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If you count Florida as the south....there is a certain stereotype that goes with people who display the confederate flag. Doesn't matter the root cause slavery was still an underlying theme of the civil war.
 

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If you count Florida as the south....there is a certain stereotype that goes with people who display the confederate flag. Doesn't matter the root cause slavery was still an underlying theme of the civil war.

Yeah that is what I've heard.

Most of the flag displays are in more rural areas.

If you're saying it isn't about racism, the confederacy was still made to secede, so you're just saying you were pro-secession 150 years ago? Seems like a weird position to be adamant about considering America turned out fairly well after the fact.

IMO Any individual can fly whatever flag they want but I just don't get the undying loyalty to that flag.
 

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I was born and raised in SC. Had family that fought for the confederacy. I also grew up in a predominantly black town. Racial tension is nowhere near as popular as the media would have you believe. In my 30 years of life, i cant remember one major racial event or conflict. , there are a few people that fly confederate flags but it is really not popular. And black people around here really never comment about it. Maybe the majority of black people around here are immune to it by now. To me, it just seems like a political play. For what it's worth, I don't think the confederate flag should be flying on the state house though. Mainly because it makes the rest of country still see SC as backwards.
 

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Lmao, yea it definitely wasn't about slavery or racism. They were just good guys who wanted to be left alone by the Federal Government so they can continuing owning people and forcing them to do their labor.

South Carolina Declaration of Secession from the United States of America...

In the present case, that fact is established with certainty. We assert that fourteen of the States have deliberately refused, for years past, to fulfill their constitutional obligations, and we refer to their own Statutes for the proof.
The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."
This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.
The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.

These ends it endeavored to accomplish by a Federal Government, in which each State was recognized as an equal, and had separate control over its own institutions. The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.
We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

The Civil War was about slavery and nothing else. Anything about state rights or the federal government hinged on the fact they were trying to stop slavery in the south. You can see it in their own words, what secession meant to them. It was about the right to own people. And people find that to be a courageous effort? Yea, people like Roof, lol. That's why people view the Confederate flag as Roof views it... a symbol of hate and racism. They were just pissed the north wasn't giving them their slaves back because it affected the wealthy's bottom line as they lost their laborers and help.
 

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Side stepping what? Wars are necessary my friend. Going back thousands of years, wars are necessary. It doesn't make them crimes against humanity. The Civil War was not a crime against humanity. The Civil War was necessary.

'Thus ended the great American Civil War, which must upon the whole be considered the noblest and least
avoidable of all great conflicts of which till then there was record.'
Winston Churchill
A History of the English Speaking Peoples
 

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Lmao, yea it definitely wasn't about slavery or racism. They were just good guys who wanted to be left alone by the Federal Government so they can continuing owning people and forcing them to do their labor.

South Carolina Declaration of Secession from the United States of America...

In the present case, that fact is established with certainty. We assert that fourteen of the States have deliberately refused, for years past, to fulfill their constitutional obligations, and we refer to their own Statutes for the proof.
The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."
This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.
The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.

These ends it endeavored to accomplish by a Federal Government, in which each State was recognized as an equal, and had separate control over its own institutions. The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.
We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.

The Civil War was about slavery and nothing else. Anything about state rights or the federal government hinged on the fact they were trying to stop slavery in the south. You can see it in their own words, what secession meant to them. It was about the right to own people. And people find that to be a courageous effort? Yea, people like Roof, lol. That's why people view the Confederate flag as Roof views it... a symbol of hate and racism. They were just pissed the north wasn't giving them their slaves back because it affected the wealthy's bottom line as they lost their laborers and help.

Not again! This flag is a part of our nations' history and heritage. And, is being used as a tool by this nations' "perpetual victim class" as leverage.
If that nutcase in Charleston had posed with a Jolly Roger flag or a John Deere flag, some dope would be at war with pirates and farm tractors
 

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Not again! This flag is a part of our nations' history and heritage. And, is being used as a tool by this nations' "perpetual victim class" as leverage.
If that nutcase in Charleston had posed with a Jolly Roger flag or a John Deere flag, some dope would be at war with pirates and farm tractors

Lmao, whatever you want to tell yourself to make you sleep at night. Everyone knows why he waved around a confederate flag instead of a John Deere flag, lol. Nice try though. I just hope you guys don't do something stupid and the North has to whoop that ass again! Progressives will always win.
 

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Heritage, family, States rights, Natiionalism, religion, GOD....ALL are words that the Stars and Bars represent and ALL ARE WORDS
youll NEVER heard spoken proudly out of a socialist, liberal, white protestor of the flag...THEY HATE ALL THOSE WORDS....
 

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Flag of treason. Should never have been allowed to fly after the war. Lee should have been hanged also.
 

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Looks like states may need to break their flags out. Way govt and the jackass in the White House going many states may wish to pull out again
 

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How many even know of Abe's plans to ship all blacks to jungles of Central America ?
 

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Flag of treason. Should never have been allowed to fly after the war. Lee should have been hanged also.

A description of Lee as he led his constantly victorious army against superior numbers northward. 'A honest man & gentlemen.
He had no vices! He does not drink or smoke or gamble or chase women. He does not own slaves or believe in slavery. He does not
lose his temper or faith, he never complains. He loves Virginia most of all, the mystic dirt of home. He is the most beloved man
in either army.'

Doesn't seem like a guy that deserved hanging to me.
 

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A description of Lee as he led his constantly victorious army against superior numbers northward. 'A honest man & gentlemen.
He had no vices! He does not drink or smoke or gamble or chase women. He does not own slaves or believe in slavery. He does not
lose his temper or faith, he never complains. He loves Virginia most of all, the mystic dirt of home. He is the most beloved man
in either army.'

Doesn't seem like a guy that deserv

ed hanging to me.



Treason carried a penalty of death. Great guy. Bad judgement.
 

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TV Land has taken down Dukes of Hazzard reruns and stopped selling merch. I shit you not.
 

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TV Land has taken down Dukes of Hazzard reruns and stopped selling merch. I shit you not.

That's where the liberal PC crowd loses me. It's one thing not to fly the flag in city hall, but come on the Duke's of Hazzard? Loved that show when I was a kid.
 

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Bunch of bullshit. To many fuxkjng pussies in the world that get their pussy feelings hurt
 

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