No Cost Of Living Increase For Disabled 2010...

[Willie99]

Nice Willie, it only took you five weeks to answer a question not even directed at you with another question

If you really need my help interpreting the constitution I would be happy to help. The document is designed to protect basic human rights, not decide a persons ideology. Nor is it designed to determine every single thing the government does, instead only act as framework for our countries laws

I didn't notice when this thread was started or the date of your post, somebody else bumped it to the top.

The document actually goes out of it's way to define the responsibility of the federal government, and redistribution of wealth is not one of them. However, you can argue that the states should do that, and the framers would have expected that to be the states' decisions.

 

[TomGshotput]

The document actually goes out of it's way to define the responsibility of the federal government, and redistribution of wealth is not one of them

The federal government has been redistributing wealth in the form of tariffs starting in the 1700s. It then redistributed wealth with the federal income tax starting for the civil war. No branch of government has ever successfully ruled that these were unconstitutional

Unless we redistribute wealth in some form or another, we either have no federal government or we will need a government that can run itself with zero revenue. I have no clue what this has to do with the rest of the discussion, but if you can come up with a way around that problem, more power to you

 

[PointGiven]

I don't know enough about the American political system to know whether the President could force Congress to change the COLA system but I assume he could at least make it an issue.

The question is whether there is any reason to make it an issue. As I tried to explain in my last post, it's impossible to adjust the COLA so that it's fair for everyone. For some things you just have to go with the averages. A COLA impacts all people on SSI. Do you really want to increase SSI across the board even though the value of the money has actually gone up for the average recipient just because some elderly might have seen a slight inflation?

Also, what I have read so far does not even convince me that elderly have indeed experienced an inflation that requires a COLA. In the article MisterMJ posted only the beginning of (I can only guess why he chose not to post it in its entirety or at least link to it, but it's probably a good guess ;-) ), the only relevant figure that is given is that the average monthly premiums of the Medicare prescription drug program will rise from $28 to $30 next year. That's a whopping two dollars...
The article also mentions that many elderly "have suffered from declining home values and shrinking stock portfolios just as they are relying on those assets for income." That is certainly correct, but I assume that those are not the people who are eligible for SSI anyway. Here's the link:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9A8V4080&show_article=1

PG, tell me, what exactly would you like Obama to do?

how about tell the truth maybe? :drink:

 

[mplastered]

how about tell the truth maybe? :drink:

Good luck with that one.

 

[barman]

It's been demonstrated that the referenced COLAs were legislated in the Nixon administration, so if anyone wants to rag on President Barack Obama for this year's - knock yourself out

 

[PointGiven]

It's been demonstrated that the referenced COLAs were legislated in the Nixon administration, so if anyone wants to rag on President Barack Obama for this year's - knock yourself out

But I thought he was for "change"

lmfao

hilarious to me that food, rent, and gas arent included in the governments formula to calculate COLA

Obama could "change" that skewed formula if he so chose

I guess he is more focused on giving congress a raise at the end of this year

Obama and "change"....two words that go hand in hand hno:

 

[barman]

But I thought he was for "change"

lmfao

hilarious to me that food, rent, and gas arent included in the governments formula to calculate COLA

Obama could "change" that skewed formula if he so chose

I guess he is more focused on giving congress a raise at the end of this year

Obama and "change"....two words that go hand in hand hno:

President Barack Obama cannot write nor pass legislation in the United States system of goverment. Nor can he "give Congress a raise".

HTH your understanding

 

[Mistermj]

It's been demonstrated that the referenced COLAs were legislated in the Nixon administration, so if anyone wants to rag on President Barack Obama for this year's - knock yourself out

But it's still the Obama admin gaming the inflation numbers to make it all possible.

Cool trick though...Bush can't be blamed for everything Obama does...so lets go back to Nixon.

Sure to get some applause with a somewhat captive audience I guess. :lol:

 

[PointGiven]

But it's still the Obama admin gaming the inflation numbers to make it all possible.

Cool trick though...Bush can't be blamed for everything Obama does...so lets go back to Nixon.

Sure to get some applause with a somewhat captive audience I guess. :lol:

:toast:

and thats the bottom line....he could "change" things if he wanted to

but I dont see any "change" since Bush left :smoking:

 

[barman]

Yeah...Bush didn't change those COLA calculations...nor did Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Carter or Ford

Almost four decades of Presidents not listening to the cries of disabled Americans looking for the government to take care of them.

Heartless schmoes, all of them!

 

[PointGiven]

Yeah...Bush didn't change those COLA calculations...nor did Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Carter or Ford

Almost four decades of Presidents not listening to the cries of disabled Americans looking for the government to take care of them.

Heartless schmoes, all of them!

you are correct sir

but I thought Obama was the man who was going to "change" things?? :think2:


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