Question to ALL from BHB.................

[bhbookie]

but if we give a bonus based on the "action" then we are giving bonuses on both wins and losses.

this this way we only pay on the net, whether it be wins (2%) or losses (5%)

lets say the player has 50k in winnings and 100k in losses, then he would get 2500 back (50k net losses) or vice versa - he would get 1000 based on 2% of his 50k net wins.

the other way i would have to pay him 1500 based on 150k in action win or lose.

which do you think is better for the book? TO be honest I really dont know. what is the guy had 200k in wins ans 200k in losses. then i would have to pay him 4k, and BHB hasnt made anything on him.

 

[bucsfan67]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BIGTEX:
Bucsfan, someone will have to reup to find out about those plays, and to test the lockout. any volunteers?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


lol.....

well it is the third time it has happened that i can remember...first time i parlayed 2 tennis plays, didnt realize you werent suppose to, but it let you.....i was locked out...

then a few weeks later, i parlayed a baseball moneyline with a basketball game (side)......

this time, i parlayed a first half of one football game, with the second half of "a different" football game....i didnt realize this wouldnt be allowed, it is at most of my other outs, as long as its half play, with half play...not a half, with a full game....but its always a couple days later when u go to login that u are locked out without knowing why, or any warning....

 

[bhbookie]

Big Tex - why are ou so against BHB. You act like we stole from you. Last I checked we are still doing the Football contest. Where have you been.

 

[bucsfan67]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GotBookie.com:
Big Tex - why are ou so against BHB. You act like we stole from you. Last I checked we are still doing the Football contest. Where have you been.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


yes, bhb is running a great football contest, with lots of prizes....
i won the first week, and had NO TROUBLE getting my account credited, and it was quick to boot....Of course i had bad luck with it, but was still able to withdraw a little of it, not near what i have lost there, but anyway, had no trouble collecting, was very quick and efficient as usual, and no questions asked....

so i have to say that isnt a very valid reason to not play there....

 

[neilm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GotBookie.com:
please give me a rundown of how pinnicle works, everyone seems to love them<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

10% signup bonus....no re-up bonus

8 cent baseball
10 cent baseball totals and runlines (eg. 8 ov -105 un -105)

-105 NFL sides, totals and moneylines

-105 NBA sides, NCAA football sides

10 cent hockey (eg. ML -150/+140, -.5 +120 +.5 -130 5 over -122 under +112)

-105 CFL lines (sides and totals)

10 cent golf lines

8 or 9 cent soccer lines

One free Neteller withdrawl each month up to $8,000...all Neteller withdrawls processed in less than ten minutes

See why they are the nuts now?

 

[bhbookie]

what about nba totals, and how can they have -05 on a football moneyline. what if the team is favored by 14 pts?

 

[D2bets]

OK, here's a model:

*10% signup, 5% reload, 3Xroll for both
*-107 sides and totals, including halfs and quarters
*1% monthly cashback on all action for those with, say $5K+ action
*True baseball dimeline and 14 cent totals
*One free Neteller withdraw per month up to 8K, $15 each thereafter up to 2.5K.
*Extensive list of props
*Overnight odds and early posting of odds
*No website timeouts
*45 second lock confirm screen

 

[VG789]

D2bets did a good job,I agree.

Personally,I would say that soccer 9 cent lines,handicap and u/o lines is the way to grab me.

 

[fathead]

Track odds on horses (WPS) combined with a 3% rebate (daily or weekly) on total horse action would get my attention!

 

[neilm]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GotBookie.com:
what about nba totals, and how can they have -05 on a football moneyline. what if the team is favored by 14 pts?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NBA totals were -108 last year. Based on recent trends, I'd guess they'll offer -105 this year (NFL totals were -108 last year...-105 this year...just a guess though).

The ML spread increases as the spread increases, however using the OAK/CHI game as an example....-210/+175 at other books -198/+178 at Pinnacle (better line on both sides.

One thing I forgot to mention earlier are the online limits....

Game Run Line Money Line Total Runs
Maximum Wager: 10000.00 USD 10000.00 USD 5000.00 USD
Thu 10/2 903 Minnesota Twins
B. Radke +1.5 +100 +198 B. Radke must start OVER 8.5 -105
05:05 PM 904 New York Yankees
A. Pettitte -1.5 -110 -216 A. Pettitte must start UNDER 8.5 -105

Those are ten and five dime online limits at Pinnacle and if you put ten dimes on teh run line and they move the line, even one cent, you're free to pop them again for another ten.

 

[bhbookie]

WOW! those guys have balls. I will check into some new stuff for BHB. Maybe less sign up bonuses, and small kick backs on the wins, with bigger kickbacks on the losses.

thx
-scott

 

[bullsye]

BHB, would like to see smaller bonuses, no referal bonuses, lower juice, lines up earlier, and opinionated lines.

 

[bhbookie]

bullsye, im on it.

-scott

 

[bullsye]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GotBookie.com:
bullsye, im on it.

-scott<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Scott.

I can understand why many books offer the large signup and referral bonuses.....to get players in the door. But by doing this I think we have seen it attracts the wrong element such as the bonus whores, bonus syndicates, and the 5 and out types. By offering something of value to the longterm player such as reduced juice, fast payouts, having neteller funded, diff lines, good software, etc, it gives the player reason to play there all the time.

Pinnacle and Canbet are two of my favorite outs for this reason. They offer little or no bonuses but I reload time and again because of the value they offer to me the better. Also dispite their limited phone presence, their customer service is very good. Deposits and payouts are done very quickly. I think we can see this is the wave of the future. PanAm and Hollywood are my next books to signup with because they are offering much of what I stated above.

 

[Tekari]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Do you think it would be better if they were more like -

15% signup, 15% reloads, -07 or 3 cents in your favor on all games (online only) same rules regarding rollovers etc.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree this would be an excellent start.


I say get rid of referral bonuses like pinnacle does cause if you offer reduced juice and all these other things tons of people will play there anyways. When I emailed pinnacle to ask if they have referral bonuses they basically said we are such a good deal we dont have to give away referral bonuses

I think 10% bonus and reduced vig -107 would be a great start.. even with no percentage giveback on wins or losses... I dont think that is really appealing to alot of people.. especially since everyone thinks they will win they figure "oh a small percentage on my loss is no big deal" they think they will be ahead anyways. Put the money into lower vig and forget the referal and percentage back IMO.

 

[BeverlyHillsBookie.com]

Thanks for the feed back

Pete
BHB

 

[bhbookie]

Any more suggestions guys?