what do you think his words mean?
as for the bill, a bill with the exact same wording passed at the federal level without one vote opposing the bill, and I believe he was the only opposition to the bill in IL as well.
GTC telling me to "read the bill"
BTW: he didn't support the federal bill, he was still a state Senator.
just tell me what the words he chose to speak mean?
as for the bill, a bill with the exact same wording passed at the federal level without one vote opposing the bill, and I believe he was the only opposition to the bill in IL as well.
GTC telling me to "read the bill"
BTW: he didn't support the federal bill, he was still a state Senator.
just tell me what the words he chose to speak mean?
If both the mother and her doctor agree that terminating the pregnancy is best, then there should be no interference with that termination.
As quickly and decisively as possible, end it.
Callous? Perhaps. But it satisfies the desire of both the pregnant female and her doctor. No other input is relevant or needed.
As quickly and decisively as possible, end it.
Callous? Perhaps. But it satisfies the desire of both the pregnant female and her doctor. No other input is relevant or needed.
at least barman is honest, he has no problem letting the baby die, just like our President.
Of course, our President is the only politician in the country to vote that way, and infanticide is illegal (sorry bar)
as for GTC, cheerleding extreme. He swallows spin without a reflex.
"giving the baby medical attention defeats the intent of the mother and the doctor" means what again?
there is no spinning the truth, he obviously wants to let the baby die
all the stuff you try to cite is his spin. since you are an extreme cheerleader, I expect nothing less of you and nothing more from you.
there is no spinning the truth, he obviously wants to let the baby die
all the stuff you try to cite is his spin. since you are an extreme cheerleader, I expect nothing less of you and nothing more from you.
Emotionally it's certainly tempting to take the side of the fetus, but I've just found it better to leave such hard decisions in the hands of the pregnant female and her doctor rather than intrude with my own personal bias.
To date, I'm unaware of a single American female or her doctor being prosecuted for having terminated a third trimester fetus, though such procedures do still occur about 2000 times a year nationwide. Thank goodness.
here's even more on it. like you said in an earlier post, its illegal. willie99 just goes with whatever his republican teammates say though without looking at illinois law. willie99 is what we call a cheerleader.
"there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony."
"there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony."
again, tell me what his words mean.
You have as much knowledge about this topic as you do all the others, NONE.
If you had a clue, or if you actually knew something of substance, you should have presented it by now. Obviously, you didn't so you don't.
Instead you utilize that brilliant left wing logic, Bush or Hannety or Rush or some other sorry ass accusation that means jack shit. Pathetic really
your falling for the media trap. if you saw the commencement, the president got a standing ovation. when a couple protestors stood up and yelled, the crowd started to yell either we are ND or yes we can, i couldnt figure out which one.
yea there were protestors, but same shit happened with bush.
There's no doubt that a rather small contingent of Americans who are strongly pro-choice somehow get wax in their ears at the very mention of any kind of pro-life ideas.
I myself can make a lot of good points for maintaining a pregnancy and delivering an unwanted fetus to term. (To then give up for adoption is the most sensible at that point).
But that doesn't mean I would endorse the state being able to FORCE an American female to do that against her will.
Unfortunately, that small percentage of ardent pro-choicers hear me (or Obama) give a respectful nod to carrying out the pregnancy and somehow they think we just endorsed state-coerced delivery against the pregnant female's wishes.
Good news is that people with so-called wax in their ears are only a small minority on most any side of any high profile public policy discussion. Therefore they are fairly easy to ignore.
A candidate that actually argued for infanticide while in the Illi state Senate, that promises to sign a piece of legislation that allows all abortions all the time for any reason payed for by the taxpayers, a President that already lifted the ban on using taxpayer money to pay for abortions in other countries, is now talking pro-life. You've got to be kidding.
Then again, many believe an earmark whore is going to abolish earmarks
The guy who just made more changes to the tax code than anyone is going to simplify taxes
The guy who just exploded the deficit projections into infinity is going to balance the budget
talk is cheap, and he has mastered that talent
barman, dont you think the media was making the ND thing bigger then it was though?
they made it sound like obama was going to get his head blown off down there. there were about 300 protestors and 10 students didnt go to the graduation, big deal. same shit happened when bush went to commencement speeches. nobody brought it up though because everyone hated bush and nobody cared if protestors protested against bush.
i think its a bad idea for the media to be playing this up like its something bigger then it really is just because they like obama.
they made it sound like obama was going to get his head blown off down there. there were about 300 protestors and 10 students didnt go to the graduation, big deal. same shit happened when bush went to commencement speeches. nobody brought it up though because everyone hated bush and nobody cared if protestors protested against bush.
i think its a bad idea for the media to be playing this up like its something bigger then it really is just because they like obama.
robfunk, willie99 is a republican team guy. the guy will never say anything good about dems. never has, even when he agrees with them.
he stayed quiet when his boy bush was in charge. he only talks now because dems are in charge. he knows his place and plays his role.
he votes for all republicans and is basically a toss out for the party. they know they'll get his money and vote so they ignore him pretty much heh.
he stayed quiet when his boy bush was in charge. he only talks now because dems are in charge. he knows his place and plays his role.
he votes for all republicans and is basically a toss out for the party. they know they'll get his money and vote so they ignore him pretty much heh.
hey, I love changes. Another Accountants and Attorneys Revenue Act.
It's that part about "I'm going to simplify the tax code" stuff that has me laughing.
Common ground? there is no common ground. That's the problem. Either its a living human being that is murdered or it is a lump of tissue that can be scraped out, thrown away, and never given another thought.
This nonsense about "maybe we can have a dialogue and meet in the middle" is just aint happening. He had no business being there and the folks who invited him should resign.
