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it's always fun poking fun at you and copy and pastes!!! was this part of david letterman's top 10???? pretty commical:biggrinin

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bush was correct and going after this genocidal madman -- we went to korea, vietnam, bosnia, unprovoked. hell, we went after hitler as well!!!! besides, all this this argument is so frivolous, and misguided get over it already!!! the congress (including the flip-flopper) and the President over-whelmingly voted for this war with the same eveidence provided. and you "buddy" clinton said the same thing about hussein, nearly verbatim in 1999 he also said there was succinct evidence linking hussein to al queda).

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more of the same -- the President can only present to be true what he's told to be true.

3.redundant argument here --

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it was proven that members of the uss abraham asked for it -- who cares who made it -- typical -- leftie let's argue semantics????

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unforseen costs related to the war --we were/are in a major war -- or did you forget that???? not to mention the fact that your buddy "clinton" put us into a recession. also you and i both know that congressional budget forecasts are about as accurate as your local weather man.

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tax cuts have little to no effect on the deficit, that's been proven more times than you've sh*t in your life. the tax cuts are the main stimulant that has spawned this economic rebound -- per alan greenspan! spending needs to be cut!!!

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done by a bi-partisan congressional committee -- typical leftie -- let's spend more money in an act of redundancy????

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you are really stretching it for lies here my God!!! this happens with every president! key word in your spew of crap "underestimated"!!!! revisions are a constant in DC regardless of the party.

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you forgot the part of his speech " ...in accordance with the clean air act..." and this was NOT considered a pollutant under the aforementioned -- quit twisting the facts!!!

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now, you've crossed the line!!! come on wil you really can't/don't believe that bush is the divider here??? now i'v heard it all:neenee:
 

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I need some help here - I tried to come up with the top ten truths that Kerry has told - and I can't think of any - the guy is such a bald faced liar, he tells lies about his lies.

Wil - maybe you can copy and paste a few dozen NY Time or Boston Post articles about some truth that Kerry has told!
 

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Kerry will raise taxes, that's true.

Kerry will defer to the corupt UN, that's true

That's all I can think of that Kerry has really been honest about.
 

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Post it all up guys.


There must be a neocon somewhere in the world you can copy/paste.

The internet is a big resource.
Just ask your social worker for help.

Don't forget to cycle out those cartridges before you put the shotgun down on the desk btw.
 

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easy $$$

too bad the bushies will miss out on the easy $$$ (+130-+150)

 

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let me get this straight -- bush loses -- fla, colo, minn, pa, ohio, and iowa!!:smashf: ya right.
 

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Bush will win every state. The popular vote will be over 99% for Bush. Nader will have more votes than Kerry.






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Wilheim,

YOu have way to much time on your hands...I hope you'll find something else to do with your time after George W. takes it to the house Tuesday night....W04
 

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It is criminal what the media has done to the demi's in this country with this build up to the election. The only other thing I can think of even close to this is the Y2K scare. All the money clinton spent preventing Y2k and not one toaster blew up on the kitchen counter.
 

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Tuesday is going to be a fine day and what is gong to be so funny is these people believe the whole Kerry hype. It's media created I believe the Bush victory will come in early in the day. Think about this have you noticed the silence on the early voting exit polls? I haven't, if it was good for Kerry they would be running it day and night, so that means it must look very good for Bush.
 

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it's a mockery

It makes a mockery of democracy that such an incompetent bunch of blunderers stands such a good chance of being re-elected. Surely no-one seriously thinks that the world will be a safer place for UK and US citizens 4 years from now if Bush gets back in? It sure as hell is no safer now than it was before the whole Iraq mess-up got started.

Whoever gets in will have some serious repair work to do on the economy with a Budget deficit not made any better by bleeding lots of cash out in Iraq. Not even the staunchest Republican could deny that Clinton did a lot of good work to get the economy in shape, this legacy has been destroyed by Bush.

In 1997 I campaigned hard for Blair in this country because I was sick of the clueless idiots who were then at the top of the Tory Government. Now I will not be voting for any party which has Blair as its leader:

1. We entered a war for no apparent reason that I could see at the time or since. I never for one moment thought Iraq had a credible weapon of mass destruction and I still don't.

2. We have stood by whilst the US troops have made a monumental cock-up of running Iraq. Not that the total lack of post-war planning from the guys above did them any favors.

3. We have been willing partners in the Guantanemo Bay episode, the sort of treatment democracies are supposed to fight wars to prevent happening we have fought one to perpetrate.

4. The worldwide support for our 2001-2 attacks on Afghanistan has been completely and utterly ruined, and there will be a heavy price to pay for this in both our nations.

5. Anyone who thinks that these problems can be solved by the further use of force is totally deluded. But considering the US Gvt. seem to think that Israel's policy toward the PLO is working I would not be surprised if there were plenty of folk in the Bush White House who are indeed this deluded.
 

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It makes a mockery of democracy that such an incompetent bunch of blunderers stands such a good chance of being re-elected. Surely no-one seriously thinks that the world will be a safer place for UK and US citizens 4 years from now if Bush gets back in? It sure as hell is no safer now than it was before the whole Iraq mess-up got started.

Whoever gets in will have some serious repair work to do on the economy with a Budget deficit not made any better by bleeding lots of cash out in Iraq. Not even the staunchest Republican could deny that Clinton did a lot of good work to get the economy in shape, this legacy has been destroyed by Bush.

In 1997 I campaigned hard for Blair in this country because I was sick of the clueless idiots who were then at the top of the Tory Government. Now I will not be voting for any party which has Blair as its leader:

1. We entered a war for no apparent reason that I could see at the time or since. I never for one moment thought Iraq had a credible weapon of mass destruction and I still don't.

2. We have stood by whilst the US troops have made a monumental cock-up of running Iraq. Not that the total lack of post-war planning from the guys above did them any favors.

3. We have been willing partners in the Guantanemo Bay episode, the sort of treatment democracies are supposed to fight wars to prevent happening we have fought one to perpetrate.

4. The worldwide support for our 2001-2 attacks on Afghanistan has been completely and utterly ruined, and there will be a heavy price to pay for this in both our nations.

5. Anyone who thinks that these problems can be solved by the further use of force is totally deluded. But considering the US Gvt. seem to think that Israel's policy toward the PLO is working I would not be surprised if there were plenty of folk in the Bush White House who are indeed this deluded.

The religion of peace is at your door step and you don't even get it.
 

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all is not lost there is hope in 2008
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Illinois U.S. Senate hopeful, Republican Alan Keyes prays during services at Crusaders Ministries...
 

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i know you dems are desperate, but i really don't think keyes will run for president under the democratic party in 2008 -- he's too good a man to stoop that low!



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try to think bushies, read below and learn

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=alt1>I hope this argument can reach even what appears to be the creationist, america can do no wrong, lobby for the present incompetent regime...The only way Americans will have a presidency in which neoconservatives and the Christian Armageddon set are not holding the reins of power is if Kerry is elected.

Kerry’s the One

By Scott McConnell



There is little in John Kerry’s persona or platform that appeals to conservatives. The flip-flopper charge—the centerpiece of the Republican campaign against Kerry—seems overdone, as Kerry’s contrasting votes are the sort of baggage any senator of long service is likely to pick up. (Bob Dole could tell you all about it.) But Kerry is plainly a conventional liberal and no candidate for a future edition of Profiles in Courage. In my view, he will always deserve censure for his vote in favor of the Iraq War in 2002.

But this election is not about John Kerry. If he were to win, his dearth of charisma would likely ensure him a single term. He would face challenges from within his own party and a thwarting of his most expensive initiatives by a Republican Congress. Much of his presidency would be absorbed by trying to clean up the mess left to him in Iraq. He would be constrained by the swollen deficits and a ripe target for the next Republican nominee.

It is, instead, an election about the presidency of George W. Bush. To the surprise of virtually everyone, Bush has turned into an important president, and in many ways the most radical America has had since the 19th century. Because he is the leader of America’s conservative party, he has become the Left’s perfect foil—its dream candidate. The libertarian writer Lew Rockwell has mischievously noted parallels between Bush and Russia’s last tsar, Nicholas II: both gained office as a result of family connections, both initiated an unnecessary war that shattered their countries’ budgets. Lenin needed the calamitous reign of Nicholas II to create an opening for the Bolsheviks.

Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be, and his continuation in office will discredit any sort of conservatism for generations. The launching of an invasion against a country that posed no threat to the U.S., the doling out of war profits and concessions to politically favored corporations, the financing of the war by ballooning the deficit to be passed on to the nation’s children, the ceaseless drive to cut taxes for those outside the middle class and working poor: it is as if Bush sought to resurrect every false 1960s-era left-wing cliché about predatory imperialism and turn it into administration policy. Add to this his nation-breaking immigration proposal—Bush has laid out a mad scheme to import immigrants to fill any job where the wage is so low that an American can’t be found to do it—and you have a presidency that combines imperialist Right and open-borders Left in a uniquely noxious cocktail.

During the campaign, few have paid attention to how much the Bush presidency has degraded the image of the United States in the world. Of course there has always been “anti-Americanism.” After the Second World War many European intellectuals argued for a “Third Way” between American-style capitalism and Soviet communism, and a generation later Europe’s radicals embraced every ragged “anti-imperialist” cause that came along. In South America, defiance of “the Yanqui” always draws a crowd. But Bush has somehow managed to take all these sentiments and turbo-charge them. In Europe and indeed all over the world, he has made the United States despised by people who used to be its friends, by businessmen and the middle classes, by moderate and sensible liberals. Never before have democratic foreign governments needed to demonstrate disdain for Washington to their own electorates in order to survive in office. The poll numbers are shocking. In countries like Norway, Germany, France, and Spain, Bush is liked by about seven percent of the populace. In Egypt, recipient of huge piles of American aid in the past two decades, some 98 percent have an unfavorable view of the United States. It’s the same throughout the Middle East.

Bush has accomplished this by giving the U.S. a novel foreign-policy doctrine under which it arrogates to itself the right to invade any country it wants if it feels threatened. It is an American version of the Brezhnev Doctrine, but the latter was at least confined to Eastern Europe. If the analogy seems extreme, what is an appropriate comparison when a country manufactures falsehoods about a foreign government, disseminates them widely, and invades the country on the basis of those falsehoods? It is not an action that any American president has ever taken before. It is not something that “good” countries do. It is the main reason that people all over the world who used to consider the United States a reliable and necessary bulwark of world stability now see us as a menace to their own peace and security.

These sentiments mean that as long as Bush is president, we have no real allies in the world, no friends to help us dig out from the Iraq quagmire. More tragically, they mean that if terrorists succeed in striking at the United States in another 9/11-type attack, many in the world will not only think of the American victims but also of the thousands and thousands of Iraqi civilians killed and maimed by American armed forces. The hatred Bush has generated has helped immeasurably those trying to recruit anti-American terrorists—indeed his policies are the gift to terrorism that keeps on giving, as the sons and brothers of slain Iraqis think how they may eventually take their own revenge. Only the seriously deluded could fail to see that a policy so central to America’s survival as a free country as getting hold of loose nuclear materials and controlling nuclear proliferation requires the willingness of foreign countries to provide full, 100 percent co-operation. Making yourself into the world’s most hated country is not an obvious way to secure that help.

I’ve heard people who have known George W. Bush for decades and served prominently in his father’s administration say that he could not possibly have conceived of the doctrine of pre-emptive war by himself, that he was essentially taken for a ride by people with a pre-existing agenda to overturn Saddam Hussein. Bush’s public performances plainly show him to be a man who has never read or thought much about foreign policy. So the inevitable questions are: who makes the key foreign-policy decisions in the Bush presidency, who controls the information flow to the president, how are various options are presented?

The record, from published administration memoirs and in-depth reporting, is one of an administration with a very small group of six or eight real decision-makers, who were set on war from the beginning and who took great pains to shut out arguments from professionals in the CIA and State Department and the U.S. armed forces that contradicted their rosy scenarios about easy victory. Much has been written about the neoconservative hand guiding the Bush presidency—and it is peculiar that one who was fired from the National Security Council in the Reagan administration for suspicion of passing classified material to the Israeli embassy and another who has written position papers for an Israeli Likud Party leader have become key players in the making of American foreign policy.

But neoconservatism now encompasses much more than Israel-obsessed intellectuals and policy insiders. The Bush foreign policy also surfs on deep currents within the Christian Right, some of which see unqualified support of Israel as part of a godly plan to bring about Armageddon and the future kingdom of Christ. These two strands of Jewish and Christian extremism build on one another in the Bush presidency—and President Bush has given not the slightest indication he would restrain either in a second term. With Colin Powell’s departure from the State Department looming, Bush is more than ever the “neoconian candidate.” The only way Americans will have a presidency in which neoconservatives and the Christian Armageddon set are not holding the reins of power is if Kerry is elected.

If Kerry wins, this magazine will be in opposition from Inauguration Day forward. But the most important battles will take place within the Republican Party and the conservative movement. A Bush defeat will ignite a huge soul-searching within the rank-and-file of Republicandom: a quest to find out how and where the Bush presidency went wrong. And it is then that more traditional conservatives will have an audience to argue for a conservatism informed by the lessons of history, based in prudence and a sense of continuity with the American past—and to make that case without a powerful White House pulling in the opposite direction. George W. Bush has come to embody a politics that is antithetical to almost any kind of thoughtful conservatism. His international policies have been based on the hopelessly naïve belief that foreign peoples are eager to be liberated by American armies—a notion more grounded in Leon Trotsky’s concept of global revolution than any sort of conservative statecraft. His immigration policies—temporarily put on hold while he runs for re-election—are just as extreme. A re-elected President Bush would be committed to bringing in millions of low-wage immigrants to do jobs Americans “won’t do.” This election is all about George W. Bush, and those issues are enough to render him unworthy of any conservative support.
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