(Old Topic Dated 07-12-2002) Only SIX offshores will survive

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YES JOEY C, ALL BOOKS, THAT WOULD INCLUDE CRIS AND GRANDE. AGAIN ALL BOOKS MOVE OFF AIR.
 

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I can't mention any names but Biff you can probably guess their names. By the way, about 60 smart players will take a break for 60 days at Christmas time. Can't mention any names here either but Biff you probably know who they are.
 

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"Some people like them, some don't. If you don't like this one, don't bother clicking on anymore of them, because they will be the same."

So it's OK now to post wild-ass speculation and unsubstantiated book-slamming because people don't have to click on it if they don't like it? There may be some newbies who actually believe this trash and won't post up with an otherwise solid book because they read it here.

"I like his posts, and some of them stimulate good conversation."

In other words: as long as he gets 40 responses to his posts, he can say anything he wants to because then the shrink can tell advertisers how busy his site is because of all these "Biff is full of shit" posts. Either he names names or shows SOME proof of what he's saying (and none of this "I'm not getting paid to tell" shit) or it's down to the rubber room.

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And how do you know Grande & Cris move off air?

Did you work for both these places?

Do you know the owners and how they operate?

Or are you just guessing how they operate?

Time to tell or time to be quiet....
 
You are correct. That's exactly the point I was trying to make to Chips. Neither does Grande ...
 

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JOEY C, DO YOU WORK FOR EITHER ONE OF THOSE 2 BOOKS, IF NOT HOW WOULD YOU KNOW AND IF YOU DO IS YOUR NAME S--P, R.S., M-C. DONT THINK SO. SO DONT TELL ME THEY DONT DO IT.

BEFORE YOU GUYS GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE, I DONT THINK THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH MOVING OFF OF AIR AND I ALSO BELIEVE IF YOU DONT YOU WILL GET BURIED. WITH THAT BEING SAID I ALSO BELIEVE THAT CRIS AND GRANDE ARE TOP NOTCH SHOPS AND MOVE THE LEAST OFF AIR OF ANY BOOKS OUT THERE BY A LARGE MARGIN NONETHELESS THEY DO IT AS WELL.
 
Biff does Biff.

I personally find it less tiring that your dumbass attempt at flaming JR Miller on the offshore forum.

You want to answer, do it in rubber room, I brought your "thread" down there.
 
No I'm not anyone of the 3 people you mentioned.

Grande and Cris do not move on air.

If you knew anything about RS's business - you would know that he never moved a line himself anyways, people like Mac do this job!.

You can believe this or not - that's up to you.

As far as I'm concerned the subject is closed
 

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JOEY, I GUESS SINCE YOU SAID THE NAME MAC, WHO DID U THINK I WAS IMPLYING WHEN I SAID M-C, PLUS IF YOU KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BUSINESS OVER THERE YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN MAC HASNT BEEN THERE FOR OVER 3 MONTHS.

WITHOUT GETTING INTO ANY DETAILS, I HAVE MOVED FOR SOME OF THE MOST SUCCESFUL BETTORS OUT THERE, I HAVE BET FOR SCALPERS WHO DIDNT HAVE A CLUE, I HAVE BET FOR SUCKERS WHO BET GAMES ON TV(BUT NEED AT LEAST 50K A POP), AND I HAVE PLACED BETS ON MY OWN. I ALSO CURRENTLY WORK FOR A BOOK. LETS SAY A MOVE COMES IN ON IOWA -6 AND THE WHOLE SCREEN GOES TO -7.5 AND PURPOSELY GRANDE AND OR CRIS WASNT HIT ON THAT GAME. BOTH OF THESE EXCELLENT BOOKMAKERS (WHO HAVENT TAKEN A HIT YET) WILL MOVE THE GAME TO 7 OR AT LEAST -6.5 AND TAKE THE HIT THERE. FOLLOWERS WILL ALWAYS LAY THE BAD # BECAUSE THEY ARE CLUELESS, SO THESE 2 BOOKS WILL GET PLAYED AT -6.5 OR -7 WHEN THE WHOLE WORLD IS AT -7.5. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THEY BOOK A BET AT -6 WHEN THEY KNOW 100% A FOLLOWER WILL LAY -6.5 OR -7. ASK THE 2 EXCELLENT BOOKMAKERS THEMSELVES WHAT THEY WOULD DO IN THAT SITUATION AND IN FACT HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. ONLY AN INCOMPETENT IDIOT WILL NOT MOVE ON AIR IN THAT SPOT.

JOEY C IN COLLEGE HOOPS WhERE GAMES GO FROM -1 TO -7 ON ARK LITTLE ROCK VS ARK ST DO YOU REALLY THINK CRIS AND GRANDE TAKE A HIT AT EVERY # UP THE LADDER.
DO YOU THINK THIER CHART LOOKS LIKE THIS:
ARK LR -1 5000
-1.5 5000
-2 5000
-2.5 5000
-3 5000
ETC.... 5000
-7 5000
DONT THINK SO, NOW GET OUT OF FAIRY TALE LAND AND ACCEPT THAT FACT THAT EVEN THE 2 GREATEST BOOKMAKERS ON EARTH(AND I DO FEEL THEY ARE) WILL MOVE ON AIR, WITHOUT QUESTION.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN AN OBSCURE 2ND HALF LINE WHEN A TEAM IS UP SAY 35 POINTS AT HALF IN THE NBA AND CRIS PUTS UP -2 AND OLYMPIC PUTS UP -6 SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND MAGICALLY BOTH LINES ARE -3.5 WITHIN SECONDS. IS THAT NOT MOVING OFF AIR???? DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT BOTH TOOK LIMIT BETS IN THAT 9 SECOND SPAN. NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!!! BOTH BOOKMAKERS DO THE RIGHT THING BY ADJUSTING THIER LINE WITHOUT TAKING A HIT(MOVING OFF AIR) AND IF THE DIDNT THEY WOULD BE BROKE AND NEITHER OF THOSE 2 SHOPS ARE BROKE.

[This message was edited by chips on 07-14-02 at 11:57 PM.]
 

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Just about everyone moves on air, if you consider that the opening line generally comes from Olympic for most events. Following their lead is akin to moving on air any way you slice it.
 
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By "moving on air" I mean a shop is not among those who get hit by the syndicates.

If they know the syndicates are hitting a game and beat them to the line move, that's not moving on air, that's self-preservation.

I used to get some syndicate games before a few "linemakers" and would "warn" them with my small unit on the "right side."
 

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