Name a Liberal policy that has worked.

[tiznow]

civil rights in the early days okay

but for the most part

many of the current day civil rights movement as well as the liberalism in economics and stuff

keeps people down, makes people feel like they are entitled to something vs. working for itv, the white man is holding me down mentality etc....the al sharptons, jesse jacksons are total fucking tools that do their race a big diservice while they line their own pockets

it creates divide amongst the various races, ethnicities, etc... rather than everybody being treated as equals as the is the supposed intention of the civil rights pushers

 

[tiznow]

labor safety, child stuff i can agree with now that we've become industrialized and such.....although the laws overpush the boundries of where they should be IMO

tiz not complete anarchist

seat belts yeah its good to have one in every car but ticketing people over it is retarded...

people will choose if they want to use it or not....

hell my uncle wasn't wearing his seatbelt when he was in a car that jumped over an overpass when he was in high school

flew outta the car into a ditch...had seatbelt been on and he stayed in the car he wouldn't be alive today

sometimes you just never know.....the world in the end is full of chaos and anarchy as much as the liberals try to fight it...government will never be able to keep us 100% safe

and the more they add laws and take away more freedom....if we continue on the path we are going....the less safe we will be.....

freedom, free market capitalism etc...will always be the safest form of government/economy for the overall populace of people in general

very hard headed government, full of tons of laws, fascist, socialistic, communistic government will lead to a very unsafe situation for the overall populace of people

 

[TheRightSide]

HMMMM calling all liberals calling al liberals. Where are all the good policies at.




Where oh where are you guys at.



Good job Tiz. Why liberals think the gov can do anything right is beyoud me. It has been proven over and over yet they continue in thier dream world.

 

[punter]

There were a lot of good programs stated including the bill of right but you refuse to accept any of them.

Just for the hell of it how many successful conservative programs can you think of since the start of the industrial revolution?

 

[tiznow]

true conservatives (the conservatives today are liberals for most part) don't want to make programs that's the point they want to leave people and businesses alone and let the free markets roll

so they can create great things like cars, planes, trains, telephones, computers, cell phones, you get the point which makes the world a more fun place to live for everybody and increases the standard of living not just in the US but worldwide

government just gets in the way of all of this with ridiculous over the top laws, heavy taxation, and all the other nonsense

 

[Mistermj]

There were a lot of good programs stated including the bill of right but you refuse to accept any of them.

Just for the hell of it how many successful conservative programs can you think of since the start of the industrial revolution?

The industrial revolution.

 

[punter]

true conservatives (the conservatives today are liberals for most part) don't want to make programs that's the point

they want the free markets to create great things like cars, planes, trains, telephones, computers, cell phones, you get the point which makes the world a more fun place to live for everybody and increases the standard of living not just in the US but worldwide

They dont? How about "the war on drugs" all of them trying to get abortion outlawed?

 

[tiznow]

that's why i said true conservatives with the disclaimer most conservatives are liberals today

tiz don't want any of that at the federal level

:toast:

local level let people in their local communities and government decide those tough issues...

federal government never gonna have blanket one size fits all polices that will work for any tough social issue....that's obvious.....we are a very diverse group of people regionally....

 

[JackARoot]

The G.I. bill after World War 2, in hindsight it generated 7 dollars in tax revenue for every dollar spent. We should be doing the same for the soldiers coming back from the middle east but we don't.

 

[punter]

Hmm, local option drugs? Or you gotta go across the street to get your abortion.

Actually all this talk of making abortion a local issue is just a way to get past the law and ban it. They know they dont have the votes to pass an amendment so they want it moved to states rights.

 

[punter]

The G.I. bill after World War 2, in hindsight it generated 7 dollars in tax revenue for every dollar spent. We should be doing the same for the soldiers coming back from the middle east but we don't.

It was a good program I used it but we made like $86 a month. Have you seen what they make in the all volunteer army?

 

[TheRightSide]

The G.I. bill after World War 2, in hindsight it generated 7 dollars in tax revenue for every dollar spent. We should be doing the same for the soldiers coming back from the middle east but we don't.

LOL How is this liberal policy. This is part of the employment contract they signed up or.

I am saying is....
Everytime the liberals say they are going to "save us" all they do is fuck things up worse. This bill is a perfect example.

The gov needs to stay out of the way. Like with the housing and those stupid morgages.

Barney Frank wanted them to make loans "easier" for low income people. Look how that has worked out. Plan stupid and they keep on comming with more idiotic ideas.

Just get the fuck out of the way and Americans can and will figure out a way to make things happen.


Still have not seen any good ones yet. I'll stay tuned though.

 

[tiznow]

Hmm, local option drugs? Or you gotta go across the street to get your abortion.

Actually all this talk of making abortion a local issue is just a way to get past the law and ban it. They know they dont have the votes to pass an amendment so they want it moved to states rights.

yeah abortion will just always be a fucked up thing

i honestly really don't know the solution

if you ban it people will be going to underground clinics in unsanitary conditions and such you'll never stop it in addition more of the late term abortion type stuff will likely happen underground like that thing zit posted earlier today

the problem with abortion is just the moral breakdown of society at large that has been socially engineered into us via the liberals

humans weren't programmed from birth to sleep around with tons of women and fuck just for the hell of it cause you like it vs. to make babies and keep the species going...alot of that has been beaten us by the MSM etc...cause sex sells and pays the bills of many companies big time....

therefore more people having sex outta wedlock or before they can take care of a kid so they have more unplanned pregnancies regardless of increased use of contraception etc....

abortion in the past wasn't a huge issue because well people had sex less liberally and wanted to raise families etc...

the same goes for drugs as well

drug abuse a problem due to social engineering and society at large.....doesn't have much to do with what government does or doesn't do.....

 

[TheRightSide]

It was a good program I used it but we made like $86 a month. Have you seen what they make in the all volunteer army?

LOL This is the typical liberal. Now you complain about how much people make. Now you are bitter. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Listen if we didn't have all these useless programs and taxes to pay.

All Obama would have to do is get on TV and say we are raising your taxes .02% and every dollar from this tax will go to the military men and women and families. Nother more just to fund schooling and healthcare for the military. That would pass with about 80% aproval no problem. But as we all know they never just have a bill that simple.

 

[punter]

What useless programs?

I'm not crying but these guys are making enough that some of the benefits could be done away with.

Well, maybe I crying just a bit. I feel that every American should serve their country for at least 2 years. That would change some of the warmongers attitudes.

 

[TheRightSide]

What useless programs?

I'm not crying but these guys are making enough that some of the benefits could be done away with.

Well, maybe I crying just a bit. I feel that every American should serve their country for at least 2 years. That would change some of the warmongers attitudes.

WOW whatever happen of freedom to choose. You are ok with women killing babies yet you think people should have to serve in the militray. Do you read what you post before you hit the send bullon. You come across as stupid at best.

Nothing wrong with killing the enemy. You libs just never seem to understand that. Hell I wish we would kill more of them.


All liberal programs are useless programs that just create more government. All they care about is having people depend on the government for jobs. The more ploicies the more they control the people. LOL You will never understand. You will never change your mind. You would have to admit that you have been fooled for your whole life.

 

[punter]

Hey! I served my country in time of war. Fucked up unnecessary war though it was.

I have seen your warmongering post where you do your Nathan Hale imitation "I regret that I have but one nephew to give for my country".

 

[TheRightSide]

And I thankyou for your service. Just not sure how that shaped you to be a liberal. You of all people should know how government works and that should make you want them to be less and not more.

How did you end up being a liberal? How is it possible you came to the conclusion that the government knows what is best for you? How did that happen?

 

[punter]

During the Clinton administration, my e-mail was bombarded with republican lies and half truths. I thought he was doing a great job. Far better than Bush had done.

Then came the Lewinsky incident and all the self righteous republicans. That got me to leaning then what happend when Dubya got elected pushed me over the edge. At this point in time I have a very low opinion of republicans and heartless conservatives.

 

[punter]

During the Clinton administration, my e-mail was bombarded with republican lies and half truths. I thought he was doing a great job. Far better than Bush had done.

Then came the Lewinsky incident and all the self righteous republicans. That got me to leaning then what happend when Dubya got elected pushed me over the edge. At this point in time I have a very low opinion of republicans and heartless conservatives.