Rap music is the single worst thing to happen to morality in the past 25 years

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zɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[myoo-zik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun <table class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">1.</td><td valign="top">an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. </td></tr></tbody></table> <table class="luna-Ent"><tbody><tr><td class="dn" valign="top">2.</td><td valign="top">the tones or sounds employed, occurring in single line (melody) or multiple lines (harmony), and sounded or to be sounded by one or more voices or instruments, or both. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Rap does not have melody or harmony.

Therefore, rap is not music.
 
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dont get me wrong, i dislike it, but i wouldnt go that far to call it garbage... im sure it requires some kind of skill.... BUT I FUCKIN HATE THE LYRICS.... FUCK PUFF DADDY AND HIS TRACKING OF LED ZEPP'S KASHMIR
 
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Its amazing... a doofus cant even explain what music is requires a dictionary to tell him the meaning of music. I bet those who sang songs and made music or dont even speak the english language have never made a song in the life.

Dude, get the hell out of here with your illiterate shallow explanations of what music is.

I have heard plenty of rap music and i have heard lots of melody and harmony in it. Try pulling up anything from Nappy roots or some of Andre 3000 music.

I hated this stupid topic from the get go because in my opinion on a foolish and dumb person (probably a failed parent as well) can stand up and blame any form of media for the ills of society..

Just a decade ago, people were blaming MTV, before that it was TV in general, and before that it was wave freakin radio and rockin roll. With the Elvis Presley being demonized and hailed as the anti christ because he turned many kids into sex crazed maniacs with the gyrations of his hips!


People, this topic is incredibly stupid. And ironic that its posted on a gambling forum. A meeting place for people involved in gambling. Yet some nut found the moral calling to post a thread blaming rap music because his local republican representative was caught giving free blow jobs in a public bathroom!!!

Classic ignorant straw-man and ad hominem response.

#1. Logical fallacy in argumentation number 1: Just because I provide
a dictionary definition in no way implies that I require a dictionary
to explain what music is.

#2. A dictionary definition of music is not illiterate or shallow, as a
matter of fact, by definition it is not illiterate.

#3. I am probably in the top 1% on this site as far as musical
ability and knowledge is concerned. My qualifications to make
that statement?

- I took 10 years of intensive classical piano lessons, my teacher:
(piano, harpsichord) made her solo debut with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra at the age of twelve, and subsequently performed with the Orchestra throughout eastern Canada. Mrs. xxx has appeared as piano and harpsichord soloist and as a chamber musician across the United States and Canada, in repertoire ranging from 17th-century harpsichord music to piano works by Bartok and Crumb. With the New York Chamber Soloists she has been a featured artist at the Mostly Mozart Festival, the Caramoor Festival and on tours of France, Spain and South America. A founding member of the Vermont Contemporary Music Ensemble, she also performs regularly with the Vermont Symphony Orchestra, frequently as piano or harpsichord soloist. She was educated in Canada at the University of Toronto and the Royal Conservatory of Music, and was on the music faculty of the University of Vermont from 1966 to 1999.

- I studied jazz piano composition and improvisation at the University
of Texas Graduate School of Music

- I have a minor in music from the University of Vermont

- I toured as the pianist/keyboardist for the Vermont Jazz Ensemble for three years.

- I have performed in bands over the last 20 years, and am currently in
a performing band. Instruments that I have played during performances:
acoustic & electric piano, acoustic & electric guitar, electric bass, clarinet, and drums.

- I have written over 100 songs, and have played on four released albums

- I was a National finalist in the National Piano Guild Classical Competition one year, and won state-wide awards three other years

Now, can you find a rap song with a melody with the millions of rap songs
out there? Probably. Do rap songs in general have a melody? No.

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply (sigh).

Oh yeah, who is the doofus?
 

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good ol fashioned rap music "dont quote me boy, i aint said sh*t"
 

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Classic ignorant straw-man and ad hominem response.

#1. Logical fallacy in argumentation number 1: Just because I provide
a dictionary definition in no way implies that I require a dictionary
to explain what music is.

#2. A dictionary definition of music is not illiterate or shallow, as a
matter of fact, by definition it is not illiterate.

#3. I am probably in the top 1% on this site as far as musical
ability and knowledge is concerned. My qualifications to make
that statement?

- I took 10 years of intensive classical piano lessons, my teacher:
(piano, harpsichord) made her solo debut with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra at the age of twelve, and subsequently performed with the Orchestra throughout eastern Canada. Mrs. xxx has appeared as piano and harpsichord soloist and as a chamber musician across the United States and Canada, in repertoire ranging from 17th-century harpsichord music to piano works by Bartok and Crumb. With the New York Chamber Soloists she has been a featured artist at the Mostly Mozart Festival, the Caramoor Festival and on tours of France, Spain and South America. A founding member of the Vermont Contemporary Music Ensemble, she also performs regularly with the Vermont Symphony Orchestra, frequently as piano or harpsichord soloist. She was educated in Canada at the University of Toronto and the Royal Conservatory of Music, and was on the music faculty of the University of Vermont from 1966 to 1999.

- I studied jazz piano composition and improvisation at the University
of Texas Graduate School of Music

- I have a minor in music from the University of Vermont

- I toured as the pianist/keyboardist for the Vermont Jazz Ensemble for three years.

- I have performed in bands over the last 20 years, and am currently in
a performing band. Instruments that I have played during performances:
acoustic & electric piano, acoustic & electric guitar, electric bass, clarinet, and drums.

- I have written over 100 songs, and have played on four released albums

- I was a National finalist in the National Piano Guild Classical Competition one year, and won state-wide awards three other years

Now, can you find a rap song with a melody with the millions of rap songs
out there? Probably. Do rap songs in general have a melody? No.

I'm anxiously awaiting your reply (sigh).

Oh yeah, who is the doofus?

Impressive resume if you was arguing piano's. This does not make you an expert in rap or rap music. And personally rap is not music. Hip hop is music and yes 85% of the hiphop songs ive heard do have some sort of a melody. I hate the fact that you guys dont buy the cds, dont listen to the stations but then want to be experts on hip hop music. MTV is not real hip hop music. And for whoever said you cant compare rap to r and r is retarded. That is the perfect comparison. Those boys in Colorodo didnt listen to rap music and before you say how you know this. When that stuff went down my brothers pysc teacher made them do profiles on them. Also R and R has not said or done anything worst or better than what hip-hop has done. Yall are haters and full of crap.

It takes no talent to rap. Then you go get the easy money the douche bag. If its that damn simple.
 

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lol people get all worked over musical taste

most rap is crap, but some is actually great, mostly independent label non corporate rap

JMO :D
 

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Rap music -------- it's a personal choice. if you like guys who wear their pants down around their knees........most of them are homo.....but this music is mostly a cultural thing..

Basically it sucks !

It's basically for the braindead.


:cripwalk::smoking::ohno::nohead:
 

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would this be considered rap music?

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now enjoy, and stop bitching about MUSIC!! its only music...
 

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would this be considered rap music?

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Yes it would. I love all these youtube posts. So lets go find the most dumb and ridiculous version of rap or hip-hop to make our point. That was garbage. I can find garbage in anything R and R, alternative, country, jazz, anything.
 

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Rap music -------- it's a personal choice. if you like guys who wear their pants down around their knees........most of them are homo.....but this music is mostly a cultural thing..

Basically it sucks !

It's basically for the braindead.


:cripwalk::smoking::ohno::nohead:


Stupid comment by a stupid person. I hate the fact that people associate dress trends with all hip-hop and rap. Where does this come from. Most respectable rap and hip-hop artist dont dress like that. Also remember the pants thing isnt a culture thing its an age thing.
 
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get it right...rap music hasnt been the worst thing for "morality" over the past 25 years...it has been (and will continue to be so long as it is popular) the single biggest obstacle to black people closing the achievment gap between them and whites...at some point maybe they will realize that....black kids grow up thinking its cool to be a thug or criminal....the reason for this is because they are taught that by rap music
 

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Somehow I don't see the oldies stations playing classic rap songs 30 years from now. Personally I don't hear anything in today's rap or fabricated computerized drum machine driven hip hop music that has any words, beat or melody that I'm going to remember a year from now, much less 30 years from now. Good music always stands the test of time, whether it be pop, rock, jazz or blues.....I'm betting that neither of these two genres are going to pass that test. Today's music is readymade for the short attention span of Generation X. That's probably why the average person from this age group has a couple thousand songs in their ipod. No songs in it warrants repeating. Just give'em a beat to work out to. No repeat button necessary.
 

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this thread is full of racists close minded old people. you guys won't stand the test of time. you'll be dead and the generation that enjoy confident fast hip hop.
 

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no melody? test of time? 20 years and going fags. u r just scared of black people.
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50 cent is pretty wack.
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random, the demographic of this forum is 35-40 year old white males. a majority in that demo don't like rap music, so what do you expect when they say they dont like it.

its a personal opinion thats all. anybody who thinks the music genre has to do with the decay of society is just silly.
 

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i agree with them to a point. soulja boy lil wayne and 50 cent do contribute to dumbing down the youth. but to pigeon hole all of rap music in that statement is just racism leaking out of their mouths.
 

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