Question about death and afterwards...

[tld1962]

Please keep most religious talk out of this.

Why would someone want to believe that after death you end up a bag a bones and not floating around in the blue sky and still with ya.

I guess what im asking on something that cant be proved why believe the negative or depressing side?:think2:

I wouldn’t know how to “choose” to believe something.
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If, by hypothesis, we’re talking about some matter about which I can’t “prove” it either way, and I’m aware I can’t, then that means I don’t have a belief about it. It makes no sense to then say, “OK in that case I’ll believe such-and-such” because by hypothesis I have no grounds for any such belief.
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(I wouldn’t use the word “prove” by the way, since beliefs can be justified with grounds that fall well short of some sort of full proof, but I don’t want to get too bogged down in the semantics.)

 

[Illini]

If that's true then once you are redeemable why not just end your life and move on to the next, better level? Why do people try so hard to stay alive? And what's with all the sanctity of life stuff, if this is a shithole and the next stop is better? Doesn't seem to add up. :think2:

It's not really my right to decide when my life ends.

Life has meaning, but ultimately, fulfillment is not going to be found while on earth.

 

[D2bets]

It's not really my right to decide when my life ends.

Life has meaning, but ultimately, fulfillment is not going to be found while on earth.

But everybody effects the timing of when your life ends.....whether you go to the doctor, whether you eat healthy or not, taking medicines, etc etc. And why bother going to the doctor or having surgeries and things like that? Things that a person does directly impacts when the person dies, one way or another. By your theory, people should not put effort into trying to prolong their lives?

 

[Bobbflo]

what about the poor sucker who leads a very sanctified life and gets hit by the bus? no drinkee, nol smokee, no hoochie coochie for 50 years ...then one day- steps off he curb and boom....guess he would be a square?:think2:

 

[Illini]

But everybody effects the timing of when your life ends.....whether you go to the doctor, whether you eat healthy or not, taking medicines, etc etc. And why bother going to the doctor or having surgeries and things like that? Things that a person does directly impacts when the person dies, one way or another. By your theory, people should not put effort into trying to prolong their lives?

I didn't say that.

What I said is that even though there are some enjoyable and fun things in this life, it is a corrupt and ugly place full of sin, sickness, suffering, and hard times.

Plenty of things to stay alive for, like family and friends. But ultimately, at the end of life laying in a hospital bed waiting to die, if you don't believe in heaven, will you say that life was beautiful? I wouldn't.

 

[celticGreen+]

How does this problem get solved? Lets say your father dies and your mother marrys again. Now her second husband dies, when she gets to were ever we go, who does she hook up with? Her first husband or her second one?

Your moms gettin DP'd

 

[Seymour]

Will my dad's hand be waiting for him in heaven Seymour?

I don't see why not - but you need to have faith - stay focused

 

[Seymour]

How does this problem get solved? Lets say your father dies and your mother marrys again. Now her second husband dies, when she gets to were ever we go, who does she hook up with? Her first husband or her second one?

Threesum

 

[bigbet1234]

There's something, but what I do know, we all find out some day. Some, sooner than others

Please keep most religious talk out of this.

Why would someone want to believe that after death you end up a bag a bones and not floating around in the blue sky and still with ya.

I guess what im asking on something that cant be proved why believe the negative or depressing side?:think2:

 

[bigbet1234]

Jman on your list?

I think you've got to be nuts not to believe in an after life - I'm planning to see alot of people there.

 

[bigbet1234]

It's what you make of it

We were intended to. And then we sinned and lost it all and and were sentenced live on this shithole earth until we get redeemed.

 

[bigbet1234]

:think2:

It's not really my right to decide when my life ends.

Life has meaning, but ultimately, fulfillment is not going to be found while on earth.

 

[Illini]

It's what you make of it

Yeah, but this world is always going to be an ugly place. If you forget your wallet at the bar, it will get stolen 9 times out of 10. You are always going to have to worry about your kids getting kidnapped, should you let them out of your site. Without cops, there would be looting and rioting everywhere.

You can find contentment, but there will always be a longing for more. Most people long for success and wealth and fame and never get it. The ones that get success, fame, and wealth long for more of it. Winners of Superbowls and World Series enjoy the victory for about 10 minutes, and then it's "Can you win it again next year?"

It's my firm belief that this world cannot satisfy. Tiger Woods and Tom Brady are longing for more and unsatisfied. I've heard Brady say exactly that. Because I believe this world is not the end all. In fact, it's rather obvious to me.

 

[NES]

Religion is a good excuse to not do shit with the short life you are given.

 

[Illini]

Religion is a good excuse to not do shit with the short life you are given.

Like what? What are you doing with your life that is most excellent, your highness?

 

[NES]

Like what? What are you doing with your life that is most excellent, your highness?

Probably not as much as I should, but what I do I do for today and not for a fear of God or where I will end up in the after-life. Not everyone is in it for the wrong reasons, just 99% IMO.

 

[Illini]

Probably not as much as I should, but what I do I do for today and not for a fear of God or where I will end up in the after-life. Not everyone is in it for the wrong reasons, just 99% IMO.

Living for today means getting drunk and instant gratification for 99% of people that say that.

I like to think that depth is what I'm striving for. To me, that's a big deal and doesn't mean I'm not doing shit with my life.

To each his own.

 

[NES]

I wasnt calling out you directly my man, but I dont think my claim is that far off.

 

[NES]

I think its that whole "fear of God" BS and blatant hypocrisy that runs rampant in the religious community that has turned me away, I went to church on my own for half my life, I think there is more to life then listening to some clowns take on God's will and waiting around for paradise to kick in.

 

[Illini]

I think its that whole "fear of God" BS and blatant hypocrisy that runs rampant in the religious community that has turned me away, I went to church on my own for half my life, I think there is more to life then listening to some clowns take on God's will and waiting around for paradise to kick in.

Agree. I am a Christian, but I don't go to church. Probably never will again. Can't stand the bs that goes on in church. "I'm great, the kids are great, God is good, life is good. Go Jesus!" That bullshit.

There is much more to life and Christianity than that. It's the ultimate journey.