Media Says War In Iraq Is Going Badly.

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that must be why

it is at a record low to the euro, and at 1.86 to the GBP it is the lowest I can remember it in my 39 years here.

Florida here I come, banana republic prices on offer for tourists!
 

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its on!

Well I have shorted myself of $50,000 at 1.85 to the pound. I figure that if by some miracle Gameface is right, it will be worth losing $3k or so to the dollar bounce. Since we will all be able to sleep easier if the USA can somehow get out of this mess.

If however Gameface is as I strongly suspect talking out of something most people fart out of, then although we will all be more at risk to the resulting spread of problems, at least I'll be a bit richer.

A financial benefit to a psychological minus.
 

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"abroad they love the yankee dollar."


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GAMEFACE said:
This is so stupid. Bush has had his hands tied by the politically correct left and media the last year. Once the Marines go in Fullujah it will be cleaned up in 15 days. In 3 months this is all going to look so silly, the talk of losing. Same ole doom and gloom like they said we'd lose 5000 soldiers taking Baghdad. None of their predictions ever come true and no one ever calls them on it. The left makes a silly prediction and when it does'nt come true they just make another hoping for failure, pretty sad. They said it about Gulf 1, then Afghanistan, then taking Baghdad, now we are going to lose cleaning up the final hold outs. None of it's true, it never happens. They hope for failure so for once they can be right, sad. They want to say bogged down, defeat, can't win, wrong war, bush bad, it's the same ole sh!t. When it works out in Iraq they will act as if it never happened and they'll say besides it had nothing to do with Bush it was Carter or the UN or anyone except the man responsible for the success when it all works out.

8 days in. not so doomy and gloomy.
 
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US troops are gonna be running & gunning to "Hot spots" for a long time to come ...

Our occupation of Iraq is like having a bar with free drinks and inviting anyone with a drinking problem to show up ...

Junior had a great rallying call with his "Bring It On" dare to the terrorists
 

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the doom and gloomers are proven wrong again in falluja. lets see.. maybe 1200 insurgents dead, 1000 captured, massive underground bunkers found and destroyed, little civilian losses, maybe 40 dead on our side. its hard to imagine it could have gone much better. I have some good news for the people who think this isn't going well, our brave soldiers are gaining combat experience and should be even more effective and deadly next time.
 

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then again...

200,000 homeless refugees, accounts from locals suggest that civilian casulaties are much higher than the Marines will allow, numerous buildings destroyed or badly damaged with little prospect of them being quickly rebuilt given the lack of contractors still around, if things are so cool there why can't the Red Crescent enter the city centre to help out?

Not to mention the killing of the unarmed guy in the mosque broadcast on Arab TV all over the place. Not that I blame the Marine much, he'd been wounded himself, seen others die, this sort of thing happens on both sides in all wars. (If you right wing Bible Bashers are okay with it though, how'd you react if someone came over to Salt Lake for the next prayer meet and did the same thing in your church? Well that is how a lot of Arabs will re reacting right now.)

I don't blame the Marine. Just the incompetent fools who sent him to war in the first place.
 

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like I said - you leftist nutcases see good news and then pick through it to find the most pessimistic aspects. The opinions of arabs are irrelevant. Do they care about our reaction when they behead some innocent person? Victory in Iraq is certain. The path to glory is clear. Thank god we have a man like Bush who will not waiver or retreat.
 

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men in history

Men in history who would not waiver or retreat:

Hitler
Stalin (if left to him Germany would have won WW2 in Europe)
the Japanese junto in 1945
the Argentinian junta in 1982
Alexander the great (towards the end when his army roasted in the desert)

Men who had the ability to sanction retreats and regroups in good time:

Churchill
Wellington
Zhukov (the commander who really saved Russia in WW2)
Alexander the Great (in his early days)
Oliver Cromwell (for those not familiar with him, with no military training he became the most successful British general ever with 5 wins and 0 losses.)

Me, I will take a commonsense retreater & regrouper every time over a diehard "no retreat" idiot whose own life is safe and snug every time.
 
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peskypups heroes: Neville Chamberlain and Charles DeGaul

Pesky - tell the truth, you're French, aren't you.
 

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50-50

You're half right.

Chamberlain was fooled by Hitler along with Lyndbergh, 60% plus of the UK population and 80% plus of the US population at the time. The big blunder was letting him roll into Czechoslovakia, the only democracy in Eastern Europe at the time and the best defended neighbour to Germany.

De Gaulle is the sort of guy I admire, yes. Very much like Churchill, a man prepared to stand alone against the tide of the rest of the country. When most of France were pathetically caving in and forming the despicable Vichy regime, DeGaul was still fighting the Nazis.

He carried on the fight from London, motivated his resistance from there, stood up to Churchill and FDR at times. Infuriating, arrogant, yes. But other than Napoleon probably the best ever French leader. Oh, and in 1955 he managed to run rings round us Brits with the setting up of the European market, which cost British jobs for 30 years afterwards and we are still playing "catch up" now.

And since he was even further to the right than Bush I'd have thought you'd have been a fan of his too.
 

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