Palin hopes God will 'show her the door' to the White House

[piccolo]

and who really cares what the fuck lying enabling weasels think anyways? Isn't the media one of the least respected professions?

I laugh at the media before I listen to them.

Yes you are right.. Beneath all that bleached bimbo bonehead stupidity that she has show cased to the whole world is a hidden genius you alone are aware of!!!

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[BASEHEAD]

My quote was "I don't think the Founders as a whole were under the impression that god was directing their actions."

It's a fact that Franklin lived his life and died as a Deist as did Paine, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Ethan Allen and others. And as you know Deist believes that their god has a plan for the universe but doesn't intervene. It could be a gray area though, trying to parse the difference between having a plan and governing "the affairs of men".

Franklin fought tooth and nail and failed to have a passage from the Pennsylvania State Constitution removed that said something about the document being divinely inspired.

If you could provide more quotes where the Founders felt that god was intervening on their behalf I would be interested in reading them. I've looked but can't find any.

I know what you said-I disagreed remember?

The issue seems to be subtly morphing from one thing to another.

The issue is folks praying for Gods benevolence/favor,prosperity, opportunity (based on Palins quote and subsequent criticism),etc. in the belief their faith will rewarded....otherwise why pray at all? As well as their prayers of gratitude to the Almighty One in regards to benevolence already afforded to them,which is evidence of their beliefs that God 'micromanages' mans existence and allow things to pass or fail.

Its clear this was an important part of the ideology among the founding fathers,regardless of their actual religious creeds.It doesnt need to be specific-the issue is prayer.

Washington?

"Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me "to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness."

 

[BASEHEAD]

Surely youve heard 'give me liberty or give me death' but have you heard the whole thing?

Paine:

"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

 

[cussin'it]

I love the woman.

That's just your johnson doin the talkin'

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[punter]

Surely youve heard 'give me liberty or give me death' but have you heard the whole thing?

Paine:

"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not to the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Uh Basey not to try and fuck up a good story here but that quote was from Patrick Henry. Delivered to the 1776 Congress.

Tomas Paine's famous quote was "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country".

 

[punter]

You can almost hear Dick Cheney saying that cantcha.

 

[BASEHEAD]

Uh Basey not to try and fuck up a good story here but that quote was from Patrick Henry. Delivered to the 1776 Congress.

Tomas Paine's famous quote was "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country".

Right,my bad. I did mean to put Henry up there.

All these crazy, religious, zealotlike founding fathers are hard to keep track of.

Thanks,Im glad you caught it.

 

[DeathEatsaCracker]

Uh Basey not to try and fuck up a good story here but that quote was from Patrick Henry. Delivered to the 1776 Congress.

Tomas Paine's famous quote was "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country".

I think you have them backwards.

 

[barman]

Uh Basey not to try and fuck up a good story here but that quote was from Patrick Henry. Delivered to the 1776 Congress.

Tomas Paine's famous quote was "I regret that I have but one life to give for my country".

heh.....Try Nathan Hale

Paine provides us with the philosophy of Common Sense

 

[punter]

I think you have them backwards.

No Pat Henry is right. Barman is correct on Nathan Hale.

 

[BASEHEAD]

No Pat Henry is right. Barman is correct on Nathan Hale.

I didnt realize the Skipper from Gilligans Island was so patriotic.

 

[Willie99]

Base, can we get an enhanced look at your avatar?

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[punter]

Looks like one of those painted on jobs.

 

[barman]

i didnt realize the skipper from gilligans island was so patriotic.

 

[BASEHEAD]

Dont say I never gave you anything.

Base, can we get an enhanced look at your avatar?

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