That's a key component of US involvement, as is maintaining control of the oil pipelines between Europe and Southeast Asia.
All the blah-blah about "protecting American freedoms" is to ease the pain for those American families who have their kids dying on the Afghan frontier.
Most Leftys were against both Afg and Iraq yet they won't admit that now. That had a lot to do with hating Bush for some, hating all war for others.
But that's not the real point. The gov't has more knowledge of this situation than we do. [Some of you believe we have a right to know everything our gov't does, but I disagree as it's for our own safety]
Obama is privy to intelligence now that he didn't possess while a candidate. And he chooses to continue the fight/Bush policy in Afg. Doesn't that tell us something?
But that's not the real point. The gov't has more knowledge of this situation than we do. [Some of you believe we have a right to know everything our gov't does, but I disagree as it's for our own safety]
Obama is privy to intelligence now that he didn't possess while a candidate. And he chooses to continue the fight/Bush policy in Afg. Doesn't that tell us something?
OK ST, I should have said far left. They're the ones with the loudest voices.
I remember posting at Major Wager's 'Canteen' pre/post 9/11 and the forum had a lot of people screaming when we went into Afg. Yes, some of them were truthers and Guardian and UK Independent readers from Europe, but there was a lot of howling from the Left.
I remember posting at Major Wager's 'Canteen' pre/post 9/11 and the forum had a lot of people screaming when we went into Afg. Yes, some of them were truthers and Guardian and UK Independent readers from Europe, but there was a lot of howling from the Left.
I'll call your bullshit and misrepresentation.
The poll numbers right after 9/11 are nothing more than the understandable reaction of the American people to the shock of being attacked.
To lump in support for Afghanistan using those poll numbers is just not true.
Here is Rummy in October...already fighting off the labels of quagmire thrown at him by the liberal press.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it. !~~~!
War on track, U.S. insists
Rumsfeld denies `quagmire,' hints at attacks during Ramadan
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/sns-worldtrade-ontrack-ct,0,2115923.story#
October 29, 2001
<!-- sphereit start --> WASHINGTON - The Bush administration dismissed criticism of its military campaign against Afghanistan on Sunday, saying the war was progressing as planned despite increased civilian casualties and violent unrest in neighboring Pakistan, a key U.S. ally.
"It's not a quagmire," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said after defending U.S. strategy on morning talk shows
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/sns-worldtrade-ontrack-ct,0,2115923.story
A really weak response even for you. Stamping your feet doesn't make your point any better.
Afghanistan was immediately peddled as a quagmire by the left...October 2001 Rummy is aleady having to defend it. Not even a month!
We all know you guys just parrot what you hear in the media...it's proof enough for anyone here that pays attention. @)
You tried to present a Bush poll immediately after 9/11 as support for Afghanistan.
That is a misrepresentation of the facts.
I gave a link showing Rummy was already fighting off quagmire labels within a month.
Man up and just admit you were wrong....but no...your instinct is to change the subject...throw out even more personal attacks and baseless lies.
That's just what moonbat lefties do...and I'll keep pointing it out.
This is a quote from your own link:
49% of Americans said they favored a long-term war against global terrorism, while 43% favored limiting military efforts to finding those responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks.
Less than half of Americans supported a long term war ...which is exactly what most of us remember with the hard left griping about quagmires and war mongering... as my previous link showed Rummy having to address in late October 2001.
It sure as hell wasn't 92% of Americans ok with Afghanistan.
Your link also shows 75% of Americans were fine with going into Iraq.
This so called war on terror is a joke. As for that huge hype all over the news about a major terrorist being killed...what a joke. That's propaganda for you. The public just eats it up. Celebrating a ''big victory'' in a battle against terror.
Some other guy will gladly step in, and as somebody else in here said, he will be bigger and meaner and badder than the guy before him.
Make no doubt, for every terrorist the U.S.A kills, 2 or 4 will step in his place. 9/11 was just a sample of things to come unfortunately. You can't go around killing innocent people and especially attacking countries like Iraq for no conceivable reason. I can't believe there hasn't been a revolt against the government. They are sending young males out there to die for oil and other interests, for a make believe war on terror and spending tons of cash and ruining U.S.A's reputation in the world.
U.S.A has become a bully and they are making a lot of enemies and losing international support quickly. It's going to come back and haunt them. Aside from 9/11 I mean.
Look how worked up we all get over 9/11. How about the animals that vicious animals that attack countries like Iraq for no reason? The innocent civilians they kill when they bomb middle eastern countries?
Blood for blood baby. It sounds like I'm against the U.S but I'm not. Just saying the bullying has, and will continue to come back to haunt the U.S.
Hell, using U.S.A's excuse, India should go Nuke Pakistan or should have long time ago, because they are a 'major threat' to the safety of India. What if every country went around attacking other countries they feel might be a threat to them? Especially in today's day and age when every country has or is attaining nuclear weapons, that's a scary thought.
Some other guy will gladly step in, and as somebody else in here said, he will be bigger and meaner and badder than the guy before him.
Make no doubt, for every terrorist the U.S.A kills, 2 or 4 will step in his place. 9/11 was just a sample of things to come unfortunately. You can't go around killing innocent people and especially attacking countries like Iraq for no conceivable reason. I can't believe there hasn't been a revolt against the government. They are sending young males out there to die for oil and other interests, for a make believe war on terror and spending tons of cash and ruining U.S.A's reputation in the world.
U.S.A has become a bully and they are making a lot of enemies and losing international support quickly. It's going to come back and haunt them. Aside from 9/11 I mean.
Look how worked up we all get over 9/11. How about the animals that vicious animals that attack countries like Iraq for no reason? The innocent civilians they kill when they bomb middle eastern countries?
Blood for blood baby. It sounds like I'm against the U.S but I'm not. Just saying the bullying has, and will continue to come back to haunt the U.S.
Hell, using U.S.A's excuse, India should go Nuke Pakistan or should have long time ago, because they are a 'major threat' to the safety of India. What if every country went around attacking other countries they feel might be a threat to them? Especially in today's day and age when every country has or is attaining nuclear weapons, that's a scary thought.
