Obama's justice department was highly political, for the entire 8 years
Did anyone watch Holder in action? seriously? and then Lynch?
These people were not independent about anything ever. They acted as if they were Obama's Chief of Staff, everything they did was political
from attempting to give Gitmo detainees a civil trial, the fucking idiots did that once and then quickly pulled back after losing something like 74 out of 75 counts, almost freeing a mass murderer
then giving arms to the Mexican cartel, and lying about it
then deciding what federal laws to not enforce
then deciding to go after state's that tried to enforce federal laws
Obama and Lynch were the left arm of the DNC, suggesting some sort of independence is laughable
especially when they had no investigation about their girl who actually took millions of dollars from foreign entities, you can't make shit this stupid up
Did anyone watch Holder in action? seriously? and then Lynch?
These people were not independent about anything ever. They acted as if they were Obama's Chief of Staff, everything they did was political
from attempting to give Gitmo detainees a civil trial, the fucking idiots did that once and then quickly pulled back after losing something like 74 out of 75 counts, almost freeing a mass murderer
then giving arms to the Mexican cartel, and lying about it
then deciding what federal laws to not enforce
then deciding to go after state's that tried to enforce federal laws
Obama and Lynch were the left arm of the DNC, suggesting some sort of independence is laughable
especially when they had no investigation about their girl who actually took millions of dollars from foreign entities, you can't make shit this stupid up
Abusing govt to "punish our enemies"
DHS targeting "right wing extremists"
IRS targeting the Tea Party
This AFTER Hussein's first FISA request was denied...
October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.
Now we find out they've been bugging/spying on a sitting Senator (Jeff Sessions) as well?
Yes nuckers, this looks VERY bad for your side.
Ahhhh, yeah if the wiretap was requested and denied there goes your burden of proof. If it was requested and denied another time. Even more so destroys your suspicion. Now what happens IF IT WAS DONE ANYWAY? Berry said:
Clapper:
Then what are we talking about then? How do they know what and wasnt done if there was no wire tapping? And again, ill connect the dots for you. If there is no vote tampering WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY AFRAID OF? HOW WAS THE ELECTION INTERFERED WITH?
ITS THE EMAILS STUPID. What was exposed in those emails opened pandoras box. THESE PEOPLE ARE PEDOPHILES AND Pay for Play elected officials. This is a total smoke screen. WAKE UP.
The former Director of National Intelligence and numerous sitting senators on the Senate Intelligence Committee (both Ds and Rs) have stated they are completely unaware of any wiretapping from the former president.
As as of now, the only evidence spouted is from Trump, the guy who quickly turned his attention to tweeting about the Apprentice 30 minutes after making these unfounded claims.
Maybe it will work. The same people who will believe this fabrication are the same wingnuts pushing pizzagate.
As as of now, the only evidence spouted is from Trump, the guy who quickly turned his attention to tweeting about the Apprentice 30 minutes after making these unfounded claims.
Maybe it will work. The same people who will believe this fabrication are the same wingnuts pushing pizzagate.
FALSE... care to try again?
In Chapter 36 of Title 50 of the US Code *War and National Defense", Subchapter 1, Section 1802, we read the following:
(1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—
(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—
(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or
(ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power, as defined in section 1801(a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;
(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party; and
(C) the proposed minimization procedures with respect to such surveillance meet the definition of minimization procedures under section 1801(h) of this title; and
if the Attorney General reports such minimization procedures and any changes thereto to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at least thirty days prior to their effective date, unless the Attorney General determines immediate action is required and notifies the committees immediately of such minimization procedures and the reason for their becoming effective immediately.
Im certainly no attorney, but the first bolded section states that the president can authorize electronic surveillance in specific situations...and that seems to indicate that a FISA warrant isn't necessary in those cases. I was talking about the issuence of a FISA warrant because that is what was being suggested as having taken place by others in this thread. I said the POTUS doesn't submit FISA requests...
Also, based on the second bolded section, it doesn't appear that this method would work as I would think US citizens will be using phones.
so, I'm assuming you think Obama ordered Trump's phones to be tapped...where is the evidence for his claim. When spicer was asked he directed it to congress...lol. If they had proof, wouldn't they just hand it over?
Dont assume anything about me here im refuting what you said.
As far as B. bolded... Fox News correspondent James Rosen was notoriously wiretapped in 2013 when the DOJ was investigating government leaks. The Associated Press was also infamously wiretapped in relation to the same investigation. Via zero hedge
You have typed the acronym FISA into this website so much over the last two days, everyone is having problems logging in. Its bogged down the bandwith .Then you yield you're "no attorney" well you like to play one here don't you? Who knows what other topics youre not qualified to speak about as well? Hence the questions ive asked you that you still have answered before i think its best you stay out of this thread in regards to legalities if you dont know the laws or at least post before you have a handle on them. Ill do what you failed to do for me, ill answer you questions...
I dont think there is a smoking gun yet. I think there is enough evidence or questions to warrant an investigation. And even if there was i would be very careful and make sure you bait this hook just right. I think this might be more than anything a big ruse to show no burden of proof as there was and still is no burden of proof for Trump doing any wrong doing with Russia. If we watch them throw out Trumps accusation because its baseless how can we always be hearing about Russia with no proof. Talking to Russian officials is all we have seen. They didnt interfere with the elections and we dont have any smoking guns for 6-9 months with this shit.... so how can this nonsense still be pushed? Trump is smarter than people give him credit for. Bannon is not one to be fucked with. Its poker. Trump might very well be holding a 2/9 offsuit pushing all in knowing this whole Russain thing is a bluff in itself.
