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L.A. Times Caught Lying Again: Davis Hack Is Behind Attack

The insanely pro-Democrat Los Angeles Times has been exposed once again. LA Weekly has found plenty of holes in the rag's story Saturday about three more women accusing Arnold Schwarzenegger of sexual misconduct.

The Times, which also specializes in leftward-biased polls, claims that none of the Schwarzenegger’s opponents prompted the accusations. However, LA Weekly columnist Bill Bradley notes:


One of the three women in the story says she came forward at the urging of Jodie Evans, described by the Times as a peace activist and "co-founder of the women’s peace group Code Pink." At best, this is an incomplete, misleading description.
Here’s what the newspaper should have said about Evans. She is actually a former close colleague of Gov. Gray Davis, a longtime Democratic operative and a friend of noted Democratic hit man Bob Mulholland. Evans is also the ex-wife of Westside financier Max Palevsky, the man who gave Gray Davis his first job in politics as the fund-raiser in Tom Bradley’s 1973 mayoral campaign.

Oops! Someone should have told John Carroll, the Times editor and anti-bias crusader.

Evans worked closely with Davis in the administration of Gov. Jerry Brown. While Davis served as Brown’s chief of staff, Evans was Brown’s chief fund-raiser and director of administration in the governor’s office.

Why didn’t the Times give an accurate description of Evans, who has pushed at least one woman to come forward with last-minute charges? On the campaign bus outside Fresno just now, I asked veteran Times columnist George Skelton, who acknowledges the reality of Evans’ deep ties to Davis and the Democrats, why the Times described her so disingenuously.

"Maybe the reporters and editors just didn’t know," he says.

The Times is presenting itself authoritatively on these matters. If the Times doesn’t know where the stories are coming from, what else does it not know? If the Times is not ignorant about these connections, that is a whole different kettle of fish.

As most Californians know by now, Davis is the champion of negative campaigning and has nearly perfected the strategy of last-minute allegations breaking in the final days of the campaign. It should not be surprising to Times Mirror Square that his fingerprints appear on at least the latest story.

Bradley, by the way, tried to arrange a debate between Schwarzenegger and Davis, which could only have helped the increasingly desperate Davis.


Times Pays for Its Bias


Hooray: A thousand readers disgusted with the rag's extreme bias have canceled their subscriptions, and hundreds of others have flooded it with angry letters, phone calls and e-mails, according to Reuters.


Schwarzenegger has noted the Times is working with its beloved corrupt incumbent, Gray Davis, in an orchestrated campaign of "puke politics" intended to destroy him.


One reader, Bill Agee, said the rag's stories were dropped "like stink bombs at the last moment to ruin the momentum [Schwarzenegger has] got."

The hacks at the Times still fail to give satisfactory explanations about why they attack Schwarzenegger so prominently for claims of mere groping but buried news of the rapist Bill Clinton.



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There are now 15 women claiming he gropped them. his wife just fainted cause he hasnt layed a hand on her razor like face in years,
 

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ok, a few questions for your retard ass:

why are the times lefty when they are owned and run by a multibillion corporate conglomarate?

how is ape justified in running a state, is it his governing prowess, his knowledge, what?

one thing makes me happy when i read such posts, is that i ll die with a smile on my face, as someone's said, not thinking that the good lord bestowed me with such dumbassness. Bumer to live and die and be condemned to such ignorance.
 

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i am not for clinton, no way, but how a rhodes scholar be compared to a faggoty testosterone injecting body building braindead freak is beyond me...
 

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Arnold is also a baby killer, no real republican will vote for this piece of garbage
 

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Jack:

Elections are won as a result of the Cult of Personality, not people voting intelligently. Intelligent people don't vote for someone who has never given a good explanation of his/her platform.

Ah yes, we are governed by a group of people placed there by sheep.
 

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I didn't notice a source for that article, if the LA Times is slanted liberal, can we assume that the source for your article is slanted right Pat?

Either way this is kind of a non-issue in my mind. I don't know if Arnold would be good or bad but his past encounters with women really have nothing to do with it. If he was guilty of anything illegal or grossly inappropriate the female victims should have taken action at the time it happened, bringing it up now just because he's running for public office is a cheap shot. Aside from that it's personal. Does anybody here believe that JFK never gropped a female inappropriately? Of course the press at that time didn't dare get involved in the President's personal affairs. But as we've cheapened and become more and more sensationalistic as far as the news goes, we've dropped to the levels of impeaching a President for lying about a blow job, a question he never should have been asked in the first place.
As I say I'm neither for or against Arnold, but this does look to me like a personal attack, nothing to do with the issues and just basically dirty politics.
 

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"But as we've cheapened and become more and more sensationalistic as far as the news goes, we've dropped to the levels of impeaching a President for lying about a blow job, a question he never should have been asked in the first place.
As I say I'm neither for or against Arnold, but this does look to me like a personal attack, nothing to do with the issues and just basically dirty politics."

very well said, but most political "debate" on elected officials in the u.s. is centered around lifestyle issues, his or her sexual uprightness (if there ever was such a term), facades and appearances in general, no substance all style, or as some nutritionists say "empty calories". Sadly, the leading country in the world, in more ways than one, and the foremost world empire, is, unsurprisingly, the one with the least politically educated people, and one where the level of political discourse is minimal if not a non entity all together.

I like to recount the way president miteran replied to a journalist when asked about an illigitimate child he had had with a former mistress while married? Et, alors? (So, what?). Of course unlike the states, (or unlike most of the historical time in the states), places such as france, germany, greece, italy, etc. etc. have demonstrated through history a high level of political consciousness and discourse. This is not to say, as bigGames pointed out, that in these europian countries the majority of voters are not "sheep" voters too, esp. recently with the collapse of communism and the all encompassing propagandist practises of the new world order, but the amount of political illiteracy in the u.s. is abysmal and growing. In NO country in Europe would the sexual affairs of a candidate be an issue.
 

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Plain and simple.

The hacks at the Times still fail to give satisfactory explanations about why they attack Schwarzenegger so prominently for claims of mere groping but buried news of the rapist Bill Clinton
 

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JACK DEE,

You have been guilty of saying some frighteningly stupid things in the past, but your latest post in this thread is your "finest" work yet!

According to you, "Of course unlike the states, (or unlike most of the historical time in the states), places such as france, germany, greece, italy, etc. etc. have demonstrated through history a high level of political consciousness and discourse."

Now that is truly laughable. High level of political consciousness???

FRANCE---Are you kidding me? Ever heard of the Reign of Terror? How about the Guillotine? How about Dreyfus, but then again you're probably not literate enough to know who Dreyfus is. How about the "enlightened" Vichy French who willingly shipped Jews to Nazi Germany. And for more recent times, we have good old fashioned anti-semitism...but I forgot, you also hate Jews as you've proven with your anti-Israel rants.

GERMANY---Does the name Hitler mean anything to you? Yes, the discourse in that country has been truly wonderful over the years. Planning on joining the 4th Reich anytime soon, I hear they are very "enlightened" just like you. And of course there's that wonderful German Karl Marx who inspired 140 years of Communist tyrrany in the former Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and a host of other backwards nations. Of course, I'll personally never forget your post to me several months ago where you expressed your profound admiration for Marx and Soviet style governments.

GREECE---Your pathetic country hasn't had an original thought since the days of Plato and Aristotle, so let's not talk about the intelligent discourse in Greece, which is about 2,500 years past its prime.

ITALY---Yes, Mussolini was a notoriously tolerant man, and the marxists who guided the nation through much of the post World War II era did such a wonderful job after Mussolini was properly murdered.

Look Jack, we all know you hate the US. I understand that your hatred of my country is somewhat akin to the unathletic, 130-pound loser in high school who hates the quarterback of the football team because he's smart, good looking and is nailing the best looking chearleader. It's sort of like Penis Envy, and you my friend have a very serious case of it in terms of how you relate to Americans.

Well, I guess I'm finished chastising you like the child you clearly are. I don't post often, but if you require more abuse, please feel free to request some with your predicatbly inane response to my post.
 

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"FRANCE---Are you kidding me? Ever heard of the Reign of Terror? How about the Guillotine?"

Those were direct results of the french revolution, you simpleton, one of the main reasons for the states revolting against the "english" queens tyrrany. I should rest my case for the idiocy of this comment alone.

"GREECE---Your pathetic country hasn't had an original thought since the days of Plato and Aristotle, so let's not talk about the intelligent discourse in Greece, which is about 2,500 years past its prime."

You are obviously unaware of the byzantine empire spanning a few hundred years and the greek orthodox culture, you are obviously unaware too that greece is the only country in europe, that after a horrible bloody war of indedendence against turkey, fought with whatever limited means they had against empirialists in both world wars.

"Look Jack, we all know you hate the US. I understand that your hatred of my country is somewhat akin to the unathletic, 130-pound loser in high school who hates the quarterback of the football team because he's smart, good looking and is nailing the best looking chearleader. It's sort of like Penis Envy, and you my friend have a very serious case of it in terms of how you relate to Americans."

First the hate card, then the ad hominem. Too boring. As "the quarterback of the football team because he's smart, good looking", lmao, yeah right, most quarterbacks are too smart and too good looking, as most cheerleaders (and it's cheer not chear) are worth much more than a few lays.

Thanks for isolating a single quote from my post and then misconstruing it, rational discussion is something a lot o people in this forum are incapable of, which comes a long way to validate what i ve been saying in the above post. Now run out with a banner, and yell: "go arnie, go!"

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"but I forgot, you also hate Jews as you've proven with your anti-Israel rants."

this is a damn lie and you know that, show me a post where i ve "ranted" against jews or the jewish culture.
 

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Speaking of the the "enlightened France", There are also a lot of reports of anti-semitism on the rise, and through Europe.

Oh by the way Jackoff, just because the newspapers are owned by big coorporation does not mean that the journalist don't have a leftist slant.90% of them 3 years ago were admitted democrats...And how about Ted Turner?The owner of CNN (Clinton News Network)..Its so fxcking left wing biased that the ratings are in the toilet.
 

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JACK,

So now that you've been attacked you get all high and mighty? You're asking for the discourse to be more intelligent and more civil???

This coming from a man who has spent the past several months engaging in childish rants on why America is a bad country because they have too many fat people??? Or how about your numerous personal insults to Patriot and other conservative posters? Obviously I am just turning your own style against you.

Once upon a time, you and I DID engage in intelligent conversation here, but you forfeited your right to such discourse when you began calling people names and acting like Grantt, remember him? All you have become is Grantt with a slightly higher I.Q.

And as for your attempt to discredit my comments by pointing out a typographic error in my spelling the word cheerleader, well that's just sad on your part. For example, must I point out that in your previous posts in this thread you refer to former French leader "Miteran"??? I guess you meant Francois Mitterand, but who's checking? Or maybe you meant "imperialists" in your last post?

AND IN A TRUE EXAMPLE OF YOUR AMAZING LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, we have this gem in your last post:

"Those were direct results of the french revolution, you simpleton, one of the main reasons for the states revolting against the "english" queens tyrrany. I should rest my case for the idiocy of this comment alone."

Well Jackie boy, this one really takes the cake and shows how uneducated you truly are. The American revolution was BEFORE the French revolution, more than a DECADE before the French revolution. Look it up. American Declaration of Independence in 1776, French Revolution starts in 1791. You claim to be educated but you don't know this SIMPLE fact??? Also, England had a King when the US Revolution took place, not a Queen as you stated.

Care for any more abuse Jack, I have plenty more where that came from. But you're making it far too easy for me with all of your historically inaccurate statements.
 

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Fist of all time sequence only incidentaly has anything to do with causality, or partial causality, so spare me the historical lecture.

"Once upon a time, you and I DID engage in intelligent conversation here, but you forfeited your right to such discourse when you began calling people names and acting like Grantt, remember him?"
Secondly, take your fvcking fascism elsewhere, this is a public forum, leave the patronising shit about me "forfeiting my rights" elsewhere. Unlike most here, grantt was both much more intelligent and with some decent level of education. He was also irritating, provocative, and other less than perfect characteristics, which i too disliked. His thread where mostly tongue in cheek or turned into pissing contests with shots fired from all sides, and i too took part in them, so what, huh? And i have indeed "name called" a select couple of posters here, either just like that or in response to them, posters whom i ve repeatedly tried to get some intelligent reply from, or at least any reply from, point to point in what i am saying and haven't, so what again?

"Care for any more abuse Jack, I have plenty more where that came from."

is this your point is posting? It probably is, you like to play the vague hate and anti-americanism card, take my comments out of context and answer selectively, lie as calling me an anti-semite, attempt to insult me etc. etc. Have it your way, i don't really care. Let me tell you something though, your psycosocial projections and issues of self respect and pride are up to you to deal with, ain't gonna help by spitting out a few words in an anonymours internet forum.

I make a simple god damn point on the level of political education and discourse in the states being much lower than most places in europe (as demonstrated here too by the infatuation with their elected officials sex life), a point most progressive americans would agree with, i even say that this has not always been the case in the states, i also admit that the majority of voters in europe are "sheep" voters too, and i get your shitty complexive replies. Well, you know what, fvck you too. This is my end reply, i don't have personal issues with any posters here, and you seem to do so, imo it's both pointless, and over.
 

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