Patriots finished tied in 31st in fumbles this season!

[Willie99]

so many statisticians and scientists have debunked this poppycock, it's impossible to post them all, and nobody wants to see all the sources either

I know I didn't and can't change the minds of haters, they'll continue to cite their simpleton sources

I made my case and I'm moving on

 

[PatsFanatic]

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[phdinsports]

so many statisticians and scientists have debunked this poppycock, it's impossible to post them all, and nobody wants to see all the sources either

I know I didn't and can't change the minds of haters, they'll continue to cite their simpleton sources

I made my case and I'm moving on

LMAO! What case? Posting biased opinions from the Northeast! The numbers are there for all to see, high fumble rates from 2001 to 2006, a large sample, implausible low fumble rates from 2007-2014 for an outdoor cold weather team, and now the fumbles are creeping up again! None of the biased crap you posted addressed the high fumble rate from 2001 to 2006 ("better" teams too, thanks to spying) and the astonishing low fumble rates from 2007-2014.

 

[phdinsports]

Winners do things that win, any questions?

They pass better, they catch better, they tackle better, they fumble less, they game plan better, they shoot better, they rebound better, they hit better, they pitch better, and they defend the goal better

You're acting like you don't know anything about sports and being better. Do you think MJ cheated? how about the C's under Auerbach? Obviously the Cubs must have cheated this year, and the Yankees cheated for generations. Everyone in the Hall of Fame must have cheated too, because the NUMBERS prove they did things better so they obviously cheated. Your argument is not one of brilliance like you think, it's more about being blinded by hate and silly.

Incorrect, you my friend are blinded by your team allegiance and loyalty, and this argument is beyond silly!

 

[phdinsports]

By Michael Lopez
Assistant professor of statistics at Skidmore College
@StatsbyLopez
Last winter, much was made about the extremely low fumble rates of the Patriots, leading many to speculate or conclude that their potentially deflated footballs were responsible. See FiveThirtyEight for a general summary of the arguments.
In any case, the 2015 season makes for an excellent out-of-sample test with respect to New England's fumble tendencies. Although the Patriots have been accused of going crazy lengths to gain a winning edge, it seems safe to assume that any suspect ball routine could not have been a part of the game-day preparation process this season. (The NFL implemented new procedures for inspecting game balls.) As a result, if one initially made the link between the Patriots low fumble rates and deflated footballs, the natural follow-up would be to assume that New England's fumble rates would revert toward the league average in 2015.
So what happened in 2015?
• The Patriots had the fewest fumbles of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had the best fumble rate of any NFL offense.
• The Patriots had one of their best fumble rates of the past decade.
Here's a barplot of each offense's 2015 fumble rate. To match a previous author's chart, I'll use plays per fumble, which means that teams fumbling less often will have higher numbers. (Using the NFL's website, I grabbed the relevant offensive team information—fumbles and number of plays—and subtracted non-offensive team fumbles to ensure that fumbles using the ‘K’ balls weren't counted.)


That's the Patriots on the far right, leading the league while fumbling only once every 105 plays.
There are several explanations for their continued success of hanging on to the ball, none of which have to do with deflated footballs. As explained here, the Patriots have consistently led the league in plays that are associated with low fumble rates, including kneel downs, plays in opponent territory, and plays when holding a lead. Related, the Patriots, Broncos, and Panthers—three teams that went a combined 39-9 in 2015—finished first, fourth and fifth, respectively, in plays per fumble.
A link between low football PSI's and high fumble rates was never established by anyone, so a check of the 2015 data shouldn’t mean much as far as the likelihood of the Patriots cheating. But the information provides a nice confirmation to what Gregory Matthews and I wrote back in January: Statistics is hard, and this can lead to deception, either willful or otherwise.
The idea that the Patriots were a 1 in 16,000 type-of-outlier made for a nice story, and it was quite easy to use aggregated statistics that implicated New England. As often happens, however, there's more to data than meets the eye. In the case of fumble rates, New England has routinely led the league. It's a result that seems more likely to be accounted for by differences in points on the scoreboard, and not by differences in the pressure levels of footballs.

Only a biased idiotic fool would make this his conclusion, when the facts clearly show the Patriots had a horrible fumble rate when stealing 3 out of their 4 Super Bowls between 2001-2006!

 

[doubledeuce22]

according to the wells report, the colts balls lost air pressure as well. so either cold weather causes balls to lose a little bit of air pressure (common sense, ideal gas law, middle school science), or the colts played with magic footballs, or the colts ran some sort of cheating scheme.

 

[phdinsports]

according to the wells report, the colts balls lost air pressure as well. so either cold weather causes balls to lose a little bit of air pressure (common sense, ideal gas law, middle school science), or the colts played with magic footballs, or the colts ran some sort of cheating scheme.

Or the immutable laws of physics were on strike during the 2001-2006 seasons!