now you're making a different argument, this has nothing to do with your statement "his family as a right to know"
now you're making a different argument, this has nothing to do with your statement "his family as a right to know"
Yes sir
parents never want to see the reputations of their children tarnished, life 101
as for tragic stories influencing others, how many tragic stories do we need before that phenom starts working?
it's just as likely to teach kids "doing cocaine is cool", Jose Fernandez did it and everybody loved him. Just don't DUI and you'll be fine !!!!!
you'd think the whole world would have stopped smoking by now, eh?
respecting one's privacy is in our distant past
as for tragic stories influencing others, how many tragic stories do we need before that phenom starts working?
it's just as likely to teach kids "doing cocaine is cool", Jose Fernandez did it and everybody loved him. Just don't DUI and you'll be fine !!!!!
you'd think the whole world would have stopped smoking by now, eh?
respecting one's privacy is in our distant past
i'd be remiss;
'made them feel more confident in their abilities and ignore their obvious impairment from the all the alcohol they consumed.' This is true
cocaine does NOT sober one who has been drinking. Basic pharmacology tells us that; the cocaine does not metabolize the alcohol and release it from the body. Good grief the liver does that. And that takes time. Alcohol in excess is a CNS depressant-- keep drinking and eventually you're passing out on the couch. Now, to ADD cocaine to a guy who has been drinking? Good grief it gives him a false sense of improved cognitive function - remember its a CNS stimulant !! Makes you feel more awake. In fact, the person may now DRINK MORE!! elevating already high levels of alcohol in his system (remember the body will clear the alcohol out of the system, cocaine does NOT DO THAT). So, I think anyone can see how dangerous this combo can be. Those kids, maybe,never would have gotten ON THE BOAT if it wasnt for the cocaine, giving them the boost of energy to keep going.
and i'll repost this critical line and the source;
'no one can accurately predict the high or heightened state of drunkenness that a person will have when they mix these two'
http://drugabuse.com/library/concurrent-alcohol-and-cocaine-abuse/
and finally cocaine's effect as a stimulant is DOSE DEPENDANT. Just like Adderall (see post #7,8). What happens if you have TOO MUCH cocaine? (hallucinations, aggressive behaviour...).Why was that kid on Adderall driving the other way on a highway that cost his life (post #8)
? Isn't Adderall a CNS stimulant? keeps you 'alert'?
'made them feel more confident in their abilities and ignore their obvious impairment from the all the alcohol they consumed.' This is true
cocaine does NOT sober one who has been drinking. Basic pharmacology tells us that; the cocaine does not metabolize the alcohol and release it from the body. Good grief the liver does that. And that takes time. Alcohol in excess is a CNS depressant-- keep drinking and eventually you're passing out on the couch. Now, to ADD cocaine to a guy who has been drinking? Good grief it gives him a false sense of improved cognitive function - remember its a CNS stimulant !! Makes you feel more awake. In fact, the person may now DRINK MORE!! elevating already high levels of alcohol in his system (remember the body will clear the alcohol out of the system, cocaine does NOT DO THAT). So, I think anyone can see how dangerous this combo can be. Those kids, maybe,never would have gotten ON THE BOAT if it wasnt for the cocaine, giving them the boost of energy to keep going.
and i'll repost this critical line and the source;
'no one can accurately predict the high or heightened state of drunkenness that a person will have when they mix these two'
http://drugabuse.com/library/concurrent-alcohol-and-cocaine-abuse/
and finally cocaine's effect as a stimulant is DOSE DEPENDANT. Just like Adderall (see post #7,8). What happens if you have TOO MUCH cocaine? (hallucinations, aggressive behaviour...).Why was that kid on Adderall driving the other way on a highway that cost his life (post #8)
? Isn't Adderall a CNS stimulant? keeps you 'alert'?
Good note...Air Force fighter pilots are one of many who routinely take some form of pharmaceutical stimulant to help assure alert blood flow to the brain, thus preventing sleepiness.
RICHOFF aptly notes the problems when such drugs are used to excess and move from being a useful supplement to creating a distorted brain chemical balance
and yet there are no such patterns for drugs
Yes, they done growed up though, flew the coop, they're around the age that Jose Fernandez was when he died (24).
I do get where you're coming from, can relate clearly to what you mean by "embarrassment" for family though I'd imagine that the sheer all-consuming Grief borne of this for them leaves no room for embarrassment.
The Stigma is definitely less. Imagine this happens within the 1950's: 24 yr. old lost to Cocaine/Booze fueled affair there'd be that "embarrassment" you describe but today?
I do see what you mean though and especially about
I'm reminded again that Marlins bumped his Start back so as to throw the best wrench they had in their toolbox at The Mets so as to deliver the best shot they could to derailing Mets playoff qualification.
"If that start don't get bumped back Jose does not die" went to 100 with these autopsy revelations.
there is no need for 'embarrassment'. Parents may want to blame themselves, but embarrassment ? 'it's our fault don't measure up as 'good parents'', so become embarrassed? Save their kid's 'reputation' from judgment ...to not have anyone know cause the parent will be embarrassed? One should change mindsets from grossly- ego oriented to a more humble, forgiving, less self-centered-- it may aid in internal healing.
Sandi Zook, (the mother of the boy that drove eastbound on the westbound lane on a highway on high-levels of Adderall killing himself...post #8) decided to speak out and warn other families of what could happen to THEIR kid if they recklessly use said drug. ........... Does everyone know the dangers of Adderall? Of course not. She used her moment of despair as a springboard to try to warn others. How about that?Kudos. Hope she can find peace.
Sandi Zook, (the mother of the boy that drove eastbound on the westbound lane on a highway on high-levels of Adderall killing himself...post #8) decided to speak out and warn other families of what could happen to THEIR kid if they recklessly use said drug. ........... Does everyone know the dangers of Adderall? Of course not. She used her moment of despair as a springboard to try to warn others. How about that?Kudos. Hope she can find peace.
