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Illini, from the way you are talking it does not seem like you're making the most out of life - just going through the motions and waiting for a better after life
 

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If you think about it, you probably go into a different world once you die.

When you're born, don't you leave a different world and "die", and enter this world? You were breathing fluids in your mothers stomach only to start breathing air when you leave the womb.
 

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Illini, from the way you are talking it does not seem like you're making the most out of life - just going through the motions and waiting for a better after life
I'm doing anything but going through the motions. I'm bothered, because my heart aches with compassion for all the people suffering in this world. I cannot just "don't worry, be happy" and "live life to the fullest." What does that mean, anyway?

I have goals and things I want to achieve. I have plans to take trips, to do the fun things in life, to enjoy this life while I'm alive. But I know already that the more success you have in life, the less of a return you get from that success.

So yeah, I'll say it. This world is a shithole. No matter what, there are still way to many problems. Big problems. It's always going to be a troublesome place. I'll bleed, sweat, work, laugh, cry, and burn with compassion for others while I'm here. And I will seek the Lord the entire way. And in the end, it will be a life spent on the things that matter.

PO69 is still a major leauge douche, but I'll even try to have compassion on that idiot. Peace.
 

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I'm doing anything but going through the motions. I'm bothered, because my heart aches with compassion for all the people suffering in this world. I cannot just "don't worry, be happy" and "live life to the fullest." What does that mean, anyway?

I have goals and things I want to achieve. I have plans to take trips, to do the fun things in life, to enjoy this life while I'm alive. But I know already that the more success you have in life, the less of a return you get from that success.

So yeah, I'll say it. This world is a shithole. No matter what, there are still way to many problems. Big problems. It's always going to be a troublesome place. I'll bleed, sweat, work, laugh, cry, and burn with compassion for others while I'm here. And I will seek the Lord the entire way. And in the end, it will be a life spent on the things that matter.

PO69 is still a major leauge douche, but I'll even try to have compassion on that idiot. Peace.

Religion isnt a requirement to show compassion, personally I consider myself a real sympathetic motherfucker, it might not show in my post but it is reflected in the way I live my life. Im not a total atheist but my dad is and he is one of the most genuine good samaritans I have ever met in my life without the help of fear tactics. Personally I hope that if there is a God we will be judged on our deeds and not our faith because I have trouble believeing in a vengeful god that will let babies burn to death meanwhile child molesters are sipping coronas in the sand.
 

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Religion isnt a requirement to show compassion, personally I consider myself a real sympathetic motherfucker, it might not show in my post but it is reflected in the way I live my life. Im not a total atheist but my dad is and he is one of the most genuine good samaritans I have ever met in my life without the help of fear tactics. Personally I hope that if there is a God we will be judged on our deeds and not our faith because I have trouble believeing in a vengeful god that will let babies burn to death meanwhile child molesters are sipping coronas in the sand.

where does this compassion come from, did it evolve from nothing?

a lot of people argue that this "moral code" that is written on all mens hearts is proof that there is a creator that cares about us. i tend to agree.
 

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The afterlife, life after death or life in the hereafter is the proposed continued existence of the soul, spirit or mind of a being after physical death.

The major views on the afterlife derive from religion. In many popular views, this continued existence often takes place in a spiritual or immaterial realm.

Deceased persons are usually believed to go to a specific realm or plane of existence after death, usually determined by their actions during life.

Believe what you want or what your thought process brings you to. Trying to convince someone who believes in the afterlife, that dead is dead or vice versa and that is all there is can be a huge a waste of time and IMO not worth the effort.

I hold no grudges toward people for what they believe one way or another regarding this topic and rarely discuss my own thoughts on the matter.


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There is something called the great commission. My pastor says the best witness is nothing you can say but the way you live your life.

Jesus was pretty radical, He said I AM the way the truth and the life and I am the only way to heaven. To have seen Me is to have seen the Father.

That doesnt sit well with lots of folks.
 

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The people who chose to believe they just rot in the ground after you die or just being realistic. Seriously ever have a pet die and bury it, if you have any doubts what happened to him go dig him up and look. I'd bet you he is still there rotting and decaying.

It's fine for people to believe in heaven, it gives them hope and helps to relieve the fear of death. But just cause you can't prove it doesn't exist doesn't mean shit. Heck, I'm a pretty horny guy, maybe I want to believe that all men are reincarnated into a hot chicks bicycling seat. Try to prove that doesn't really happen. Same issue as disproving heaven.

There is no way to prove what happens either way. Just have to go by common sense and what seems most likely. Of course the strong religous persons would never change their views even if science could prove it.
 

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Might as well just smoke dmt or salvia and get over the question already :nohead::party:
 
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I'm doing anything but going through the motions. I'm bothered, because my heart aches with compassion for all the people suffering in this world. I cannot just "don't worry, be happy" and "live life to the fullest." What does that mean, anyway?

I have goals and things I want to achieve. I have plans to take trips, to do the fun things in life, to enjoy this life while I'm alive. But I know already that the more success you have in life, the less of a return you get from that success.

So yeah, I'll say it. This world is a shithole. No matter what, there are still way to many problems. Big problems. It's always going to be a troublesome place. I'll bleed, sweat, work, laugh, cry, and burn with compassion for others while I'm here. And I will seek the Lord the entire way. And in the end, it will be a life spent on the things that matter.

PO69 is still a major leauge douche, but I'll even try to have compassion on that idiot. Peace.

Sounds like you have given up...but since I have met you in person, I know that you are just going through a stage in your life, where you could use a little guidance...lean on your friends and family a little more....and believe in yourself, you have that potential to succeed...try reading the book "Don't Sweat The Small Stuff, Cause Its All Small Stuff." We all go thru some bad times and get over it...You will to!
 

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Sounds like you have given up...but since I have met you in person, I know that you are just going through a stage in your life, where you could use a little guidance...lean on your friends and family a little more....and believe in yourself, you have that potential to succeed...try reading the book "Don't Sweat The Small Stuff, Cause Its All Small Stuff." We all go thru some bad times and get over it...You will to!

Sounds to me like he needs a few more trips to Cheetahs to let him know the world isn't such a bad place.

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Another question about death and afterwards.....

religous thoughts okay here.....

this question goes out to anyone who believes in an afterlife....(the "dead is dead" crowd, I already know your answer)


If there is a "paradise" or whatever.....do animals make it? can you communicate with your dog that died years back? what about savage animals? Or small insects like an ant? are we sending every ant we kill into an afterlife? is that good or bad?

what about a tree? These guys live for hundreds of years and just sit still....i know they do not have a consciousness but that must be boring as hell....do they become communicable beings in the afterlife? Same question for molecules of bacteria or other microscopic organisms.

Or does this afterlife only apply to us humans.



I've had a fear of death for a few years now and I think even though I'm fooling myself....I should find a religion that suits my afterlife needs and stick with it to help me carry on in life.
 

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Yes, there is. There is harps in heaven, where does the string come from? catguts.
 

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Well, this topic is a question that many have, funny thing is some people are too scared to think or ask them, right?

Now, what "keeps" us sane and going every day is the "Faith" and the belief that there is a afterlife, if there was no Faith and religion, we will be more nuts than ever. People would probably run naked in the streets all day.

Life is designed to keep us thinking and doing things that will "keep us intact"
I have had thoughts about a few things, and sometiimes afraid to even question or think it. as i got older some things did'nt "add up" but I put them in the back burner.

Regarding Life, I have had a huge awakening, My father died and that changed things. Even though my aunt and mom died before, I think the fact that i had him alive somehow he was keeping me going,

after seeing him go, nothing more seemed important, because I saw him work hard all his life, rarely a break, and was such an inspiration, through the good times and bad, he was Dad, but As I sit and think he's not here any moe, i can NEVER, EVER talk to him again, hear him sing or see him smile, its some scary shit, he left all these land property etc, and Im thinking, what good is this shiit, what the hell are we workking our asses off every day for, just to later become a child again, piss and shit on yourself, and in your mind, see yourself, go down everyday,

I know he was somehow scared, becasue his body was failing, and he could not fight, it was nature, and im thinking geez in a short time i too will be like that, in and out the hospital and pissing on myself, damn.

Is there an after life? are there gonna be animals and trees?
I dont think trees, but here goes.



I think there is something HUGE, but we have not tapped into it yet, we just have not reached that level, I may souund crazy but listen to this one,

I believe we as we are this very moment, have ALREADY, lived, yep,
but we are in some type of DREAM, our lives have already passed, even to death, which also give credit to de ja vu, we are not seeing the future, but reliving or remembering the PAST.

Think about it, but not too much, lol
 

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Now, what "keeps" us sane and going every day is the "Faith" and the belief that there is a afterlife, if there was no Faith and religion, we will be more nuts than ever. People would probably run naked in the streets all day.

Life is designed to keep us thinking and doing things that will "keep us intact"
I have had thoughts about a few things, and sometiimes afraid to even question or think it. as i got older some things did'nt "add up" but I put them in the back burner.

Regarding Life, I have had a huge awakening, My father died and that changed things. Even though my aunt and mom died before, I think the fact that i had him alive somehow he was keeping me going,

after seeing him go, nothing more seemed important, because I saw him work hard all his life, rarely a break, and was such an inspiration, through the good times and bad, he was Dad, but As I sit and think he's not here any moe, i can NEVER, EVER talk to him again, hear him sing or see him smile, its some scary shit, he left all these land property etc, and Im thinking, what good is this shiit, what the hell are we workking our asses off every day for, just to later become a child again, piss and shit on yourself, and in your mind, see yourself, go down everyday,

I know he was somehow scared, becasue his body was failing, and he could not fight, it was nature, and im thinking geez in a short time i too will be like that, in and out the hospital and pissing on myself, damn.

Is there an after life? are there gonna be animals and trees?
I dont think trees, but here goes.



I think there is something HUGE, but we have not tapped into it yet, we just have not reached that level, I may souund crazy but listen to this one,

I believe we as we are this very moment, have ALREADY, lived, yep,
but we are in some type of DREAM, our lives have already passed, even to death, which also give credit to de ja vu, we are not seeing the future, but reliving or remembering the PAST.

Think about it, but not too much, lol
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The energy in our bodies needs to be displaced somewhere according to the law of physics. Now whether or not that "energy" is our soul/spirit is open for argument.

The way I have resolved being consumed by these kind of questions is by realizing that many smarter people throughout history have tried to determine whether or not there is an afterlife, a God, etc., and they never proved anything, so why should I waste my time thinking about it. I, instead, can waste my time posting in the Rx.
 

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