Now the bad news

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

Total Recall said:
In January 2005, when asked by Meet the Press's Tim Russert whether he would have voted to authorize the war-`knowing that there are no weapons of mass destruction'-Emanuel answered yes-'I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, okay?'

And this from Worldnetdaily.com.

Asked in 2005 by late NBC host Tim Russert whether he would have voted to authorize the war knowing that there were no weapons of mass destruction, Emanuel replied yes. (Emanuel was elected to Congress after the authorization vote.)
"I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, OK?" he added.

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

Total Recall said:
PubGuy- There was no article. Cutting and pasting articles doesnt do it for me. Its not cathartic enough. I wrote it myself. Why- was it that good?:aktion033

I originally wanted to read the whole article thinking there was more to it and about an interesting topic, how Obama selected his staff. Instead of pointing me in the right direction you took credit for writing all of it. Perhaps you should give it a rest.

I will say that I do similar cut and paste jobs with some of my posts. My recent posts in the 9/11 thread are examples of this. I just don't take credit for it when asked where the info came from.

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

"Does this mean there isn’t an Amero in the works? I don’t know."

Thats right. You dont know. You also have to admit the chances are better then them blowing up Saturn. :nohead: So stop ridiculing the idea. The AMERO in my opinion is a good idea- after you consider the alternative- a decade or more of Depression. I say write off the dollar as soon as possible- give everyone a new start- write of the debt of the world- everybody feels the sting for a while- do a conversion to a reasonable settlement on the dead dollar and call it pennies from heaven.

Take what you can get and live with it. In the meantime divest yourself of most of dollar holdings now. Cheney has gone Euro. Why shouldnt you?

If you can still buy gold- do it. If its "backwardized" its to late for that though.

rolltide · Dec 29, 2008

let's get to questions that really matter to the sheeple...

does rahm emanuel have a six pack?

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

rolltide said:
let's get to questions that really matter to the sheeple...

does rahm emanuel have a six pack?

:lol:

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

Asked in 2005 by late NBC host Tim Russert whether he would have voted to authorize the war knowing that there were no weapons of mass destruction, Emanuel replied yes. (Emanuel was elected to Congress after the authorization vote.)
"I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, OK?" he added.
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Where is an opinion I should have sourced here? All you have is Rahm and his factual quote. You still dont understand the difference?

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

Total Recall said:
"Does this mean there isn’t an Amero in the works? I don’t know."

Thats right. You dont know. You also have to admit the chances are better then them blowing up Saturn. :nohead: So stop ridiculing the idea. The AMERO in my opinion is a good idea- after you consider the alternative- a decade or more of Depression. I say write off the dollar as soon as possible- give everyone a new start- write of the debt of the world- everybody feels the sting for a while- do a conversion to a reasonable settlement on the dead dollar and call it pennies from heaven.

Take what you can get and live with it. In the meantime divest yourself of most of dollar holdings now. Cheney has gone Euro. Why shouldnt you?

If you can still buy gold- do it. If its "backwardized" its to late for that though.

A coin designer/artist made these Ameros not our Treasury. HAHA

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

And there is no current plan to join in a North American Union.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

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I NEVER SAID THAT WAS AN ACTUAL COIN. ITS A PICTURE OF ONE. iTS STILL A SECCRET. I SAID THE AMERO PLAN EXISTS- AND SHOWED A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT WILL NOT BE INTRODUCED UNTIL THE DOLLAR COLLAPSES.

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Oh really?

"BTW- update- Recently 800 billion dollars worth of these babies were sent to China in advance of the coming declaration of the switchover. after all- China currently holds more of our soon to be worthless devalued Dollars" than any country on the planet.

So your arguement is that our gov't sent 800 billion of non-actual coins to China?

Still a secret? It's on fucking Youtube!!!

C'mon.

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

Total Recall said:
Asked in 2005 by late NBC host Tim Russert whether he would have voted to authorize the war knowing that there were no weapons of mass destruction, Emanuel replied yes. (Emanuel was elected to Congress after the authorization vote.)
"I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, OK?" he added.
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Where is an opinion I should have sourced here? All you have is Rahm and his factual quote. You still dont understand the difference?

I don't know what should be sourced or not. Those rules have been blurred anyway in today's blogosphere. My only point was that you cut and pasted your post together and then took credit (smugly) for writing the whole thing, when clearly full paragraphs were copied.

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

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PubGuy- There was no article. Cutting and pasting articles doesnt do it for me. Its not cathartic enough. I wrote it myself. Why- was it that good?:aktion033

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I originally wanted to read the whole article thinking there was more to it and about an interesting topic, how Obama selected his staff. Instead of pointing me in the right direction you took credit for writing all of it.

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What article? I never saw any article by Chomsky. I took credit for nothing here but MY opinion which is that 18-25 year olds are in trouble after thinking only a vote for McCain would mean the Draft. I gave my opinions based on common facts concerning Rahm and his history. Chomsky didnt create these facts.Rahm Emanuel did. He's the only one I needed to source - and I did.

And Im sorry I didnt know what direction you were going in...jeeeeez :shocked:

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pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

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PubGuy- There was no article. Cutting and pasting articles doesnt do it for me. Its not cathartic enough. I wrote it myself. Why- was it that good?:aktion033

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I originally wanted to read the whole article thinking there was more to it and about an interesting topic, how Obama selected his staff. Instead of pointing me in the right direction you took credit for writing all of it.

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What article? I never saw any article by Chomsky. I took credit for nothing here but MY opinion which is that 18-25 year olds are in trouble after thinking only a vote for McCain would mean the Draft. I gave my opinions based on common facts concerning Rahm and his history. Chomsky didnt create these facts.Rahm Emanuel did. He's the only one I needed to source - and I did.

And Im sorry I didnt know what direction you were going in...jeeeeez :shocked:

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http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2008/12/chomsky_is_ther.html

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

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Asked in 2005 by late NBC host Tim Russert whether he would have voted to authorize the war knowing that there were no weapons of mass destruction, Emanuel replied yes. (Emanuel was elected to Congress after the authorization vote.)
"I still believe that getting rid of Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do, OK?" he added.
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Where is an opinion I should have sourced here? All you have is Rahm and his factual quote. You still dont understand the difference?
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I don't know what should be sourced or not. Those rules have been blurred anyway in today's blogosphere. My only point was that you cut and pasted your post together and then took credit (smugly) for writing the whole thing, when clearly full paragraphs were copied. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

The fact that you found a similar sentence structure I used in decribing a fact in my piece doesnt prove I ever saw any Chomsky article at all let alone copy any opinion of his and "take credit" as my own. I asked you to show me where I copied any opinion and you couldnt because I didnt. You do realize pieces of information with similar sentence structures from articles are all over the place posted by different people people who read them and repeated the info therein until I came accross them and did the same thing. Its called the fucking information highway. It goes everywhere and it comes frome everywhere.

Stop trying to make accusations and start debating my articles. Thats why I write them you know.

I get the facts and I write my own opinions. Thats what I do. I dont copy someone elses opinions. That the rules I know go by.

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

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"Does this mean there isn’t an Amero in the works? I don’t know."

Thats right. You dont know. You also have to admit the chances are better then them blowing up Saturn. :nohead: So stop ridiculing the idea. The AMERO in my opinion is a good idea- after you consider the alternative- a decade or more of Depression. I say write off the dollar as soon as possible- give everyone a new start- write of the debt of the world- everybody feels the sting for a while- do a conversion to a reasonable settlement on the dead dollar and call it pennies from heaven.

Take what you can get and live with it. In the meantime divest yourself of most of dollar holdings now. Cheney has gone Euro. Why shouldnt you?

If you can still buy gold- do it. If its "backwardized" its to late for that though.
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A coin designer/artist made these Ameros not our Treasury. HAHA

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/amero.asp

And there is no current plan to join in a North American Union.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/nau.asp

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I NEVER SAID THAT WAS AN ACTUAL COIN. ITS A PICTURE OF ONE. iTS STILL A SECCRET. I SAID THE AMERO PLAN EXISTS- AND SHOWED A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. IT WILL NOT BE INTRODUCED UNTIL THE DOLLAR COLLAPSES.

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Oh really?

"BTW- update- Recently 800 billion dollars worth of these babies were sent to China in advance of the coming declaration of the switchover. after all- China currently holds more of our soon to be worthless devalued Dollars" than any country on the planet.

So your arguement is that our gov't sent 800 billion of non-actual coins to China?

Still a secret? It's on fucking Youtube!!!

C'mon.

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"A coin designer/artist made these Ameros not our Treasury. HAHA"

Cant you understand anything without extensive explanation?

I posted a picture of the Amero. That picture wasnt a picture of a coin. It was a picture of one of the various designs that were being looked at. Thats what I stated. Do you understand the difference between a picture of a coin design and a picture of a real coin?

"So your arguement is that our gov't sent 800 billion of non-actual coins to China?"

Of course not. The coins were minted in Denver and 800 billion were sent to China. Its still a secret in this country however. They wont be unveiled until the dollar finally collapses by june of 2009.

So- after all your fuss over nothing here you see that neither statement is a contradiction of the other.

Give it up. You are boring me...:smoker2:

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pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

They were never minted! That's my point. Some artist created these things to encourage debate on the subject and to sell them on his website. You say the fact that they exist proves some conspiracy theory. My point - they don't exist as real currency, thus your conspiracy theory is hogwash.

BTW, did you notice how civil I am being?

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

You are in quicksand buddy. You could have just said that you took some quotes and added your input. That would be fine and is mostly what many of us do. But instead you said, "Cutting and pasting articles doesnt do it for me. Its not cathartic enough. I wrote it myself. Why- was it that good?" haha
The most curious statement in your original post was this, "In fact, he was the only member of the Illinois delegation who voted for Bush's effective declaration of war." I wanted to see if that was true, so I went to Google. Turns out it is pretty tough to find because of this portion, "Bush's effective declaration of war" That means it can refer to any number of different bills and fact finding in our gov't records can be tedious. So I pasted the whole sentence into google and the results were interesting. There are nine hits with that exact sentence and they all refer back to the Chomsky speech. So regardless of where you stumbled across it, you copied that exact sentence and then claimed to write it yourself. It would have ended there as far as I'm concerned, as I am not the cut and paste police, except you keep defending it.

Loren78 · Dec 29, 2008

Total Recall said:
PubGuy- There was no article. Cutting and pasting articles doesnt do it for me. Its not cathartic enough. I wrote it myself. Why- was it that good?:aktion033

Dilrod-The good news is were still alive. But that may soon change if you are between 18-25. That was the point of my piece. Thanks to this guy who reminds me of Himmler. Thin wiry little bulldog that he was- propaganda minister I believe wasnt he? :think2:

Loren- Its all about the -EL As in Emanu-EL? I understand that now thanks to you. He was appointed by Obama by the order of Nicholas- the black pope who replaced the aging Kolvenbach. ope:

Scotty- Shame on you for costing your father all that money for nothing. hno:

Barman- I have nothing to say to you except one word- AMERO.:howdy:

Oh...I didn't realize you were clued up on the GOD EL Total....See most planets are depicted as Squares right? So everything that happens is on the square...right? hehe..

EL was the Canaanite God...hence you listened to your "ELDERS"...This was back when there were Mystery Schools....only the privileged ie the EL-ite were allowed to attend...

You see how that works right? Before UNI-Verse-Cities came along, they burned the important books, and removed all the real knowledge and kept it hidden unto themselves....these are the people who introduced money...

So even educated Slaves are still Slaves because they believe they are free...Money ain't Power....Knowledge is....The knowledge of how to use money as a weapon against the public is ancient...So when most of these Saps graduate Co-LL-Age or Uni-Verse-City....The Order makes them wear these....

Cuz they are a buncha a SQUARES...

:nohead:

random1323 · Dec 29, 2008

oh no they make em where square caps when they get their degrees hat will get them a better future than if they didn't

Loren78 · Dec 29, 2008

random1323 said:
oh no they make em where square caps when they get their degrees hat will get them a better future than if they didn't

what?

TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

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The most curious statement in your original post was this, "In fact, he was the only member of the Illinois delegation who voted for Bush's effective declaration of war." I wanted to see if that was true, so I went to Google. Turns out it is pretty tough to find because of this portion, "Bush's effective declaration of war" That means it can refer to any number of different bills and fact finding in our gov't records can be tedious. So I pasted the whole sentence into google and the results were interesting. There are nine hits with that exact sentence and they all refer back to the Chomsky speech. So regardless of where you stumbled across it, you copied that exact sentence and then claimed to write it yourself. It would have ended there as far as I'm concerned, as I am not the cut and paste police, except you keep defending it.

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I keep defending it because I take a charge of not sourcing very seriously. And since you admit you do not know the rules anyway the question remains- why do you keep attacking me?

You wont win this argument with what you put forth. You are in the quicksand- not I.

If you cant find an opinion I copied word for word from some article you say is Chomskys your charge is baseless.

You see- its not the facts that need protecting in his article- its the opinions.I gave you examples of facts vs. opinions. You still refuse to recognize the difference.

Copying a fact is not plagerizing. Facts stand alone. How many ways can you say "the strongest supporter of the war in IRAQ?" You think Chomsky owns any right to those words? Of course not- so no credit need be given.

Why you still dont get it is the big question. I think you do but your just trying to irritate me. Just stay civil and you wont- but at some point you will have to give up with this false charge. I eagerly await the day you do.
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TotalRecall · Dec 29, 2008

Oh...I didn't realize you were clued up on the GOD EL Total....See most planets are depicted as Squares right? So everything that happens is on the square...right? hehe..

EL was the Canaanite God...hence you listened to your "ELDERS"...This was back when there were Mystery Schools....only the privileged ie the EL-ite were allowed to attend...

You see how that works right? Before UNI-Verse-Cities came along, they burned the important books, and removed all the real knowledge and kept it hidden unto themselves....these are the people who introduced money...

So even educated Slaves are still Slaves because they believe they are free...Money ain't Power....Knowledge is....The knowledge of how to use money as a weapon against the public is ancient...So when most of these Saps graduate Co-LL-Age or Uni-Verse-City....The Order makes them wear these....

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If Leo Zagami is right- there will be a black man installed as the next Pope. A true Black Pope. Do you agree with this assertion?

pubguy · Dec 29, 2008

You say you wrote it and you obviously cut and pasted quotes and added your input. Not a big deal to me. I enjoyed discussing it with you. It shows how you think. I have said all I am going to say about this issue. :toast: