LBJ's War on Poverty = Utter and Complete Failure, $15 Trillion down the drain

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There are plenty of families that Public assistance has been a lifeblood for, and helped get them out of Poverty. Mitt Romney's for one. There are plenty of families that haven't risen out of it. War on Poverty was way before LBJ, and will continue way after Obama.

Of course....it's just the same people who have a hate for those less fortunate.....when you live in the bubble like these rx repubs do....you just don't understand what's really going on in the world
 

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In hindsight, maybe this is true.

But, show me some evidence that someone argued against it in 1964 for this reason.

I'm going to suggest Barry Goldwater must have :)

don't see how a libertarian would advocate for such
 
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Of course....it's just the same people who have a hate for those less fortunate.....when you live in the bubble like these rx repubs do....you just don't understand what's really going on in the world
I see people that make a better living sucking off taxpayer tit than working for a living & thats the whole thing in the nutshell...
 
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Simply not true.
Whatever you say Vit but lets make those that are able do something for it not sit around watching TV all day,fucking & breeding more welfare brats,eating bon bons & getting paid free money for nothin..
 

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Whatever you say Vit but lets make those that are able do something for it not sit around watching TV all day,fucking & breeding more welfare brats,eating bon bons & getting paid free money for nothin..

This I TOTALLY AGREE with. Everyone collecting welfare should have to do something for it. I don't give a crap if you're sweeping the sidewalk all day. That city/town should have the cleanest sidewalk anywhere!

As for the money being a complete waste, you guys are on ludes. EVERY FREAKING PENNY of that money goes back into the economy. You guys make it sound like it was all wasted on an offshore gambling junket!

I agree that the intentions were/are good but the results are not. I do not believe the answer is do nothing. I do think major changes should be made though.
 

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This I TOTALLY AGREE with. Everyone collecting welfare should have to do something for it. I don't give a crap if you're sweeping the sidewalk all day. That city/town should have the cleanest sidewalk anywhere!

As for the money being a complete waste, you guys are on ludes. EVERY FREAKING PENNY of that money goes back into the economy. You guys make it sound like it was all wasted on an offshore gambling junket!

I agree that the intentions were/are good but the results are not. I do not believe the answer is do nothing. I do think major changes should be made though.
um...... Yea. This.
 

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Whatever you say Vit but lets make those that are able do something for it not sit around watching TV all day,fucking & breeding more welfare brats,eating bon bons & getting paid free money for nothin..

You have no idea what people do all day. Just like in all walks of life, including republican groups, you have bad apples in the bunch but it isn't the norm. You wouldn't know...I doubt you have ever spent anytime with someone on welfare. The problem is you nitwits only see what your conservative comic strips show you. None of you have a clue.
 

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You have no idea what people do all day. Just like in all walks of life, including republican groups, you have bad apples in the bunch but it isn't the norm. You wouldn't know...I doubt you have ever spent anytime with someone on welfare. The problem is you nitwits only see what your conservative comic strips show you. None of you have a clue.

Tough shit.

If I allow someone to live in MY house, they live under MY RULES not theirs.

If they don't like the terms, they can go back on the street and starve to death.

Welfare parasites and far left "poverty advocates" lecturing the hand that feeds them:

"You have no idea what people do all day"...like I said, beyond sick!

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Tough shit.

If I allow someone to live in MY house, they live under MY RULES not theirs.

If they don't like the terms, they can go back on the street and starve to death.

Welfare parasites and far left "poverty advocates" lecturing the hand that feeds them:

"You have no idea what people do all day"...like I said, beyond sick!

:neenee:

So....What's your solution?
 
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In the 40 years after LBJ left office, from 1968 to 2008, we had 5 Republican Presidents for 28 years and 2 Democrat Presidents for 12 years. How is this only the fault of one party? Seems the Republicans who are blaming the Democrats had as much to do with it as they did. Both parties are to blame for not doing anything to make this system better.
 

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So....What's your solution?

What do you mean, WVJOE?

Only the poor understand why they are poor. Only they know all the bad decisions that led up to the situation they are in.

If someone gets kicked out of their parents house, drops out of school, fucks up their credit, has no marketable skills, gets their gf pregnant, drinks and smokes drugs all day, has a criminal record etc., then yeah, they are going to be poor.

Should we feel sorry for them and keep throwing money at the problem? Yeah, that'll work.

It is ridiculous for society to lump millions of these individual cases into a set of "statistics" and try and come up with theories how to "solve the problem."

If you truly believe in free will, you can't "solve" someone else's problem.

If you don't believe in free will, well...hell, for 15 trillion we could have set up colonies on other planets and sent the poor there! :ohno:

For those truly in need, compassion comes from the heart (private charities and churches), not the barrel of a gun (government).

And you can bet your ass that nobody who voluntarily reaches into their pocket and helps the poor will keep doing so if they refuse to change their bad behavior(s).

Only the insanity of Big Government does that.
 

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In the 40 years after LBJ left office, from 1968 to 2008, we had 5 Republican Presidents for 28 years and 2 Democrat Presidents for 12 years. How is this only the fault of one party? Seems the Republicans who are blaming the Democrats had as much to do with it as they did. Both parties are to blame for not doing anything to make this system better.

Progressives in BOTH parties are the problem. Richard Nixon's gift to the American people was the EPA.

But never forget, it's just about politically impossible for reform-oriented Republicans to scrap all these stupid wasteful Democrap programs and agencies that don't work. For this Democraps deserve ALL the blame. Not 99%... ALL OF IT!
 

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How to Fight Income Inequality: Get Married

In families headed by married couples, the poverty level in 2012 was just 7.5%. Those with a single mother: 33.9%.

If President Obama wants to reduce income inequality, he should focus less on redistributing income and more on fighting a major cause of modern poverty: the breakdown of the family. A man mostly raised by a single mother and his grandparents who defied the odds to become president of the United States is just the person to take up the cause.

"Marriage inequality" should be at the center of any discussion of why some Americans prosper and others don't. According to Census Bureau information analyzed by the Beverly LaHaye Institute, among families headed by two married parents in 2012, just 7.5% lived in poverty. By contrast, when families are headed by a single mother the poverty level jumps to 33.9%.

And the number of children raised in female-headed families is growing throughout America. A 2012 study by the Heritage Foundation found that 28.6% of children born to a white mother were out of wedlock. For Hispanics, the figure was 52.5% and for African-Americans 72.3%. In 1964, when the war on poverty began, almost everyone was born in a family with two married parents: only 7% were not.

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Attitudes toward marriage and having children have changed in America over the past 50 years, and low-income children and their mothers are the ones who are paying the price. The statistics make clear what common sense tells us: Children who grow up in a home with married parents have an easier time becoming educated, wealthy and successful than children reared by one parent. As the Heritage study states:

"The U.S. is steadily separating into a two-caste system with marriage and education as the dividing line. In the high-income third of the population, children are raised by married parents with a college education; in the bottom-income third, children are raised by single parents with a high-school diploma or less."

One of the differences between the haves and the have-nots is that the haves tend to marry and give birth, in that order. The have-nots tend to have babies and remain unmarried. Marriage makes a difference. Heritage reports that among white married couples, the poverty rate in 2009 was just 3.2%; for white nonmarried families, the rate was 22%. Among black married couples, the poverty rate was only 7%, but the rate for non-married black families was 35.6%.

Marriage inequality is a substantial reason why income inequality exists. For children, the problem begins the day they are born, and no government can redistribute enough money to fix it. If redistributing money could solve the problem, the $20.7 trillion in 2011 dollars the government has spent on welfare programs since 1964—when President Johnson declared the "war on poverty"—would have eliminated income inequality a long time ago.

The matter is influenced strongly by decisions and values. The majority of women who have children outside of marriage today are adult women in their 20s. (Teenagers under 18 represent less than 8% of out-of-wedlock births.)

Rather than focusing on initiatives that might address this issue, President Obama, as well as Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren and New York City's new mayor, Bill de Blasio, believe that the income gap can be closed by increasing taxes on the better-off and transferring the money to the poor.

Good luck with that. The tax code is already extremely progressive, as a December study by the Congressional Budget Office makes clear, yet poverty remains a significant problem. According to CBO, the top 40% of wage earners, those who make more than $51,100 a year, paid 86.4% of all federal taxes in 2010, the most recent data available. The bottom 40% of earners paid just 4.2% of all taxes. The top 40% paid virtually all of the income tax collected, while the bottom 40% paid a negative 9.1% of all income taxes. Paying "negative" taxes is possible because of the earned-income tax credit and other public-assistance measures that give the bottom 40% refunds for taxes they didn't pay.

Given how deep the problem of poverty is, taking even more money from one citizen and handing it to another will only diminish one while doing very little to help the other. A better and more compassionate policy to fight income inequality would be helping the poor realize that the most important decision they can make is to stay in school, get married and have children—in that order.

Mr. Fleischer, a former press secretary for President George W. Bush, is president of Ari Fleischer Communications.
 

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There are many ways to reduce poverty - none involve the government.

poor choices = poor outcomes

Some people just refuse to accept reality. They'd rather keep living in denial and vote Democrap.
 
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There are many ways to reduce poverty - none involve the government.

poor choices = poor outcomes

Some people just refuse to accept reality. They'd rather keep living in denial and vote Democrap.
Did you not understand my post? If people live in denial and always vote Democrat, how is it that in the 40 year period after LBJ, 28 of those years we had a Republican president? In 10 elections, 7 were won by Republicans. But you continue to keep saying people always vote Democrats to get their free stuff. The system is flawed and in the 40 years before Obama, Republicans were in power for 28 of those years and did nothing to fix it. Again, BOTH parties are to blame!!!
 

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