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I know this isnt a service play you can take it down if you have to but, scanning the Fox Sheets I found this which is very significant

Belichick is 26-0 against the money line (+33.9 Units) after covering the spread in 6 or 7 out of their last 8 games as the coach of NEW ENGLAND.
The average score was NEW ENGLAND 27.2, OPPONENT 15.7 - (Rating = 8*)
 

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Heard Boo boo BuDiN got a 50* tomarrow?
is it true? cuz i cant look @ sportsadvisor with my cell...@)
 

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I know this isnt a service play you can take it down if you have to but, scanning the Fox Sheets I found this which is very significant

Belichick is 26-0 against the money line (+33.9 Units) after covering the spread in 6 or 7 out of their last 8 games as the coach of NEW ENGLAND.
The average score was NEW ENGLAND 27.2, OPPONENT 15.7 - (Rating = 8*)

It amazes me how people think trends are good betting information. This trend is only useful if you were on it all 26 times. Today is today, These were different teams, different weather implications,etc..
 

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yes. he will probably come up with 75* or 100* if he loses that.
 

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It amazes me how people think trends are good betting information. This trend is only useful if you were on it all 26 times. Today is today, These were different teams, different weather implications,etc..

you put my thoughts into words.
 

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the doctors 5-1-1

hopefully we get some of their picks tomorrow. Most of these other touts are killing me this month

dr guru
12* car/nj under 41 win
12* pit/bal under 35 loss

big daddy
20* jax/sf under 41.5 win

bond
12* nj/lal over 193 push

coglye west
12* phx/ana under 5.5 win
10* nj/van over 5.5 win


vip
washington +9.5 win

Go ahead and pick them up !:103631605
 

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I know this isnt a service play you can take it down if you have to but, scanning the Fox Sheets I found this which is very significant

Belichick is 26-0 against the money line (+33.9 Units) after covering the spread in 6 or 7 out of their last 8 games as the coach of NEW ENGLAND.
The average score was NEW ENGLAND 27.2, OPPONENT 15.7 - (Rating = 8*)

How many of those 26 games do you think New England was a underdog? Probable 0
 

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anyone have SyndicateSports . net mnf play? their sunday pick was posted on another site and did well.
 

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I know this isnt a service play you can take it down if you have to but, scanning the Fox Sheets I found this which is very significant

Belichick is 26-0 against the money line (+33.9 Units) after covering the spread in 6 or 7 out of their last 8 games as the coach of NEW ENGLAND.
The average score was NEW ENGLAND 27.2, OPPONENT 15.7 - (Rating = 8*)
What's even more amazing is that this trend doesn't even apply tonight. New England is 5-2-1 their last 8....not 6 or 7 covers. And if they really were 26-0 vs. the money line, it wouldn't be +33.9 units, I can't imagine they would have been dogs in very many of those, if any, so +26 or +27 units, provided you laid the -500 to -1200 ALL 26 times. Useless trend.
 

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sry for the double post mods, it timed out the first time!
 

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MONDAY'S PICK
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50 DIME RELEASE

New Orleans Saints

This line can be found between 1 or 2.5 depending on where you shop as I release this selection at 9:00 P.M. Eastern on Sunday evening. If you have either price - or even if you get stuck with 3 1/2 - I want you to buy down the 1/2 point for insurance no matter the case.

Paid & Confirmed.
GL!



thanks royal
 

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It's ridiculous that any service is posting New England +3 as that line hasn't been widely available (or available AT ALL) since Wednesday/Thursday at the very very latest. Most shops cut this line to 1/1' by Thanksgiving. Total bullshit that a service would post +3 and take credit if the Saints win by 2.

Best line I've seen right now has the Pats at +1.5
 

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Al DeMarco Monday's Play 30 Dime - New Orleans

Two weeks ago in my weekly TV show and various radio interviews, I was all over New England at Indianapolis, telling everyone to grab the points with the Patriots and even suggesting a smaller moneyline wager because I believed they were going to win the game outright. A cover they got, but you know how the final score went thanks to Bill Belichick's fourth-down gamble. Lost among the controversy over that call was the fact the Pats could not stop Indy's offense after opening up a big double-digit lead in the first half. Peyton Manning kept firing, marching the Colts up and down the field, putting them in the position to win the game if they got the ball back one more time, and Belichick's gamble presented them with that golden opportunity.

Both the Colts and Saints were undefeated and playing at home when the Patriots came calling. The difference between the two clubs? Indianapolis can't run the ball a lick; New Orleans entered the weekend with the league's No. 5 rushing attack as Pierre Thomas, Mike Bell and Reggie Bush have spearheaded a unit that's averaged 154.3 yards per game (4.8 ypc). That triumvirate tackles a New England defense that allows opposing ball carriers to average 4.4 yards per carry. Last week at home the Jets' Thomas Jones ran for 103 yards on 21 carries despite his team falling behind by 3 TDs early so this is not a stop unit that can be counted on.

The Patriots have more problems defensively that just stopping the run; their pass rush has generated just 18 sacks on the season. You don't beat Drew Brees, who has one of the quickest - if not the quickest - release in pro football, unless you pressure him continuously. Just ask Philadelphia's blitzers. Or those of the Giants. And with a strong ground game to rely on for the first time in his tenure in New Orleans, it's no wonder Brees is helming an offense averaging 36.9 points and 420.5 yards per game.

Where the Saints have been particularly dangerous this year is in the second half of games where they've outscored their foes 188-78. That margin swells to 105-24 in the fourth quarter. Both stats are troublesome for a New England defense that couldn't withstand the second-half comebacks of the Colts and Broncos, two previous undefeated teams they lost to on the road this season. And the Patriots often seem to have a patchwork defense held together by bailing wire and aging veterans like Junior Seau.

With the focus on Brees and the Saints' prolific scoring attack, their defense often gets overlooked, but on that side of the ball they entered the weekend leading the league with 29 takeaways, including 20 interceptions. Darren Sharper has rejuvenated the secondary and that takeaway figure is stunning considering the team had just 22 for all of last season.

Put aside the Belichick mystique against undefeated teams for a moment; he's 0-3 SU in those match-ups this season, losing to the Jets, Broncos and Colts, all on the road. I'm telling you to put that aside, but I know the public isn't and they're also buying into the "don't bet against the Patriots as an underdog" shtick, too. That's why the price of this game has dropped steadily all week long. But public perception is often wrong, especially on Monday nights, and tonight will be no exception as the Saints expose New England's defensive flaws while proving to the NFL - and the viewing public - they are for real, breaking open a tight game after intermission before posting a solid 35-24 win.


Strategy Note:

The price of this game ranges from 1 to 3 depending on where you play it. That's a huge margin, but that's why you've got to shop around before placing your wager. Here's the deal: I would buy down the 1/2 point if you've got a line of 1 1/2, 2, 2 1/2, 3 or even 3 1/2. Now there is absolutely no reason you should be stuck with the Saints at 3 or 3 1/2, but who knows if your local guy is any good? In Vegas right now, as of late Sunday night, New Orleans is -1 at the Hilton and Mirage. Yet I can walk down the strip and find them at -2 1/2 as well. And offshore, I see one place - and you know the place that always inflates the price on favorites - that they're shockingly -3. So, again, buy down the 1/2 point between 1 1/2 and 3 1/2 points. Always better to be safe than sorry.
 

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It's ridiculous that any service is posting New England +3 as that line hasn't been widely available (or available AT ALL) since Wednesday/Thursday at the very very latest. Most shops cut this line to 1/1' by Thanksgiving. Total bullshit that a service would post +3 and take credit if the Saints win by 2.

Best line I've seen right now has the Pats at +1.5

from Scores and Odds....depends on when the service released the play!

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</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 8:35 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 -04</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 8:36 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 EVEN</td><td>
</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 8:40 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +02</td><td>
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</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:04 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +04</td><td>
</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:08 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +02</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:11 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +04</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:31 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5o12</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:32 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 9:35 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5o12</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 11:34 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +06</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 11:38 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +04</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/22/2009 11:40 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +06</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 7:17 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 7:18 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5o12</td><td>
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</td><td>55.5</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 7:23 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>55.5o12</td><td>
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</td><td>55.5</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 10:55 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 EVEN</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 4:34 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>56</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 5:59 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+125</td><td>-137</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 6:01 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 6:02 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>off</td><td>off</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 6:03 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 6:07 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+125</td><td>-137</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 6:08 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 7:59 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+131</td><td>-143</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 8:02 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 8:03 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+131</td><td>-143</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 9:39 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+134</td><td>-146</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 9:42 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+131</td><td>-143</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/23/2009 9:43 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+134</td><td>-146</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 12:30 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+135</td><td>-150</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 12:33 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+134</td><td>-146</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 12:34 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+135</td><td>-150</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 11:26 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
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</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 11:28 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+135</td><td>-150</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 11:29 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 11:33 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+135</td><td>-150</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 11:34 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 8:01 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+126</td><td>-138</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 8:03 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 8:04 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+126</td><td>-138</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 8:07 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+128</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/24/2009 8:08 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+126</td><td>-138</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 10:51 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>56.5</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 11:10 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+125</td><td>-145</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 4:01 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -3 +15</td><td>
</td><td>+120</td><td>-140</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 4:04 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -2 </td><td>
</td><td>+115</td><td>-135</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 4:17 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">
</td><td>
</td><td>+110</td><td>-130</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/25/2009 5:10 PM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -1.5 </td><td>
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</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="odd"><td class="lm_time">11/27/2009 12:10 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -1.5 -05</td><td>
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</td></tr><tr class="even"><td class="lm_time">11/28/2009 12:04 AM EST</td><td nowrap="nowrap">NEW ORLEANS SAINTS -1.5 </td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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It's ridiculous that any service is posting New England +3 as that line hasn't been widely available (or available AT ALL) since Wednesday/Thursday at the very very latest. Most shops cut this line to 1/1' by Thanksgiving. Total bullshit that a service would post +3 and take credit if the Saints win by 2.

Best line I've seen right now has the Pats at +1.5
it was 3 when ACE made the play.

i'm on NO (now), so i took ML (-125). no reason (IMO) to worry about losing or pushing on a one point game.
 

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