doesn't have big bodies they have some of the best guards in the country. Jeff Teague has elevated his game to all american status averaging 19.6ppg and running the team very nicely. He doesn't force shots, just takes what the defense gives him. He has the ability to take his man off the dribble, or pull a 3 pointer (51% from 3 on season), when Wake really needs a bucket. Along with Teague you have LD Williams. He is the defensive stopper on the team. You put him on the opposing teams leading scorer and he gives him fits all game long. Harvey Hale, and Ishmal Smith gives Wake even more depth at the guard position. Smith, who is probably the quickest guard in the ACC is having an off year. He suffered a sprained ankle earlier in the season and hasn't really been right since. He does seem to be getting healthy at the right time though. He recently had 11 and 9assists against ECU 2 games ago and had 6,3,3 against BYU last time out. His minutes have been increasing and seems to be ready just in time for tonight's game and ACC play. As deep as UNC is Wake is just as deep. The Tar Heels aren't going to wear down the Deamon Decs. The X factor in this game is Wake's home court advantage. For 2 teams that are so evenly matched I think home court may be the difference maker. Looking at stat sheets these teams do everything just about the same. From offensive fg % to ft %, to defensive stats these teams are very similar. You just can't discount the important of home court in big games such as these. Wake has the talent to compete and won't be intimidated by the Tar Heels. Wake Forest still has some doubters and they are going to use tonight's stage to let the nation know that they are a legit national title contender.
Will probably have a little on the ML as well
was kind of looking for something like this. at least this is my reasons for backing wake. win or lose i think this is logical
I'll give you a few reasons why Wake Wins...well these are my equivalent reasonings to the ones backing UNC
Wake has tall players
Wake has won many games
Tyler Hansboro is a geek
Roy Williams is old
Wake doesn't want to lose first game of season
The Demon Deacon is a cool logo on mid-court
Wake has tall players
Wake has won many games
Tyler Hansboro is a geek
Roy Williams is old
Wake doesn't want to lose first game of season
The Demon Deacon is a cool logo on mid-court
