Netanyahu and Putin cozy up to one another (Israel has no choice because a Muslim is occupying the White House)

[The Guesser]

Posting this for everyone's consideration. I agree with some of it but not all of it. We'll see.....
December 8, 2015

Langfan: Putin has checkmated himself into a lose-lose Syrian debacle

There is no way Putin can come out a winner in the situation he has created for himself.

By Mark Langfan, INN

When Putin first teamed up with Iran and Assad, the two greatest state sponsors of terror in the world, to commit unabashed genocide against the Sunnis of Syria, there was breathless talk that “Putin Checkmated Obama.” It was as if Putin was playing against Obama. Then, after Turkey shot down Putin’s Mig and the Saudis openly declared that they would continue arming their Syrian proxies, the Syrian ground war got even uglier. For all Putin’s bluster, the very ugly reality of Syria has begun to set in.


Putin has never been fighting Obama; he’s been fighting and will have to come to fight hundreds of millions of Sunni Muslims who are coming to see Putin and Russia as the ultimate evil. What’s worse, whether Putin loses, or Putin “wins,” Putin will ultimately lose, lose big, and lose everything.

Let’s look at Putin’s problem objectively. On the one hand, if Putin “loses,” it will be clear he will have militarily lost, and it will be a truly ugly military loss like Afghanistan. If Afghanistan brought down the great and mighty USSR, Syria will bring down little Putin. For, despite Russia’s virtually infinite raids on the Syrian rebels with no limiting rules of engagement, Russian-Iran ground progress has been, at best, severely challenged.

Additionally, with Iran’s soon-in-coming introduction of its own fighter jet squadrons into the Syrian theater to genocidally massacre even more Sunnis, the Saudis and Turks will be forced to deliver shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles to take down the Assad barrel-bombs, and the Iranian fighter jets. With those anti-aircraft missiles in Rebels’ hands, Russia will start to suffer catastrophic losses.


Now, on the other hand, in the slim chance Putin “wins,” how exactly does Putin still lose? You have to think backwards from what a Putin end-game “victory” would likely look like. On the current trajectory, if Putin “wins,” he will have to have bulked up his ground forces and airbase footprint so as to be principally occupying Syria. Then what? Whom is Putin going to hand Syria off to after he wins? Are Russian-Orthodox soldiers going to occupy Syria forever? No. The only entity Putin can hand Syria off to is Iran. So, for all Putin’s losses and future costs in terms of Russian lives and money, Russia will not have “won” Syria, Iran will own Syria at Putin’s cost.


You can think of Putin’s egregious behavior as the inverse image of Bush’s actions in tearing the Sunni-centric hierarchical government out of Iraq. Bush destroyed the Sunni power structure in Iraq which ultimately empowered Iran to control Iraq. Putin is saving the Shiite power structure in Syria to ultimately empower Iran to control Syria. Any way you look at it, Putin comes out of Syria with a terrible, perhaps fatal loss to Russia, and a waxing-hegemonic Iran. Putin’s Syrian strategy has also incurred the enmity of 800,000,000 Sunnis so as to strengthen the Shiite Islamists who will then pose an existential threat to Russia. Instead of learning from Bush’s mistake, Putin appears intent on repeating it.


It gets worse. The greatest lie Putin has propagated to himself is that “Assad and Iran are not “Islamist extremist Jihadis.” Hezbollah, and Iran, the underpinnings of Assad’s existence, are not Islamist Jihadis? Hezbollah and Iran are the two greatest Islamist Jihadi-states in the world. The two terrorist States of Hezbollah and Iran have more American and world blood on their hands than anyone else in the world including ISIS. Putin is fighting small-time terrorists, so he can empower big-time terrorists. That’s not “playing chess,” that’s playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.


In conclusion, Putin hasn’t checkmated anyone but himself and Russia with his genocidal killing spree of Sunni civilians in Syria. Instead, he has insured another Afghanistan. For, where USSR’s Afghanistan debacle brought about the dismemberment of the Soviet Union, Putin’s Syria debacle will bring the liquidation of Russia.

Sounds like quite a Quagmire. . Quite a difference from the RT Propaganda pieces.

 

[Ricboff]

Posting this for everyone's consideration. I agree with some of it but not all of it. We'll see.....
December 8, 2015

Langfan: Putin has checkmated himself into a lose-lose Syrian debacle

There is no way Putin can come out a winner in the situation he has created for himself.

By Mark Langfan, INN

When Putin first teamed up with Iran and Assad, the two greatest state sponsors of terror in the world, to commit unabashed genocide against the Sunnis of Syria, there was breathless talk that “Putin Checkmated Obama.” It was as if Putin was playing against Obama. Then, after Turkey shot down Putin’s Mig and the Saudis openly declared that they would continue arming their Syrian proxies, the Syrian ground war got even uglier. For all Putin’s bluster, the very ugly reality of Syria has begun to set in.


Putin has never been fighting Obama; he’s been fighting and will have to come to fight hundreds of millions of Sunni Muslims who are coming to see Putin and Russia as the ultimate evil. What’s worse, whether Putin loses, or Putin “wins,” Putin will ultimately lose, lose big, and lose everything.

Let’s look at Putin’s problem objectively. On the one hand, if Putin “loses,” it will be clear he will have militarily lost, and it will be a truly ugly military loss like Afghanistan. If Afghanistan brought down the great and mighty USSR, Syria will bring down little Putin. For, despite Russia’s virtually infinite raids on the Syrian rebels with no limiting rules of engagement, Russian-Iran ground progress has been, at best, severely challenged.

Additionally, with Iran’s soon-in-coming introduction of its own fighter jet squadrons into the Syrian theater to genocidally massacre even more Sunnis, the Saudis and Turks will be forced to deliver shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles to take down the Assad barrel-bombs, and the Iranian fighter jets. With those anti-aircraft missiles in Rebels’ hands, Russia will start to suffer catastrophic losses.


Now, on the other hand, in the slim chance Putin “wins,” how exactly does Putin still lose? You have to think backwards from what a Putin end-game “victory” would likely look like. On the current trajectory, if Putin “wins,” he will have to have bulked up his ground forces and airbase footprint so as to be principally occupying Syria. Then what? Whom is Putin going to hand Syria off to after he wins? Are Russian-Orthodox soldiers going to occupy Syria forever? No. The only entity Putin can hand Syria off to is Iran. So, for all Putin’s losses and future costs in terms of Russian lives and money, Russia will not have “won” Syria, Iran will own Syria at Putin’s cost.


You can think of Putin’s egregious behavior as the inverse image of Bush’s actions in tearing the Sunni-centric hierarchical government out of Iraq. Bush destroyed the Sunni power structure in Iraq which ultimately empowered Iran to control Iraq. Putin is saving the Shiite power structure in Syria to ultimately empower Iran to control Syria. Any way you look at it, Putin comes out of Syria with a terrible, perhaps fatal loss to Russia, and a waxing-hegemonic Iran. Putin’s Syrian strategy has also incurred the enmity of 800,000,000 Sunnis so as to strengthen the Shiite Islamists who will then pose an existential threat to Russia. Instead of learning from Bush’s mistake, Putin appears intent on repeating it.


It gets worse. The greatest lie Putin has propagated to himself is that “Assad and Iran are not “Islamist extremist Jihadis.” Hezbollah, and Iran, the underpinnings of Assad’s existence, are not Islamist Jihadis? Hezbollah and Iran are the two greatest Islamist Jihadi-states in the world. The two terrorist States of Hezbollah and Iran have more American and world blood on their hands than anyone else in the world including ISIS. Putin is fighting small-time terrorists, so he can empower big-time terrorists. That’s not “playing chess,” that’s playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.


In conclusion, Putin hasn’t checkmated anyone but himself and Russia with his genocidal killing spree of Sunni civilians in Syria. Instead, he has insured another Afghanistan. For, where USSR’s Afghanistan debacle brought about the dismemberment of the Soviet Union, Putin’s Syria debacle will bring the liquidation of Russia.

um, i think the author grossly underestimates Putin. He'll NUKE the region if they are dumb enough to try shit on Russian soil.




imo.........

 

[Ricboff]

'In conclusion, Putin hasn’t checkmated anyone but himself and Russia with his genocidal killing spree of Sunni civilians in Syria. Instead, he has insured another Afghanistan. For, where USSR’s Afghanistan debacle brought about the dismemberment of the Soviet Union, Putin’s Syria debacle will bring the liquidation of Russia.'








Only OIL prices can do such......and given they keep falling..well............Mr Putin may need to have Jinping on speed dial

 

[superbeets]

Posting this for everyone's consideration. I agree with some of it but not all of it. We'll see.....
December 8, 2015

Langfan: Putin has checkmated himself into a lose-lose Syrian debacle

There is no way Putin can come out a winner in the situation he has created for himself.

By Mark Langfan, INN

When Putin first teamed up with Iran and Assad, the two greatest state sponsors of terror in the world, to commit unabashed genocide against the Sunnis of Syria, there was breathless talk that “Putin Checkmated Obama.” It was as if Putin was playing against Obama. Then, after Turkey shot down Putin’s Mig and the Saudis openly declared that they would continue arming their Syrian proxies, the Syrian ground war got even uglier. For all Putin’s bluster, the very ugly reality of Syria has begun to set in.


Putin has never been fighting Obama; he’s been fighting and will have to come to fight hundreds of millions of Sunni Muslims who are coming to see Putin and Russia as the ultimate evil. What’s worse, whether Putin loses, or Putin “wins,” Putin will ultimately lose, lose big, and lose everything.

Let’s look at Putin’s problem objectively. On the one hand, if Putin “loses,” it will be clear he will have militarily lost, and it will be a truly ugly military loss like Afghanistan. If Afghanistan brought down the great and mighty USSR, Syria will bring down little Putin. For, despite Russia’s virtually infinite raids on the Syrian rebels with no limiting rules of engagement, Russian-Iran ground progress has been, at best, severely challenged.

Additionally, with Iran’s soon-in-coming introduction of its own fighter jet squadrons into the Syrian theater to genocidally massacre even more Sunnis, the Saudis and Turks will be forced to deliver shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles to take down the Assad barrel-bombs, and the Iranian fighter jets. With those anti-aircraft missiles in Rebels’ hands, Russia will start to suffer catastrophic losses.


Now, on the other hand, in the slim chance Putin “wins,” how exactly does Putin still lose? You have to think backwards from what a Putin end-game “victory” would likely look like. On the current trajectory, if Putin “wins,” he will have to have bulked up his ground forces and airbase footprint so as to be principally occupying Syria. Then what? Whom is Putin going to hand Syria off to after he wins? Are Russian-Orthodox soldiers going to occupy Syria forever? No. The only entity Putin can hand Syria off to is Iran. So, for all Putin’s losses and future costs in terms of Russian lives and money, Russia will not have “won” Syria, Iran will own Syria at Putin’s cost.


You can think of Putin’s egregious behavior as the inverse image of Bush’s actions in tearing the Sunni-centric hierarchical government out of Iraq. Bush destroyed the Sunni power structure in Iraq which ultimately empowered Iran to control Iraq. Putin is saving the Shiite power structure in Syria to ultimately empower Iran to control Syria. Any way you look at it, Putin comes out of Syria with a terrible, perhaps fatal loss to Russia, and a waxing-hegemonic Iran. Putin’s Syrian strategy has also incurred the enmity of 800,000,000 Sunnis so as to strengthen the Shiite Islamists who will then pose an existential threat to Russia. Instead of learning from Bush’s mistake, Putin appears intent on repeating it.


It gets worse. The greatest lie Putin has propagated to himself is that “Assad and Iran are not “Islamist extremist Jihadis.” Hezbollah, and Iran, the underpinnings of Assad’s existence, are not Islamist Jihadis? Hezbollah and Iran are the two greatest Islamist Jihadi-states in the world. The two terrorist States of Hezbollah and Iran have more American and world blood on their hands than anyone else in the world including ISIS. Putin is fighting small-time terrorists, so he can empower big-time terrorists. That’s not “playing chess,” that’s playing Russian Roulette with a fully loaded revolver.


In conclusion, Putin hasn’t checkmated anyone but himself and Russia with his genocidal killing spree of Sunni civilians in Syria. Instead, he has insured another Afghanistan. For, where USSR’s Afghanistan debacle brought about the dismemberment of the Soviet Union, Putin’s Syria debacle will bring the liquidation of Russia.

That is as likely as gall stone ileus.


This is a different Russia to the one that invaded Afghanistan. Comparing the 2 is like chalk and cheese. That was a dying letahargic Russia, a Russia with a ancient decaying military machine.

The new Russia is a vibrant determined, mean, militarily refined machine, with determination and resolve.

Do not underestimate the Russian Bear.

 

[ScottL]

Have you been studying pre-clinical biology SB? Pre-med? I've noticed multiple medical references in your missives lately. If so you won't have as much time to worry about geopolitics in the near future. Or to post. Or sleep for that matter.

 

[superbeets]

Have you been studying pre-clinical biology SB? Pre-med? I've noticed multiple medical references in your missives lately. If so you won't have as much time to worry about geopolitics in the near future. Or to post. Or sleep for that matter.

ha ha
Still time to thwart the Guesser.

 

[The Guesser]

ha ha
Still time to thwart the Guesser.

You can't thwart the truth. Especially with RT Russian Propaganda pieces.

 

[Ricboff]

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That is as likely as gall stone ileus.


This is a different Russia to the one that invaded Afghanistan. Comparing the 2 is like chalk and cheese. That was a dying letahargic Russia, a Russia with a ancient decaying military machine.

The new Russia is a vibrant determined, mean, militarily refined machine, with determination and resolve.

Do not underestimate the Russian Bear.

 

[ScottL]

• Egyptian Planes Using Israeli Airspace - Yoav Zitun
  Egyptian Air Force planes have in recent months crossed into Israeli airspace with Israel's permission as part of Egypt's campaign against Islamic State in Sinai, Ynet learned on Tuesday. Egyptian aircraft have bombed IS targets in the vicinity of El Arish and Sheikh Zuweid in northern Sinai. The IDF is devoting more resources to intelligence gathering on the Egyptian border because of threats by IS, while the Israel Security Agency has established a special department for gathering intelligence in Sinai. (Ynet News)

 

[ScottL]

Israel should have done Assad and then destroyed ISIS. And would be happy to do so accept the Arab Muslim hyenas in every country, including Europe would have to be machine-gunned by their government's forces before setting their cities on fire. That's why Israel stays out of it.

 

[ScottL]

Meanwhile, Putin says "no outside forces" (AKA the US) should determine who will lead Syria (except for me of course)!

On Assad: No external forces anywhere should have the right to impose the leader of any country on it's people #Putinpresser #PutinQA

 

[superbeets]

IDF, Mossad,Shin Bet. Are simply the best.

 

[superbeets]

December 17, 2015. Journalists before the annual news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the World Trade Center on Krasnaya Presnya. © Michael Klimentyev / Sputnik

December 17, 2015. Journalists before the annual news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the World Trade Center on Krasnaya Presnya. © Michael Klimentyev / Sputnik



"The Turks", he said, had "decided to lick the Americans in a certain place".

 

[ScottL]

The Price of Unjustifiable Murder - Jonathan S. Tobin (Commentary)

• The Palestinians should understand that if they continue to practice indiscriminate terror, they may ultimately pay a price, even if mass murder is something their leaders tell them is not only justifiable but think is a smart tactic.
  
• In the last few months PA leader Mahmoud Abbas has fomented a new surge of violence with lies about mythical Israeli plots against the Temple Mount mosques. Then he has treated those Palestinians that attempt to murder random Jews as "martyrs" or victims of Jewish persecution and part of a "popular peaceful uprising."
• Though the Obama administration hasn't specifically condemned Abbas' incitement, as they should, they've grown tired of justifying him.
• Abbas may believe, as Arafat did, that more violence only generates greater interest in the Palestinian cause. But support for a terrorism double standard that exempts Palestinians from the consequences of their actions is not inexhaustible.
• With the world distracted from the myth of the centrality of the Palestinians by ISIS and the wars in Syria and Iraq, the Palestinians are on the verge of rendering themselves completely irrelevant. The Palestinians are watching their opportunity for peace and statehood dissolve in the gore of a stabbing intifada that is disabusing even their most ardent apologists.
• It is impossible to imagine anyone caring much about a national movement that cannot even pretend to distance itself from random slaughter.
• Full Article .... https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...east/palestinians-price-unjustifiable-murder/

 

[superbeets]

The Price of Unjustifiable Murder - Jonathan S. Tobin (Commentary)

• The Palestinians should understand that if they continue to practice indiscriminate terror, they may ultimately pay a price, even if mass murder is something their leaders tell them is not only justifiable but think is a smart tactic.
  
• In the last few months PA leader Mahmoud Abbas has fomented a new surge of violence with lies about mythical Israeli plots against the Temple Mount mosques. Then he has treated those Palestinians that attempt to murder random Jews as "martyrs" or victims of Jewish persecution and part of a "popular peaceful uprising."
• Though the Obama administration hasn't specifically condemned Abbas' incitement, as they should, they've grown tired of justifying him.
• Abbas may believe, as Arafat did, that more violence only generates greater interest in the Palestinian cause. But support for a terrorism double standard that exempts Palestinians from the consequences of their actions is not inexhaustible.
• With the world distracted from the myth of the centrality of the Palestinians by ISIS and the wars in Syria and Iraq, the Palestinians are on the verge of rendering themselves completely irrelevant. The Palestinians are watching their opportunity for peace and statehood dissolve in the gore of a stabbing intifada that is disabusing even their most ardent apologists.
• It is impossible to imagine anyone caring much about a national movement that cannot even pretend to distance itself from random slaughter.
• Full Article .... https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...east/palestinians-price-unjustifiable-murder/

They are not lone wolf stabbings or car hit and run, they are Organised. They are not totally random, but drip, drip drip.

The PA incites and encourages them.

The Northern Islamic movement, now banned, plays a role in incitement.

The mistake Israel made was to assume like liberal Americans that Israeli Arabs would assimilate.

Solutions

Increase the wall building.

Increase settlement building.

Continue to encourage Aliyah. Increasing Israel population strengthens Israel.

Never give up any land, all land given up is taken over by terrorists.

Never never return to 67 borders.

 

[superbeets]

December 17, 2015. Journalists before the annual news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the World Trade Center on Krasnaya Presnya. © Michael Klimentyev / Sputnik

December 17, 2015. Journalists before the annual news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the World Trade Center on Krasnaya Presnya. © Michael Klimentyev / Sputnik



"The Turks", he said, had "decided to lick the Americans in a certain place".

He said he saw "no prospect" of ties improving with Turkey - which Russia has put under sanctions - under its current leaders.
There was, he said, a "creeping Islamisation of Turkey that would have Ataturk rolling in his grave".
The remark appeared to be aimed at President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, whose AKP party, with its Islamist roots, has been accused of seeking to dismantle the secular state founded by Kemal Ataturk.

 

[ScottL]

Hamas and the Islamic State: Growing Cooperation in Sinai - Ehud Yaari
Hamas has been increasing its clandestine military cooperation with the Islamic State's "Sinai Province," culminating in a prolonged secret visit to Gaza this month by IS Sinai's military chief Shadi al-Menai. Menai has been at the top of Egypt's most-wanted list. Over the past two years, IS Sinai has helped Hamas move weapons from Iran and Libya through the peninsula, taking a generous cut from each shipment.
In Sinai, a thousand heavily armed Bedouins affiliated with IS still pose a serious threat to Egyptian troops and government offices. Egypt's General Intelligence Directorate officials are convinced that Hamas is engaged in a sustained effort to undermine government control over the Sinai, even as it publicly seeks a rapprochement with Cairo. Hamas cooperation with IS Sinai also opens the door to IS gaining more ground among the Palestinians. The writer is an international fellow with The Washington Institute and a Middle East commentator for Israel's Channel Two television. (Washington Institute for Near East Policy)

 

[ScottL]

They are not lone wolf stabbings or car hit and run, they are Organised. They are not totally random, but drip, drip drip.

The PA incites and encourages them.

The Northern Islamic movement, now banned, plays a role in incitement.

The mistake Israel made was to assume like liberal Americans that Israeli Arabs would assimilate.

Solutions

Increase the wall building.

Increase settlement building.

Continue to encourage Aliyah. Increasing Israel population strengthens Israel.

Never give up any land, all land given up is taken over by terrorists.

Never never return to 67 borders.

 

[superbeets]

Hamas and the Islamic State: Growing Cooperation in Sinai - Ehud Yaari
Hamas has been increasing its clandestine military cooperation with the Islamic State's "Sinai Province," culminating in a prolonged secret visit to Gaza this month by IS Sinai's military chief Shadi al-Menai. Menai has been at the top of Egypt's most-wanted list. Over the past two years, IS Sinai has helped Hamas move weapons from Iran and Libya through the peninsula, taking a generous cut from each shipment.
In Sinai, a thousand heavily armed Bedouins affiliated with IS still pose a serious threat to Egyptian troops and government offices. Egypt's General Intelligence Directorate officials are convinced that Hamas is engaged in a sustained effort to undermine government control over the Sinai, even as it publicly seeks a rapprochement with Cairo. Hamas cooperation with IS Sinai also opens the door to IS gaining more ground among the Palestinians. The writer is an international fellow with The Washington Institute and a Middle East commentator for Israel's Channel Two television. (Washington Institute for Near East Policy)

ISIS will , unless eradicated (very unlikely on Obama's watch) will take control in Gaza.

 

[ScottL]

It's crazy that Israel just sits and waits for Hamas or Hezb or Iran to restart the war.

• The Hamas "Legacy" - Dr. Limor Samimian-Darash
  Hamas released another propaganda video this week in honor of its anniversary: Footage of weapons, combat units, terrorist attacks, rockets being launched and the killing and kidnapping of IDF soldiers. This show of force and hatred is more proof of the reality with which Israel deals. Hamas is not a terrorist organization that, once in a while, carries out attacks in the West. Rather it is one that shares a border with us and carries out attacks against us over and over again.
  Hamas declared that it has carried out more than 80 suicide attacks against Israel and fired more than 15,000 rockets its way. All of this with the explicit intent to murder as many Israeli civilians as possible. Yet there is no international coalition calling to eradicate Hamas.
  When countries around the world call for the Palestinians to be freed from the occupation, we must remind them that the only occupation Gazans are under is that of the Hamas terrorists that they voted into power. The writer is assistant professor at the School of Public Policy and Government at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. (Israel Hayom)