Monday 10/26/09 service plays chatter/comps/requests & gm strategy...

Can'tPickaWinner2 · Oct 26, 2009

Monday 10/26/09 service plays chatter/comps/requests & gm strategy...

icethekicker · Oct 26, 2009

Here is what we need to do

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Which leads me to my next point, some cappers are better at one sport, college, or pros. And after 2 months of flowing tons of cappers I have a pretty good idea but would love feed back and input.
The main problem I have is that some cappers picks have been available consistently and others have been very sporadic. In addition what is really annoying are all the random cappers that get posted. I mean its ridiculous!!! I will see picks from a capper one week and maybe never see them again or see them a month down the road. Like Charlie who lit it up for the first few weeks and then kind of crashed and was never to be seen on the forum again. And I know they way in on the decisions of what some people take even though they are a completely random capper.
So I guess the point I am trying to make is. Instead of going out and buying random cappers picks. Stop being sold on these guys or being afraid you are going to miss the hot streak of a capper. Lets just focus out cash and invest into proven winners and from there we can all make our own consensus picks and win!
I hope this makes sense?!?! The following is a list of the cappers that I feel are worthy and also the ones you don’t need to bother wasting your time with. The stats do not include this weekend!!! Some I feel I have gotten a majority if not all of their plays and others only some. So feel free to weigh in on the list or add to it. We may not get this done this year. But lets work towards the future!!!
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3G Sports – fairly consistent on getting their picks
NCAA 17-10 +38
NFL 7-4 +30
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Allen Eastman – his first 2 weeks I have a different ranking system for his plays… based on 1-7* and not $
NCAA 8-8 +1991
NFL 23-14 +2055
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Anthony Redd – good in NCAA
28-18 +150
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Apache – missing 2 weeks fo NFL plays from him
NFL 17-10 +169
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ATS Lock…mentioned above
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Blazer – missing 3 weeks of NCAA plays
NCAA 17-10 +6
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Black widow
NCAA 18-12 +17
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Bob Valentino – I like him because he is selective on his bests
NCAA 5-2 +195
NFL 3-2 +25
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Chris Jordon – good in NFL
8-5 +1000
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Destroy the Books – paretic plays
NCAA 8-0 +21
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Dominic Fazzini – sporadic
NCAA 6-1 +75
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Executive – my favorite
NCAA 29-11 +5050
NFL 11-7 +1250
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Frank patron – again selective on plays… I like!
NCAA 13-6 +100000
NFL 6-3 +50000
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Karl Garrett – missing is first 3 weeks
NCAA 12-7 +90
NFL 2-1 +90
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Kelso – good on his big plays… his is marginal record but positive units
NCAA 16-18 +269
NFL 10-5 +227
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NCAA 23-15 +29
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NSA – good in NCAA sucks in NFL
NCAA 19-5 +180
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RAS – totals duh but not worth the $10000 I heard them talking about
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Seabass – NCAA but not NFL
NCAA 39-36 +1350
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NFL 12-3 +3100
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NCAA 6-1 +13
NFL 1-0 +3
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Ncaa 25-31
NFL 11-16
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Chris Jordon
NCAA 8-21 -900
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NCAA 4-12 -18
NFL 3-5 -4
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NFL 5-7 -200
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NFL 4-10 -20

mpacman · Oct 26, 2009

I believe last year's performance doesnt guarantee a success this year. Very well be look into someone who are documented by a third party source and have a couple of years of Record in certain area of sports. What U Think?

khouston66 · Oct 26, 2009

RAS is $10k, I am sure Edward will deliver in Nov-Dec...He now says he is not playing until December "because of market conditions", I do not know what that means. Edward is a good and honest man so I will not judge him, I think because of his great success in Nov-Dec last year he can charge what the market will support in Nov-Dec.... After December he was 50% on his total picks.....

khouston66 · Oct 26, 2009

icethekicker said:
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Which leads me to my next point, some cappers are better at one sport, college, or pros. And after 2 months of flowing tons of cappers I have a pretty good idea but would love feed back and input.
The main problem I have is that some cappers picks have been available consistently and others have been very sporadic. In addition what is really annoying are all the random cappers that get posted. I mean its ridiculous!!! I will see picks from a capper one week and maybe never see them again or see them a month down the road. Like Charlie who lit it up for the first few weeks and then kind of crashed and was never to be seen on the forum again. And I know they way in on the decisions of what some people take even though they are a completely random capper.
So I guess the point I am trying to make is. Instead of going out and buying random cappers picks. Stop being sold on these guys or being afraid you are going to miss the hot streak of a capper. Lets just focus out cash and invest into proven winners and from there we can all make our own consensus picks and win!
I hope this makes sense?!?! The following is a list of the cappers that I feel are worthy and also the ones you don’t need to bother wasting your time with. The stats do not include this weekend!!! Some I feel I have gotten a majority if not all of their plays and others only some. So feel free to weigh in on the list or add to it. We may not get this done this year. But lets work towards the future!!!
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3G Sports – fairly consistent on getting their picks
NCAA 17-10 +38
NFL 7-4 +30
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Allen Eastman – his first 2 weeks I have a different ranking system for his plays… based on 1-7* and not $
NCAA 8-8 +1991
NFL 23-14 +2055
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Anthony Redd – good in NCAA
28-18 +150
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Apache – missing 2 weeks fo NFL plays from him
NFL 17-10 +169
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ATS Lock…mentioned above
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Blazer – missing 3 weeks of NCAA plays
NCAA 17-10 +6
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Black widow
NCAA 18-12 +17
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Bob Valentino – I like him because he is selective on his bests
NCAA 5-2 +195
NFL 3-2 +25
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Chris Jordon – good in NFL
8-5 +1000
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Destroy the Books – paretic plays
NCAA 8-0 +21
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Dominic Fazzini – sporadic
NCAA 6-1 +75
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Executive – my favorite
NCAA 29-11 +5050
NFL 11-7 +1250
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Frank patron – again selective on plays… I like!
NCAA 13-6 +100000
NFL 6-3 +50000
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Karl Garrett – missing is first 3 weeks
NCAA 12-7 +90
NFL 2-1 +90
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Kelso – good on his big plays… his is marginal record but positive units
NCAA 16-18 +269
NFL 10-5 +227
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KBHoops
NCAA 23-15 +29
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NSA – good in NCAA sucks in NFL
NCAA 19-5 +180
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RAS – totals duh but not worth the $10000 I heard them talking about
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Seabass – NCAA but not NFL
NCAA 39-36 +1350
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Score – NFL
NFL 12-3 +3100
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The Greatest – very sporadic
NCAA 6-1 +13
NFL 1-0 +3
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NO – ie great fade material
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Cappers Access –
Ncaa 25-31
NFL 11-16
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Chris Jordon
NCAA 8-21 -900
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Igz1 Sports – sporadic and sucks
NCAA 4-12 -18
NFL 3-5 -4
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Street Rosenthal
18-28 -1200
NFL 5-7 -200
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NFL 4-10 -20

sebass - sebastian is horrible, period

executive is pretty good

stay clear of seabass, the guy has no clue.

saminsocal · Oct 26, 2009

icethekicker said:
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i have been following:

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i would be very interested in a buy group (which is basically what you are describing) for some combination of these handicappers - plus any solids you deem worthy (judging by the list, maybe only adding 3G).

there is a lot of merit to what you are proposing. unfortunately there would only be a handful of contributors (or less). this forum is an incredible collection of leeches. anyway... having the picks consistently and as early as possible would be a huge benefit.

to entice participation, i really think you should somehow motivate participants by distributing picks to contributors first and non-contributors closer to kickoff. anyone that doesn't like that has the option to participate IN THIS SPECIFIC BUY GROUP. people post some of the random shit you mentioned and then start demanding some of the more expensive plays/handicappers be posted. the forum is for SHARING, and it seems much more one-sided.

count me in.

i would think/hope we could get this done for a one month commitment. the first step would be to see who is posting these, who has purchased these and see if they would like to commit to participate in exchange for being distributed the other picks.

marksdolphins · Oct 26, 2009

CLOWNS UPDATE
Golden Nuggett would be proud
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BRANDON LANG
Last 50 Days
W/L/P: 44/72/1
Win:Loss: 37.93%
Total Units: -673.60
Dime clients -$673,600
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STEVE BUDIN
Last 50 Days
W/L/P: 5/6/0
Win:Loss: 45.45%
Total Units: -20.00
Dime clients -$20,000
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CHRIS JORDON
Last 50 Days
W/L/P: 38/40/1
Win:Loss: 48.72%
Total Units: -13.56
Dime clients $-13,560
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AL DEMARCO
Last 50 Days
W/L/P: 10/12/1
Win:Loss: 45.45%
Total Units: +3.50
Dime players +$3,500
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JEFF BENTON
Last 50 days
W/L/P: 34/41/1
Win:Loss: 45.33%
Total Units: -215.25
Dime clients -$215,250
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RECORDS DONT LIE
Documented
http://betonepicks.com/results/
d1g1t

FalconPhan · Oct 26, 2009

im confused about kelso the eagles are a 50 play also?

saminsocal · Oct 26, 2009

marksdolphins said:
CLOWNS UPDATE
RECORDS DONT LIE
Documented
http://betonepicks.com/results/
d1g1t

actually, incomplete records DO LIE. budin 11 picks last 365 days? that's a website that i REALLY trust...

not saying that the guy could pick his brother out of a room full of .... you get the idea. just saying that if you purport a website to be accurate when it's not, then you're not really being objective.

budin may be worse over the course of the last 365 days, but it's impossible to tell anything by what you provided. i would never base who i follow on 11 picks - whether he was 11-0, 0-11 or 5-6 (-20 units).

marksdolphins · Oct 26, 2009

sam in so cal said:
actually, incomplete records DO LIE. budin 11 picks last 365 days? that's a website that i REALLY trust...

not saying that the guy could pick his brother out of a room full of .... you get the idea. just saying that if you purport a website to be accurate when it's not, then you're not really being objective.

budin may be worse over the course of the last 365 days, but it's impossible to tell anything by what you provided. i would never base who i follow on 11 picks - whether he was 11-0, 0-11 or 5-6 (-20 units).

i understand on there emails they sent us there going to document for a full year 365 days see what they can do, also on there emails they sent out they have a new database ordered and going to document 40 more handicappers. this is good for all of us to see what everyone can do, nothing better than good true records. they just started this 50 days ago for other clowns. i will update every week as i been doing really see what there made of :103631605

knaw_son · Oct 26, 2009

FalconPhan said:
im confused about kelso the eagles are a 50 play also?

He had a 50 unit parlay last night. I was posting it just for tracking purposes, or in case someone was looking for Kelso tonight.

bort · Oct 26, 2009

marksdolphins said:
i understand on there emails they sent us there going to document for a full year 365 days see what they can do, also on there emails they sent out they have a new database ordered and going to document 40 more handicappers. this is good for all of us to see what everyone can do, nothing better than good true records. they just started this 50 days ago for other clowns. i will update every week as i been doing really see what there made of

I don't understand why he would need to order a "new database" just to follow 40 more handicappers... on my website I track over 800 handicappers and I've still got the same database that I started with. :laugh:

If anyone is interested my site's URL is http://scamdicappers.com/top-handicappers

marksdolphins · Oct 26, 2009

bort said:
I don't understand why he would need to order a "new database" just to follow 40 more handicappers... on my website I track over 800 handicappers and I've still got the same database that I started with.

If anyone is interested my site's URL is http://scamdicappers.com/top-handicappers

may told it wrong think they ordered a new website with a new database for many handicappers we will see soon i hope. far as your website there you document mostly free picks? or paid picks? man 800 handicappers keeps you busy?:think2:

bort · Oct 26, 2009

marksdolphins said:
may told it wrong think they ordered a new website with a new database for many handicappers we will see soon i hope. far as your website there you document mostly free picks? or paid picks? man 800 handicappers keeps you busy?:think2:

Pretty much anything that gets posted in this forum ends up getting tracked on my site (free, paid, whatever). I also have a bunch of other sources and some reports that I pay for. So yeah, keeps me pretty busy. d1g1t

JDizzle311 · Oct 26, 2009

How does Root rate his plays? how strong is 3*?

heycommish · Oct 26, 2009

Fat Jack Monday Picks

Does anyone have The Fat Jacks monday play?

marksdolphins · Oct 26, 2009

bort said:
Pretty much anything that gets posted in this forum ends up getting tracked on my site (free, paid, whatever). I also have a bunch of other sources and some reports that I pay for. So yeah, keeps me pretty busy. d1g1t

sounds great maybee you can help ed in calf with a budin 365? i would be surprised if its on plus side maybee im wrong. best of luck there bort we need more tracking like you do i do like your name on that site.:toast:

bort · Oct 26, 2009

marksdolphins said:
sounds great maybee you can help ed in calf with a budin 365? i would be surprised if its on plus side maybee im wrong. best of luck there bort we need more tracking like you do i do like your name on that site.:toast:

Thanks. I still can't believe that domain was available for registration.

Also, Budin just started doing free picks the past few weeks so I've been putting those in there as well.

CarolinaJ.E.D · Oct 26, 2009

MysteryMan said:
WAYNE ROOT

2009 Football Upset Club

Monday, October 26, 2009
3*Eagles (-7½) over Redskins
8:30 PM -- FedEx Field

Mostly cloudy. Winds blowing from the East at 5-10 m.p.h. Game-time temperature: Around 65.

Paid/Confirmed

How would this be a Upset :laugh:

:think2:

JDizzle311 · Oct 26, 2009

Anyone have Nover?

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